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[yodaobiwan1]

Hey,

 

I recently found this prebuild on amazon that probably sells for less than I could build it for. How reputable is this company (cybertronpc)? Is the build altogether solid? I know it comes w/o a wifi card, is there anything else I need to know about these custom-pc build companies?

 

P.S. This is my first time buying a gaming pc, so sorry for the lack of technological know-how.

 

PC:https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXi10100A-Desktop-i5-7600-7200RPM/dp/B01N9IQ82G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495764234&sr=8-1&keywords=cyberpowerpc+nvidia+1060+6gb+desktop+i5

 

EDIT:

 

Thanks for all the comments. I didn't expect all these replies so quickly. Some things I wanted to say-

 

I would greatly prefer a pre-build as I am not a particularly tech-savvy person (I know building a pc is not spectacularly difficult, but I'd rather not take a risk)

 

I also prefer Intel and Nvidia over AMD, I just feel like their reliability and brand are much better. I don't like that AMD outsources it's manufacturing.

[PCGuy_5960]

5 minutes ago, yodaobiwan1 said:

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Why not build it yourself?

[tom_w141]

@yodaobiwan1

 

Same PC $150 less

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($205.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Biostar - B250GT5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($54.77 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card  ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.98 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full 32/64-bit  ($30.00 @ Kinguin)
Total: $713.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-26 08:59 EDT-0400

[MercuryRain]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TRNdPs

 

Same system, $100 less.

 

Don't get the OS but you can get those keys for $30.

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Same PC $150 less

Why build the same PC tho? A Ryzen 5 1600 is way better than the 7600 and the RX 580 is cheaper than the 1060 and (usually) performs better...

[tom_w141]

5 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Why build the same PC tho? A Ryzen 5 1600 is way better than the 7600 and the RX 580 is cheaper than the 1060 and (usually) performs better...

I was making a point while I created this  :

 

@yodaobiwan1

 

Best PC for the price of that one:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($217.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($126.59 @ OutletPC)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($57.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: *MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card  ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full 32/64-bit  ($30.00 @ Kinguin)
Total: $882.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-26 09:03 EDT-0400

 

EDIT: Note i'm as surprised as you are, the GPU is selected by a parametric filter I always use for these builds so 1060s must have had a price drop/on sale.

 

EDIT 2: OP reasons why this is better:

 

- Building yourself is great fun, an achievement and you learn about how things work

- You are getting a lot more for your money

- An SSD for super quick boot times in windows and a large 1TB HDD to dump all your games and files on.

- An unlocked Ryzen 5 6 core/12 thread CPU, this will beat the locked 7600 from the prebuild and its 6 cores will see you well ahead into the future, whereas 4 core/4 thread i5s are near end of life.

- Faster RAM and more attractive RAM for a nice performance boost.

[MVPernula]

Better PC, less money.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mybbzM

Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mybbzM/by_merchant/

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($217.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($78.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($54.77 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($107.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.98 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full 32/64-bit  ($30.00)

Total: $870.71

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-26 09:04 EDT-0400

[genexis_x]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($217.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($78.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill - GRAM ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.49 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.90 @ Jet) 
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer  ($15.89 @ OutletPC) 
Keyboard: Genius - Scorpion K5 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($22.63 @ Jet) 
Mouse: Thermaltake - TALON Wired Optical Mouse  ($18.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $874.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-26 09:04 EDT-0400

Same PC specs but with Ryzen 5 CPU and GTX 1070
If added cost for Windows from Kinguin only slightly expensive than it

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

I was making a point while I created this  :

 

@yodaobiwan1

 

Best PC for the price of that one:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($217.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($126.59 @ OutletPC)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($57.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: *MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card  ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full 32/64-bit  ($30.00 @ Kinguin)
Total: $882.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-26 09:03 EDT-0400

 

EDIT: Note i'm as surprised as you are, the GPU is selected by a parametric filter I always use for these builds so 1060s must have had a price drop/on sale.

I'd get pc mate instead, pro4 is only 4 phases, plus pc mate is about the same price.

