A "do it all PC" need some advice

[PhantomCards]

So for a while now i have been saving up for a pc. I have a pretty sturdy parts list and I would like your guys's opinions on it. I live in the US and my original budget was $2500, my build is around $2200 so far which I do enjoy having some breathing room. Im wanting to be able to develop my own games with this rig which I know requires some decent hardware. At the same time I want this to replace my need for a consol, so i built it to be able to handle video games also. Even so after that I really enjoy streaming off my consol so i would like to continue doing that,  but on my PC. I dont have many veiwers ATM but I enjoy it so much. I dont need a mouse or a keyboard, however I do need a monitor. I dont want a 4K monitor, i was thinking more of a 1440p but I cant find the right one for a good price. I wanted to put my spending limit on a monitor at $500 if possible but i would really prefer $400. Ive looked for hours at monitors and I dont think i understand what monitors are good while streaming. I was looking on amazon mostly since i have a $100 gift card wasting away.  Heres my current parts list,  right now im just waiting till im %100 certain before pulling the trigger:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/PhantomCards/saved/bxwf7P

 

Thank you guys in advance and I will reply asap.

 

P.S im not really 100% certain on the case I picked but it seemed really nice as I didn't think it necessary to spend more than $100 on a case. Although I discovered the Deepcool Genome II today and it seemed....promising?

 

Edit: super awesome guys, I didn't expect people to be so fast. I did forget to mention that i would like 2 or 3 monitors (not all now). A kep pattern im seeing so far is I definitely should go with the 1700X. also It seems like I need to check out a couple other Mobo's and see which will be the best for its price. I definitely can lower my PSU to 650W with confidence now. I think depending on how my price fluctuates will depend on my monitor choice.

Edited April 30, 2017 by PhantomCards

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, huilun02 said:

and get a free stock cooler as well)

which is damn freaking useful if you're getting an aftermarket cooler, i know, i have a stack of intel coolers that are useful in a lot of places

[Technomancer__]

nice build

try and get the 850 pro its not that more expensive and it will last longer

for a hd i whould have gotten a toshiba p300 3tb which is also not so much more

for psu the Seasonic Prime 650 W Titanium 

and i would also get the zotac amp extreme variant of the card.i have the 1070 and it has the best cooling ive ever seen in a video card

and get the 1700x and oc it to match 1800x performance and save some money for the other shit

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, Ethocreeper said:

 

for psu the Seasonic Prime 650 W Titanium 

i have one of those, it is such incredible amounts of overkill for the price they go at

 

EDIT: words.. they are difficult after a 14 hour work day  but you get the point i think..

[SeanAngelo]

13 minutes ago, PhantomCards said:

So for a while now i have been saving up for a pc. I have a pretty sturdy parts list and I would like your guys's opinions on it. I live in the US and my original budget was $2500, my build is around $2200 so far which I do enjoy having some breathing room. Im wanting to be able to develop my own games with this rig which I know requires some decent hardware. At the same time I want this to replace my need for a consol, so i built it to be able to handle video games also. Even so after that I really enjoy streaming of my consol so i would like to continue doing that,  but on my PC. I dont have many veiwers ATM but I enjoy it so much. I dont need a mouse or a keyboard, however I do need a monitor. I dont want a 4K monitor, i was thinking more of a 1440p but I cant find the right one for a good price. I wanted to put my spending limit on a monitor at $500 if possible but i would really prefer $400. Ive looked for hours at monitors and I dont think i understand what monitors are good while streaming. I was looking on amazon mostly since i have a $100 gift card wasting away.  Heres my current parts list,  right now im just waiting till im %100 certain before pulling the trigger:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/PhantomCards/saved/bxwf7P

 

Thank you guys in advance and I will reply asap.

 

P.S im not really 100% certain on the case I picked but it seemed really nice as I didn't think it necessary to spend more than $100 on a case. Although I discovered the Deepcool Genome II today and it seemed....promising?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($378.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($65.95 @ Amazon) 
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste  ($5.49) 
Motherboard: MSI X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($138.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($136.99 @ Best Buy) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  ($699.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.49 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($745.50 @ Amazon) 
Other: Rosewill RTK-045 45 Piece Computer Tool Kit  ($22.99 @ Newegg) 
Other: Insignia™ - SSD Mount - Black  ($9.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $2543.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-30 07:52 EDT-0400

 

2 minutes ago, Ethocreeper said:

nice build

try and get the 850 pro its not that more expensive and it will last longer

for a hd i whould have gotten a toshiba p300 3tb which is also not so much more

for psu the Seasonic Prime 650 W Titanium 

and i would also get the zotac amp extreme variant of the card.i have the 1070 and it has the best cooling ive ever seen in a video card

and get the 1700x and oc it to match 1800x performance and save some money for the other shit

the 850 pro isn't needed... he's not gonna be writing gigabytes of data each day...

