better cpu?

[Ronnie46]

what would be better for gaming? 15-6500k or 17-3770?

 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Ronnie46 said:

what would be better for gaming? 15-6500k or 17-3770?

 

Which game?

[Ronnie46]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

Which game?

i just want to play new Tripple A games

 

[Damascus]

i5-6500k doesn't exist, you may be thinking of 6600K

 

[Damascus]

i7 7700 is best

 

Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sJkcyf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($234.89 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z270P-D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($107.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $371.87

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CcPxVY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CcPxVY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $356.97

[Ronnie46]

Just now, Damascus said:

i5-6500k doesn't exist, you may be thinking of 6600K

 

sorry i meant i5-6500

 

[Ronnie46]

Just now, Damascus said:

i7 7700 is best

 

Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sJkcyf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($234.89 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z270P-D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($107.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $371.87

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CcPxVY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CcPxVY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $356.97

on a budget

 

[Damascus]

Just now, Ronnie46 said:

sorry i meant i5-6500

 

Ah ok. I'd get the i7

[Damascus]

Just now, Ronnie46 said:

on a budget

 

Thought it was a toss-up between the K i5 dude

[Ronnie46]

Just now, Damascus said:

Ah ok. I'd get the i7

okay, thanks <3

 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Damascus said:

Ah ok. I'd get the i7

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-6500/1979vs3513

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1646?vs=551

 

Get an i5. 

[ARikozuM]

i5 will do better thanks to DDR4's extra bandwidth.

[Damascus]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-6500/1979vs3513

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1646?vs=551

 

Get an i5. 

i7s extra threads will improve performance, especially in newer games.  BF1 is just a sign of thing to come.

@Princess Cadence

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Damascus said:

i7s extra threads will improve performance, especially in newer games.  BF1 is just a sign of thing to come.

@Princess Cadence

The link I showed also did gaming benchmarks check that. It's IPC not number of cores, i7 3770 is old and offer no upgrade path. 

You don't judge performance by threads or cores, else you should go with FX 8350

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Damascus said:

i7s extra threads will improve performance, especially in newer games.  BF1 is just a sign of thing to come.

@Princess Cadence

Here if you want to use BF1 as an example. It's an open beta but does show what it should

[Damascus]

6 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

The link I showed also did gaming benchmarks check that. It's IPC not number of cores, i7 3770 is old and offer no upgrade path. 

You don't judge performance by threads or cores, else you should go with FX 8350

I'm not judging solely on cores/threads.they have the same single core performance but in multi  core the i7 has a %30 lead, easily making up for the %10 faster i5 quad core speed.

It wins two of the benchmarks by a landslide and ties or is very close in the rest

 

 

The i7 has 8mb of cache to the i5's 6mb

http://ark.intel.com/compare/88184,65719

 

 

Can't find any info on IPC

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Damascus said:

I'm not judging solely on cores/threads.they have the same single core performance but in multi  core the i7 has a %30 lead, easily making up for the %10 faster i5 quad core speed.

It wins two of the benchmarks by a landslide and ties or is very close in the rest

 

The i7 has 8mb of cache to the i5's 6mb

http://ark.intel.com/compare/88184,65719

 

 

Can't find any info on IPC

Did you check the benchmarks I linked and the BF1 results too? Cause that's how it works in real life, he asked for gaming not for userbenchmark

[ARikozuM]

2 minutes ago, Damascus said:

snipped due to userbenchmark

I wouldn't rely too heavily on Userbenchmark since some of those benches do excessively poorly or well leading to skewed results. 

[Damascus]

Just now, ARikozuM said:

I wouldn't rely too heavily on Userbenchmark since some of those benches do excessively poorly or well leading to skewed results. 

I agree but I'm not the one who brought it up originally

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Damascus said:

I agree but I'm not the one who brought it up originally

And he did offer AnandTech's benchmark as well. 

[VerticalDiscussions]

The only way you can trust something is if you have:

 

 

Get two test benches with both CPUs and get the real stuff fixed and properly shown.

 

There, prob solved Damascus.

[Damascus]

10 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Did you check the benchmarks I linked and the BF1 results too? Cause that's how it works in real life, he asked for gaming not for userbenchmark

The game benchmarks support me as well.  The i7 is consistent neck and neck with i5 in games but does better in some situations where the extra cores are really useful.  The artificial benches are really bad for 3770 but the games speak for themselves

Addressing it now

7 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

And he did offer AnandTech's benchmark as well. 

 

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, Damascus said:

The game benchmarks support me as well.  The i7 is consistent neck and neck with i5 in games but does better in some situations where the extra cores are really useful.  The artificial benches are really bad for 3770 but the games speak for themselves

 

 

Addressing it now

 

Which is which?

[Damascus]

@deXxterlab97 and @ARikozuM

Note  GTA5, that heavy core use on CPU is  what I'm talking about.  More and more games will use those cores

[Damascus]

Just now, ARikozuM said:

Which is which?

Srry, blue is i5, orange is i7, fixing now