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okay so ryzen it is then but is it worth it that i go for a ryzen 7 or should i stick with ryzen 5?

iam willing to drop the pure rock

1 minute ago, Seabosz said:

yeah i do more than only gaming so is the extra cost worth it?

i like to make stupid videos and fool around with programs

and i usualy have more than 5 chrome tabs open

 

1700 then bud.  It will be kicking a bit longer than a 1600 and it'll outlast the i5 by like 4 years

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1 hour ago, Damascus said:

IMHO I'd get a 1700, the stock cooler is great (rgb yolo)

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2 minutes ago, Seabosz said:

yeah i do more than only gaming so is the extra cost worth it?

i like to make stupid videos and fool around with programs

and i usualy have more than 5 chrome tabs open

 

I would get a R7 1700, the price difference is not that big, and it will last you a long time. 

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1 hour ago, RuLeZ said:

I would get a R7 1700, the price difference is not that big, and it will last you a long time. 

1 hour ago, Damascus said:

1700 then bud.  It will be kicking a bit longer than a 1600 and it'll outlast the i5 by like 4 years

And any thoughts on the ram or mobo?

are the MSI B350 TOMAHAWK and G.Skill DDR4 Trident Z RGB 2x8GB 3000 a good choice 
 

 

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Just now, Seabosz said:

And any thoughts on the ram or mobo?

are the MSI B350 TOMAHAWK and G.Skill DDR4 Trident Z RGB 2x8GB 3000 a good choice 
 

 

What is your exact budget?

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4 minutes ago, Seabosz said:

yeah i do more than only gaming so is the extra cost worth it?

i like to make stupid videos and fool around with programs

and i usualy have more than 5 chrome tabs open

 

Yes if you do not mind spending $100 on heavy workload ready cpu!

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1 hour ago, Damascus said:

What is your exact budget?

120 on mobo and 150 max on ram (euros)

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1 minute ago, Seabosz said:

120 on mobo and 150 max on ram (euros)

I would keep the mobo and change the ram to 3200mhz

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1 hour ago, RuLeZ said:

I would keep the mobo and change the ram to 3200mhz

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1 hour ago, Seabosz said:

okay so ryzen it is then but is it worth it that i go for a ryzen 7 or should i stick with ryzen 5?

iam willing to drop the pure rock

Get the 1600 and oc it :)

 

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12 hours ago, Seabosz said:

And any thoughts on the ram or mobo?

are the MSI B350 TOMAHAWK and G.Skill DDR4 Trident Z RGB 2x8GB 3000 a good choice 
 

 

They are good, because tomahawk boards are the first boards i see when someone is making AM4 system

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On ‎7‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 8:02 AM, Ordinarily_Greater said:

No it is noticeable that in gaming witcher 3 i5 core usage is 80% while ryzen 5 1600X is 50% isn't that right @RadiatingLight?

Sorry I couldn't answer right away, I was on a plane.

 

Anyway, the CPU usage drops when switching to Ryzen, and while that's a very good thing, there are some things to be aware of:

CPU usage, alone, doesn't mean anything other than that the CPU is not being pushed to it's limit (and therefore there is room to grow)

a CPU can bottleneck at 50% usage.

 

in this scenario:

On ‎7‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 8:04 AM, Damascus said:

xD I went from up to 80% usage playing games to around 35% 6700K to R7

the usage went down because the core and thread count doubled. however, if the game/program he was running could only use 4c/8t, the lower usage numbers mean nothing, since 4c/8t might be sitting at 100%, while the other 4c/8t might be idling, therefore giving you 50% usage, but bottlenecking.

 

the important part to look at is the trend in games and their core utilization, and the overall usage.

if an i5 uses 80% CPU in modern games, it shows that there isn't much room to grow before the CPU starts bottlenecking.

the 1600, on the other hand, has more raw power, and therefore is more futureproof - provided that game devs and programmers optimize games/programs for more than 4c/4t.

this is the big caveat. in a world where everything was built for 4c/4t, the R5 1600 would be at 33% usage, and be bottlenecking. but, the trend right now is towards more cores and parallelization, which is why the R5 1600 is the better buy by a long shot.

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On ‎7‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 8:25 AM, Seabosz said:

okay well thanks fo r helping me guys!

I'm too lazy to read through the whole thread, so sorry if I'm repeating something.

 

R5 1600 is best if you're not doing content creation, rendering, etc.

R7 1700 is best if you can fit it in your budget, and you are doing content creation, rendering, streaming, etc.

 

the 1700 is not better for gaming than the 1600, since games won't use more than 6 cores in the near future anyway.

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7 hours ago, RadiatingLight said:

the 1700 is not better for gaming than the 1600, since games won't use more than 6 cores in the near future anyway.

Well, maybe not.  Destiny 2 devs claim to use up to 16 cores - if other AAA games follow suite I'm a be extremely happy.

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