First NAS build, need some advice.

[Tando991]

Hey, I'm going to finally be building my first NAS in the next couple months, I have a list of components but not 100% on them as I've never built a NAS before just looking to get some advice on them. 

 

I am not looking at doing any transcoding or anything just a storage box to keep all my files on. 

I do plan on having 5 drives, eventually.

 

CPU: Intel i3 6100

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H

RAM: Crucial 8GB 1600

PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold

HDD: WD Red and/or Seagate IronWolf 

Case: Node 804 or Arc Mini R2

 

NAS Build (PcPartPicker)

 

Thanks 

[fjdhdhcyfhf]

just for files you can go lower than i3. look at what the consumer/retail NAS use. They use intel atom and celeron CPUs. Last year you could buy m-ITX boards with built in celeron 6W CPUs that did the job. They are getting rarer; I have not seen any being sold in NZ this year.

you def dont need 8GB of RAM for a home NAS. Im using Debian on my NAS and I could prob do it with 512mb if modern RAM could go that low.

If you want to use ZFS then hardware requirements increase with feature you want to use. But it is just cheaper to just use one drive with debian or ubuntu server.

Only get a NAS drive if you need redundant drives. You do not need redundant drives for a home NAS, you still need a offline backup so that is where that money should go. If you are not using enterprise hardware with redundant parts in a situation that requires 100% uptime then you are wasting your money buying surplus drives that should be used as a backup.

 

I like the Node cases.

[Tando991]

14 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

just for files you can go lower than i3. look at what the consumer/retail NAS use. They use intel atom and celeron CPUs. Last year you could buy m-ITX boards with built in celeron 6W CPUs that did the job. They are getting rarer; I have not seen any being sold in NZ this year.

you def dont need 8GB of RAM for a home NAS. Im using Debian on my NAS and I could prob do it with 512mb if modern RAM could go that low.

If you want to use ZFS then hardware requirements increase with feature you want to use. But it is just cheaper to just use one drive with debian or ubuntu server.

Only get a NAS drive if you need redundant drives. You do not need redundant drives for a home NAS, you still need a offline backup so that is where that money should go. If you are not using enterprise hardware with redundant parts in a situation that requires 100% uptime then you are wasting your money buying surplus drives that should be used as a backup.

I really wasn't sure about the RAM, I read about the 1GB RAM per 1TB memory which I believe is really only for ZFS? I am planning on having 26/28TB.

I have no plans or really any need to do any kind of RAID setup, for my situation RAID would just be a waste of money, I just plan on a JBOD system.

Anything about the PSU? no idea what to look for there, I do plan on having it on most of the time but not 100%, 24hrs/6days or something.

14 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

I like the Node cases.

Yeah I'm leaning more towards the Node over the Arc Mini as I've built with it before and liked it, also would probably fit better in my room.

[fjdhdhcyfhf]

4 minutes ago, Tando991 said:

I really wasn't sure about the RAM, I read about the 1GB RAM per 1TB memory which I believe is really only for ZFS? I am planning on having 26/28TB.

if you want the full features of ZFS. the full features accommodate databases and commercial/enterprise setups that do a shit ton of storage and a shit ton of clients. You are asking for a shit ton of storage. ZFS aint gona be cheap for those TBs. linux mdadm software raid will be cheaper but not as feature full. BTRFS is bringing out RAID5/6 but it only just been released in the unstable 4.12 kernel which is not in any distro at this point in time. I dont know if you want to spend that much money on that much TB without decent error correction, in which case you want some good shit enterprise hardware.

5 minutes ago, Tando991 said:

I have no plans or really any need to do any kind of RAID setup, for my situation RAID would just be a waste of money, I just plan on a JBOD system.

For 26TB that is a lot of drives and will need error correction. Error correction is only possible with redundant drives.

how many disks is that? you could do 2X 4X 8TB arrays = 32TB = 8 drives. I think right now the cheapest drives are 4TB which means 2X6X4TB arrays = 12 drives. you can do the math on the redundancy requirements for that. it is going to be at least X2 which means you need either 8 or 12 drives ports which means you need an enterprise storage hardware. Dont do RAID5 at this level, it takes too long to rebuild an array. On my computer it takes three house to rebuild an array with 2 TB drives.

7 minutes ago, Tando991 said:

Anything about the PSU? no idea what to look for there, I do plan on having it on most of the time but not 100%, 24hrs/6days or something.

There is a PSU list somewhere on this forum, you can look it up but as above for your storage requirements you should be looking at server hardware.

 

I do not want to know why a home NAS needs 26 TB of storage.