[PhantomCards]

5 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

1700X instead of 1800X (you can OC to compensate, and get a free stock cooler as well)

Cheaper mobo?

Higher capacity SSD

You don't need an 850W PSU for a single 1080Ti, unless you're set on going SLI

Is it worth it at all to OC the 1800x? Ive heard about using the 1700x instead just i havent found benchmarks for an OC 1800x yet. 

Im super paranoid about a cheaper mobo, i knownit may seem weird but in my mind if im going to have all this nice stuff I want it going in something ive seen work but if you know a good one let me know.

SSD upgrade will happen

 

Do you think a 650 PSU will be fine?

[PhantomCards]

9 minutes ago, Ethocreeper said:

nice build

try and get the 850 pro its not that more expensive and it will last longer

for a hd i whould have gotten a toshiba p300 3tb which is also not so much more

for psu the Seasonic Prime 650 W Titanium 

and i would also get the zotac amp extreme variant of the card.i have the 1070 and it has the best cooling ive ever seen in a video card

and get the 1700x and oc it to match 1800x performance and save some money for the other shit

I assume the Pro version of the SSD writes faster than the stanard?

Ill check into the HD, to be honest I just know WD is popular due to the price and use.

im getting my PSU from  best buy so I am a little limited but not much, ill see if they have a Seasonic but I do trust corsair.

only reason I went with the Asus Strix is because....I love Asus  and i like my Mobo matching my GPU.

I think im definitely getting a 1700x, I just want to look at benchmarks of an OC 1800X first.

[Herman Mcpootis]

7 minutes ago, PhantomCards said:

Is it worth it at all to OC the 1800x? Ive heard about using the 1700x instead just i havent found benchmarks for an OC 1800x yet. 

Im super paranoid about a cheaper mobo, i knownit may seem weird but in my mind if im going to have all this nice stuff I want it going in something ive seen work but if you know a good one let me know.

SSD upgrade will happen

 

Do you think a 650 PSU will be fine?

if you're not doing SLI 650w is fine, if you are a 750w psu will be better.

[PhantomCards]

12 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i have one of those, it is such incredible amounts of overkill for the price they go at

 

EDIT: words.. they are difficult after a 14 hour work day  but you get the point i think..

definitely do, im going to bed soon and ill be doing my 12 hour work day after I wake up lol.

[Technomancer__]

10 minutes ago, SeanAngelo said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($378.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($65.95 @ Amazon) 
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste  ($5.49) 
Motherboard: MSI X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($138.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($136.99 @ Best Buy) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  ($699.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.49 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($745.50 @ Amazon) 
Other: Rosewill RTK-045 45 Piece Computer Tool Kit  ($22.99 @ Newegg) 
Other: Insignia™ - SSD Mount - Black  ($9.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $2543.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-30 07:52 EDT-0400

 

the 850 pro isn't needed... he's not gonna be writing gigabytes of data each day...

i find it 10 euros cheaper so its not worth the evo

[manikyath]

10 minutes ago, PhantomCards said:

m super paranoid about a cheaper mobo, i knownit may seem weird but in my mind if im going to have all this nice stuff I want it going in something ive seen work but if you know a good one let me know.

i've been scrolling trough motherboards for the past 10 minutes.. and boy do they all suck and blow at the same time...

 

as much as i dont like recommending a mobo with a price starting with "2", it seems like that's gonna be what it takes to not have completely moronic rear IO...

[PhantomCards]

13 minutes ago, SeanAngelo said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($378.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($65.95 @ Amazon) 
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste  ($5.49) 
Motherboard: MSI X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($138.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($136.99 @ Best Buy) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  ($699.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.49 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($745.50 @ Amazon) 
Other: Rosewill RTK-045 45 Piece Computer Tool Kit  ($22.99 @ Newegg) 
Other: Insignia™ - SSD Mount - Black  ($9.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $2543.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-30 07:52 EDT-0400

 

the 850 pro isn't needed... he's not gonna be writing gigabytes of data each day...

like everyone and there mother has told me, go with the 1700X XD. 

Ill research the Motherboard and see how it works as for some reason Motherboards make me paranoid a bit.

I like how you fit a monitor into that! im going to have to adjust where I buy things from so that I can properly make changes.

Ive seen good things about the Noctua, but would you say water cooling is worth the extra price? i rather help my CPU more and extend its life, especially if im going to OC it.

