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I currently have a 6700k and it does the job, I am wondering if there would be a performance boost if I upgrade to a 1700x.

 

I mostly encode video and occasionally record games. 

 

Thanks ;p

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big call. It's still a great chip. Ryzen seems good if your doing a lot of work with encoding and stuff....I don't think it'd be a peformance increase- just pretty similar performance unless your doing shitloads of encoding!

 

Why do you need the upgrade? I'm moving from an i5 to an i7....I think that is an upgrade! I

 

If you have the money have a crack! If you don't then I don't think it would matter much.....

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Polarwindz said:

I currently have a 6700k and it does the job, I am wondering if there would be a performance boost if I upgrade to a 1700x.

 

I mostly encode video and occasionally record games. 

 

Thanks ;p

 

It comes down to cost benefit, will the improved encode times and better game recording get you back the amount you spent on the CPU. If you get paid for either of those things I would lean towards yes else probably no unless money is no issue. 

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12 minutes ago, rogueone said:

big call. It's still a great chip. Ryzen seems good if your doing a lot of work with encoding and stuff....I don't think it'd be a peformance increase- just pretty similar performance unless your doing shitloads of encoding!

 

Why do you need the upgrade? I'm moving from an i5 to an i7....I think that is an upgrade! I

 

If you have the money have a crack! If you don't then I don't think it would matter much.....

 

 

I do encode quite a bit and price doesn't matter :P

 

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3 minutes ago, DrMikeNZ said:

What encoding do you do? Ryzen has halved AVX2 performance compared to Intel, and this is used heavily in x265 encoding.

X265 10bit :) With filters 

Sometimes 4k movs

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4 hours ago, DrMikeNZ said:

Going from an i7 6700K to Ryzen would likely be a sideways or backwards step.

Wouldn't more cores be better? Yeah less cores with a higher clock speed is the ideal thing? 

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7 hours ago, DrMikeNZ said:

Going from an i7 6700K to Ryzen would likely be a sideways or backwards step.

Not if he's encoding / doing workstation stuff. Ryzen blows Intel's i7s out of the water for workstation tasks. (price:ratio)

 

For gaming, then it could be a backwards step, but not by much.

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5 hours ago, MakeAMDGreatAgain said:

Not if he's encoding / doing workstation stuff. Ryzen blows Intel's i7s out of the water for workstation tasks. (price:ratio)

 

For gaming, then it could be a backwards step, but not by much.

For x265 encoding, which relies heavily on AVX2, Ryzen has terrible performance in my experience. My i7 6900K system has better performance/dollar than my Ryzen R7 1700 system. There are a lot of workstation tasks where Ryzen is not well suited for due to how it was designed to handle AVX2.

For x264 encoding, Ryzen appears to be good value.

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3 minutes ago, DrMikeNZ said:

For x265 encoding, which relies heavily on AVX2, Ryzen has terrible performance in my experience. My i7 6900K system has better performance/dollar than my Ryzen R7 1700 system. There are a lot of workstation tasks where Ryzen is not well suited for due to how it was designed to handle AVX2.

For x264 encoding, Ryzen appears to be good value.

actually because it has 2x the cores it is very simalar speed to a 5960x. 

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4 minutes ago, DrMikeNZ said:

Ryzen 1700 is 8C16T. i7 6900K is 8C16T.

8/8 = 2? I lost you on the maths there.

i mean than the 6700k, i may have quoted the wrong thing

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34 minutes ago, DrMikeNZ said:

For x265 encoding, which relies heavily on AVX2, Ryzen has terrible performance in my experience. My i7 6900K system has better performance/dollar than my Ryzen R7 1700 system. There are a lot of workstation tasks where Ryzen is not well suited for due to how it was designed to handle AVX2.

For x264 encoding, Ryzen appears to be good value.

Your i7 6900k is more than double the price of the Ryzen 7 1700.

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32 minutes ago, MakeAMDGreatAgain said:

Your i7 6900k is more than double the price of the Ryzen 7 1700.

Yep, I do not suggest that the OP should get the 6900K, just that the Ryzen would not be much of an upgrade for the intended workload.

A 6700K is obviously slower than the 6900K for encoding as well, but 4 fast cores are better than 8 slow cores that have Ryzen's halved AVX2 performance.

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57 minutes ago, DrMikeNZ said:

Yep, I do not suggest that the OP should get the 6900K, just that the Ryzen would not be much of an upgrade for the intended workload.

A 6700K is obviously slower than the 6900K for encoding as well, but 4 fast cores are better than 8 slow cores that have Ryzen's halved AVX2 performance.

 

57 minutes ago, DrMikeNZ said:

Yep, I do not suggest that the OP should get the 6900K, just that the Ryzen would not be much of an upgrade for the intended workload.

A 6700K is obviously slower than the 6900K for encoding as well, but 4 fast cores are better than 8 slow cores that have Ryzen's halved AVX2 performance.

How about the 5960x?

 

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Just now, Polarwindz said:

How about the 5960x?

It is similar price and performance as the 6900K, it is quite an expensive upgrade though.

At this point unless you urgently need more performance now, I would recommend waiting a year to see what is released with the next HEDT processors.

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On 4/8/2017 at 7:27 PM, DrMikeNZ said:

It is similar price and performance as the 6900K, it is quite an expensive upgrade though.

At this point unless you urgently need more performance now, I would recommend waiting a year to see what is released with the next HEDT processors.

I see! I'll weigh my options 

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