Ryzen vs intel, second pc build

[ImNotThere]

Looking to build a new pc, not high end by any means, wanna overclock a lil, currently using an i3 4170 paired with a 750ti

Ive been looking at 7600k i5 but arguments for the 1400 r5 are making me think of going ryzen, looking to pair with an rx580/570 but open to suggestions, pretty certain 8 gb of ram would be enough but could always upgrade to 16 later, other parts would be standardof course, got my keyboard mouse and monitor so not included in the price, not a tight budget but just under 1000$ would be appreciated, thank you if you can help

[yathis]

do not buy 1400, spend the extra peso's on 1500 or go intel

[ImNotThere]

Just now, yathis said:

do not buy 1400, spend the extra peso's on 1500 or go intel

From what i hear ( i only intend on gaming) i shouldn't need the extra l3 cache from the 1500 but in thatcase should i just go 1500x? 

[yathis]

Just spend the extra peso's and drop the 1400 hard on you have

Its like what $20 I lose that in coin every month into the couch.

[Herman Mcpootis]

tbh haswell is still great for gaming. just get an i7 47xx/57xx or e3 123x v3 and a better gpu, no need to go for ryzen or kabylake.

[Herman Mcpootis]

what's your current specs?

[ImNotThere]

3 minutes ago, yathis said:

Just spend the extra peso's and drop the 1400 hard on you have

Its like what $20 I lose that in coin every month into the couch.

So is that a defo no to the 7600k? 

[ImNotThere]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

what's your current specs?

I3 4170 and 750ti

[iRileyx]

Not sure if you need storage or not, but included anyway

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3wy7BP 1600 + 580 for $909 with rebates, doesn't include OS but you can get for 20-30

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8bTR8K Or a 1600 + 1070 for $1050, knock it down to 8gbs ram and it'd be 1k, could go for a cheaper case to get it under.

[ImNotThere]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

tbh haswell is still great for gaming. just get an i7 47xx/57xx or e3 123x v3 and a better gpu, no need to go for ryzen or kabylake.

That sounds cool tbf, how do the older xeons perform in modern titles?

[genexis_x]

10 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

Ive been looking at 7600k i5 but arguments for the 1400 r5 are making me think of going ryzen, looking to pair with an rx580/570 but open to suggestions,

1080p/1440p gaming ONLY - 6600K/7600K

Otherwise, Ryzen 5 1400/1600

[genexis_x]

1 minute ago, ImNotThere said:

That sounds cool tbf, how do the older xeons perform in modern titles?

Just like how a locked Haswell i7 performs

[tom_w141]

3 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

So is that a defo no to the 7600k? 

The 1400 and 7600k should not even be compared as they are no where near the same price. the 7600k it $240 whereas the 6 core 12 thread 1600 is $219 (+another $20 saving as it comes with a decent stock cooler).  This absolutely slays the 7600k at below the 7600ks price point.

[tom_w141]

6 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

1080p high refresh rate >120 Hz gaming ONLY (no background tasks, workstation/productivity programs, or streaming) - 6700K/7700K

 

I have edited the above to be more truthful, the honest truth is no one should be buying an i5 in 2017 as they are fully saturated with only 4 threads, on an aging platform with absolutely no future. New builds you should either go R5, R7 or i7. 4 threads is already close to not enough (i5s are pegged at 95-100% usage in modern titles already and therefore have no where to go in future titles). When you factor in the price difference between the i7 and R5 the way to go and remain on budget in 2017 is the R5 1600.

[Ordinarily_Greater]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

 

I have edited the above to be more truthful, the honest truth is no one should be buying an i5 in 2017 as they are fully saturated with only 4 threads, on an aging platform with absolutely no future. New builds you should either go R5, R7 or i7. 4 threads is already close to not enough (i5s are pegged at 95-100% usage in modern titles already and therefore have no where to go in future titles). When you factor in the price difference between the i7 and R5 the way to go and remain on budget in 2017 is the R5 1600.

Can i unleash your weapon or you first?

[tom_w141]

9 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Can i unleash your weapon or you first?

Do you mean build guides?

 

I don't post builds if there are already good ones in the thread as it clogs it up and they appear repetitive.

 

@RKRiley has a good one above so I wasn't going to post one this time  

 

EDIT: Although upon further inspection I wouldn't trust that motherboard as far as I could throw it... Cheap and MSI (MSI having slow POSTs with their AM4 BIOS) so I'd go for a different mobo that's all.

[Ordinarily_Greater]

6 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Do you mean build guides?

 

I don't post builds if there are already good ones in the thread as it clogs it up and they appear repetitive.

 

@RKRiley has a good one above so I wasn't going to post one this time  

Why i can't PM you? I just wanted to ask something recently

[genexis_x]

11 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

I have edited the above to be more truthful, the honest truth is no one should be buying an i5 in 2017 as they are fully saturated with only 4 threads, on an aging platform with absolutely no future. New builds you should either go R5, R7 or i7. 4 threads is already close to not enough (i5s are pegged at 95-100% usage in modern titles already and therefore have no where to go in future titles). When you factor in the price difference between the i7 and R5 the way to go and remain on budget in 2017 is the R5 1600.

Agree.

[tom_w141]

12 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Can i unleash your weapon or you first?

No idea I didn't touch anything in my profile  

 

FFS wrong quote but you know what i'm replying to

[Herman Mcpootis]

22 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

I3 4170 and 750ti

the rest of the specs? i already know those, what's your ram, storage, case, etc?

[ImNotThere]

31 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

Not sure if you need storage or not, but included anyway

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3wy7BP

 

$909 with rebates, doesn't include OS but you can get for 20-30

Gonna go with the first one of these, thanks for the advice guys!

[ImNotThere]

9 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

the rest of the specs? i already know those, what's your ram, storage, case, etc?

8gb ram, 1tb old ass hdd and some no name case that cost me 50 bucks, 500w psu and intel stock cooler

[Herman Mcpootis]

8 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

8gb ram, 1tb old ass hdd and some no name case that cost me 50 bucks, 500w psu and intel stock cooler

which case and psu?

[ImNotThere]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

which case and psu?

Its got poseiden in the name, not sure what model as i dont have the box and i peeled the sticker off the psu for aesthetics i know its 80+ bronze however 

[Herman Mcpootis]

i'd resue the rest of the build you have now, got you a 1440p monitor for better picture quality.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($239.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 3 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: MyDigitalSSD - BP5e Slim 7 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($92.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card  ($363.56 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Other: Acer G247HYU smidp 23.8-inch IPS WQHD (2560 x 1440) Display (Display Port, HDMI Port & DVI Port)  ($215.88 @ Amazon) 
Total: $992.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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