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($316.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Corsair) 
Motherboard: ASRock X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($138.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: MyDigitalSSD BP5e Slim 7 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($92.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Mainstream 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Best Buy) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G  Video Card  ($684.66 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($113.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: Acer Predator XB241YU 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($499.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Acer Predator XB241YU 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($499.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2677.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-30 08:23 EDT-0400

 

[PhantomCards]

7 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

if you're not doing SLI 650w is fine, if you are a 750w psu will be better.

no SLI, so that sounds awesome

[PhantomCards]

8 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Its worth overclocking whatever Ryzen CPU you get, because why not

Kyle (Bitwit on Youtube) tried overclocking on an X370 and B350 motherboard and got the same results.

Yes he used an R5 but its got the same TDP as the R7's. Not that I'm suggesting B350 but I don't think a $255 mobo is necessary.

From what I can tell Ryzen is hitting its own OC limit even before the mobo comes into play.

Yes 650W is fine if you only use one graphics card.

what Mobo would you suggest?

[Technomancer__]

Just now, PhantomCards said:

what Mobo would you suggest?

asus prime b350

[PhantomCards]

6 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i've been scrolling trough motherboards for the past 10 minutes.. and boy do they all suck and blow at the same time...

 

as much as i dont like recommending a mobo with a price starting with "2", it seems like that's gonna be what it takes to not have completely moronic rear IO...

TBH a "2" wont bother me. I worked 8 months of overtime and reduced my credit debt from $2000 to $500. So i save up and got some great options for parts. its a "treat yo self" moment kinda

[PhantomCards]

8 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($316.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Corsair) 
Motherboard: ASRock X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($138.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: MyDigitalSSD BP5e Slim 7 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($92.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Mainstream 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Best Buy) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G  Video Card  ($684.66 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($113.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: Acer Predator X34 34.0" 3440x1440 100Hz Monitor  ($1020.38 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2697.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-30 08:07 EDT-0400

 

if you don't care about ultrawide or it's too expensive you can get these instead:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7HFXsY/acer-predator-xb241yu-238-2560x1440-165hz-monitor-xb241yu-bmiprz

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/scM323/aoc-ag271qg-270-165hz-monitor-ag271qg

Although that monitor is beautiful, I would like to have a multi monitor set up (2 or 3) so I think it is a bit much. I forgot to mention that...so sorry. The acer predator....that looks super familiar for some reason. 

[Technomancer__]

2 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

This X370 from the same brand that is $100 cheaper

And you still have X370 exclusive features

it is not cheaper but its worth it

[PhantomCards]

4 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

This X370 from the same brand that is $100 cheaper

And you still have X370 exclusive features

awesome, I will research that asap and see how I can move things around

[manikyath]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qcyYzM

 

so.. quick run trough what i've put together here:

- 1700x, even without the whole OCing thing, the price difference is so many much NOT worth the 200MHz out the box

- i'm an air cooler person, do what you wish with the cooler as long as you make sure to buy one *with* an AM4 bracket.

- as before stated, appareantly the IO on most AM4 mobo's is terrible, kept this one as is because despite the insane price tag it at least has plenty of USB ports...

- kept the ram, i'm happy with what i'm seeing.

- swapped out the SSD for a sandisk ultra II, because it's cheap and mine has lasted me well past the 2 year mark already with zero complaints.

- swapped out the hard drive for a 3TB toshiba, once again personal preference, do with this one as you will.

- kept the GPU, may suggest dropping that to a GTX1080, but if you want a 1080Ti, keep it that way

- fractal design R5 is once again a preference thing, i like recommending it to new builders because of how easy it is to work in.

- dropped the power supply to an RM750x, which is still enough overkill to run fanless at least most of the time

- dropped in a benQ 1440p monitor, i have two of them, and they've been serving me well enough, and the cheapy feel is easily compensated by having a propper monitor stand.

 

as for you mentioning streaming your console, you'll need a capture card for that. i cant really give you a recommendation there because all the cheap stuff is problematic, and all the good stuff is expensive AF

2 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

This X370 from the same brand that is $100 cheaper

And you still have X370 exclusive features

and you lose your USB 2.0 ports... i really dont understand what has gotten into manufacturer's minds..

 

WHAT THE FLIP DID MSI EVEN THINK HERE:

 

it's like their usually very well decked out krait became some acid trip gone wrong designer nightmare.

[Herman Mcpootis]

7 minutes ago, PhantomCards said:

Although that monitor is beautiful, I would like to have a multi monitor set up (2 or 3) so I think it is a bit much. I forgot to mention that...so sorry. The acer predator....that looks super familiar for some reason. 

ok, i'll change the build with 2 of the acers instead

[MedoKn]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CJR7qk

am4 bracket: https://www.nzxt.com/am4-bracket

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, MedoKn said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CJR7qk

 

remind me why you put trident Z memory in there?

[MedoKn]

Just now, manikyath said:

remind me why you put trident Z memory in there?

why