Storage, Server, Remote Processing PC+Media Center?

[wm89]

Hey gang, I am looking to build a different sort of machine. Anyone opinions on this one? 

 

I am an analyst and sometimes need to run analysis on moderate sized data sets.  Generally, the data sets top out at around 5GB and I do the analysis all in memory (I am not a good enough coder to do otherwise). My datasets are not big enough to warrant using something like Amazon, but most importantly I just want to build something cool and can serve many purposes.

 

I want to be able to tap into my home PC and run analysis through iPython and run automated tasks.  My work PC cannot handle Chrome when I get overzealous... So, this could help streamline some work flows; I can run iPython remotely and run tasks while at work. 

 

Additional goals:

Home network storage,

Home media center,

 

Price range: $4,000 USD, but if needed it can go up. 

 

Questions for the thread:

Ryzen or Intel?

-- My analysis are programmed for single threads most of the time (efficient parallel processing is a out of my skill set right now, but something I am looking to play with). Additionally, the types of analysis I run might actually have a lot of processing overhead if I build it out for parallel processing, but that is another conversation completely.

 

Ryzen has the cores, but Intel has the speed. There is also Xeon, but I honestly do not know enough about it; or, will a Xeon just be overkill for a system where I will be the sole user. 

 

Storage?

I am pretty clueless about this.  Ideally, I would like to have a fair bit of BULK storage space, these can be hard drives.  I am thinking somewhere in the realm of 30TB, but with the option of increasing if needed. However, I also would need some quick SSDs.  The idea: Use hard disks for archiving data that is not in use, then when a data set needs to be worked on: move it onto an SSD so it can be read faster.

Anyone ever done something like this? Are motherboards going to be a limiting factor?  Also, is it possible to have 2 different RAID arrays running at the same time. Something like RAID 0 for the SSDs, and RAID 5 for the bulk storage. 

Is this build even possible for the budget?

 

No need to spoon feed any answers, if anyone has seen a build with similar goals or another thread like it, please let me know.

 

Thanks!

[dude49]

Getting a raidcard was my frist thought, but then I remembered something. The mobo in this build as a Raid Controller, though I probably wouldn't use raid. (too much hassle and risk if you go for Speed rather than redundancy)
 

And yes, Intel has a higher clockspeed, but overclocking can solve that, especially since the perfomance gain of the 7700k over the 1800x is only about 20%, whereas the 1800x offers between 60-70% higher multicore Speed, which can still help boost your work (Jobs, Batches etc.). (http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X/3647vs3916). The 1800x overclocks very well so clockspeed is no issue and you get more bang for the buck.

 

 

Regarding the whole Home Network and Media Server aspect, I have my pc hooked up directly to my router, which connects it to all my devices via wifi and works well enough so that should also work without a hitch.

 

Since you don't seem to have gaming, or Video editing in mind for this build, I went with a 1070. 

 

The 30tb or storage shouldn't pose a Problem for this particular mobo btw and the HDDs themselves are pretty awesome. I have one myself and it runs quietly and quckly, even after many hours (I often leave my machine running for several days).

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($457.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 SE-AM4 140.2 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - CROSSHAIR VI HERO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($317.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($699.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Gold 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($254.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Gold 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($254.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Gold 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($254.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Gold 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($254.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Gold 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($254.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($373.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Series Primo Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case  ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($104.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $3983.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-06 13:55 EDT-0400

[paddy-stone]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kWvxKZ

 

Only just over half your budget. Can easily be overclocked to 4 Ghz and a bit beyond too, fantastic cooler etc. See what you think?

 

[edit] Whoops, only added 24TB storage, just add another drive the same for the 30TB capacity you want.

[wm89]

Both systems are really great. HUGE thank you both. This helps a ton.  I am likely going to go with the 1800X. I recently thought up a project that now requires the speed. I will update you guys are I get this build together! 

[paddy-stone]

56 minutes ago, wm89 said:

Both systems are really great. HUGE thank you both. This helps a ton.  I am likely going to go with the 1800X. I recently thought up a project that now requires the speed. I will update you guys are I get this build together! 

You can get the same speed out of the 1700, the 1800x is pretty much just a pre-oc'ed silicon is all and is a lot more expensive. All they have done at the factory is tested (binned) the chips, but many people have been able to get the same OC on the 1700 as the 1800x. It's up to you obviously, it's your money, but unless you want to try a massive OC on it, don't bother with the 1800x, the 1700 I personally have got mine up to 4Ghz on all cores, I just don't have the adequate cooling to use that 24/7 is all, so for 24/7 usage I have it at 3.7/3.8Ghz.

IIRC the only difference the binning makes is that the ones binned for 1800x might be able to achieve the same OC with a little less voltage required maybe... I could be wrong though.

Basically if going to 4/4.1Ghz and have adequate cooling, you might as well use a 1700 for less money, if you want to push it to extreme OC then go with the 1800x.