[tom_w141]

3 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($217.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($78.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill - GRAM ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.49 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.90 @ Jet) 
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer  ($15.89 @ OutletPC) 
Keyboard: Genius - Scorpion K5 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($22.63 @ Jet) 
Mouse: Thermaltake - TALON Wired Optical Mouse  ($18.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $874.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-26 09:04 EDT-0400

Same PC specs but with Ryzen 5 CPU and GTX 1070
If added cost for Windows from Kinguin only slightly expensive than it

People should look more before posting very similar clone builds  that's nice but a few things to point out are:

 

- No OS

- No SSD

- Mini 1070 so not true 1070 performance.

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

I'd get pc mate instead, pro4 is only 4 phases, plus pc mate is about the same price.

TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if the AsRock board has better memory support than the MSI board  AsRock's BIOS is way better than MSI's (for Ryzen)

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

I'd get pc mate instead, pro4 is only 4 phases, plus pc mate is about the same price.

With MSI's BIOS issues in AM4 and having the longest post times reported I'm not advising anyone to touch an msi board right now.

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Mini 1070 so not true 1070 performance.

Actually, it performs just like a 1070, but it will make more noise because the fans have to spin faster to keep it cool

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if the AsRock board has better memory support than the MSI board  AsRock's BIOS is way better than MSI's (for Ryzen)

When you're chatting and making builds then you notice your lunch finished 15 mins ago and both your screens are fullscreen with things that are definitely not work  *shuffles away*

[MercuryRain]

https://choosemypc.net/build/?budget=900&oc=false&options=

 

 

-SSD

-No OS ($30 on Kinguin or Reddit)

-Skylake instead of Kaby Lake (RIP 4K Netflix)

-1070 instead of 1060

 

EDIT: Choosemypc.net doesn't seem to have been updated with Kaby Lake or Ryzen, though.  Every budget level I give it it gives me a Skylake CPU.

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

With MSI's BIOS issues in AM4 and having the longest post times reported I'm not advising anyone to touch an msi board right now.

Yeah, if I recall correctly, reviewers with MSI boards got the worst performance results for Ryzen

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Actually, it performs just like a 1070, but it will make more noise because the fans have to spin faster to keep it cool

By not true I meant more likely to thermal throttle and therefore underperform

[tom_w141]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Yeah, if I recall correctly, reviewers with MSI boards got the worst performance results for Ryzen

Yep that's why I don't spec them. The AsRockPro4 is a solid entry level board.

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

By not true I meant more likely to thermal throttle

Thermal adjust is the correct term  And it can be fixed with a more aggressive fan curve and by increasing the max temperature

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Thermal adjust is the correct term  And it can be fixed with a more aggressive fan curve and by increasing the max temperature

Yes but as it is never a positive adjust, i.e. it can only get worse, throttling is a more accurate term imo  

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Yes but as it is never a positive adjust, i.e. it can only get worse, throttling is a more accurate term imo  

Thermal throttling means that it runs below its base clock  If it boosts higher, it's not thermal throttling, it's thermal adjusting. BTW, 1070s are extremely efficient so I doubt that the card will perform worse than an FE card.

[DocSwag]

9 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if the AsRock board has better memory support than the MSI board  AsRock's BIOS is way better than MSI's (for Ryzen)

With the agesa thing coming soon, I doubt it matters much  

 

Why exactly is the bios better?

9 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

With MSI's BIOS issues in AM4 and having the longest post times reported I'm not advising anyone to touch an msi board right now.

Really, source?

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Why exactly is the bios better?

AsRock boards usually get higher memory OCs with Ryzen, which does indicate that the BIOS is better

[DocSwag]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

AsRock boards usually get higher memory OCs with Ryzen, which does indicate that the BIOS is better

Not sure if that will matter that much soon though, with the AGESA update coming soon  

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

With the agesa thing coming soon, I doubt it matters much  

 

Why exactly is the bios better?

Really, source?

@PCGuy_5960 would you mind please? I'm very limited on sites I can access