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Swift Not on Mac?

BuckGup

I think I am misinformed but is Swift the only language you can use to create apps for IOS? If so is there any way without having a mac? I have a mac to do it but it is sorta slow.

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

I think I am misinformed but is Swift the only language you can use to create apps for IOS? If so is there any way without having a mac? I have a mac to do it but it is sorta slow.

You can write iOS apps without a mac (in C# with Xamarin is one way), but you won't be able to build them without a physical mac (or an "illegal" one if you know what I mean).

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Just now, JFischer00 said:

You can write iOS apps without a mac (in C# with Xamarin is one way), but you won't be able to build them without a physical mac (or an "illegal" one if you know what I mean).

Alright I will just use my mac I guess

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

Alright I will just use my mac I guess

Yeah, that's Apple for you. Very closed ecosystem.

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Just now, JFischer00 said:

Yeah, that's Apple for you. Very closed ecosystem.

Yeah but that also leads to better optimization, security, and support. 

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

Yeah but that also leads to better optimization, security, and support. 

Definitely...

There are pros and cons, and open development just happens to be one of the cons. On the other hand, Microsoft seems to be finally opening everything up, which is great for developers on all platforms.

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33 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I think I am misinformed but is Swift the only language you can use to create apps for IOS?

swift is a replacement for the older Objective C. I have not had time to look into it but the older Objective C was not competitive with Android for GUI designers. Swift gets some pretty awesome reviews. In time Swift will be the only Apple language but I think cross platform solutions will win out for cost reasons.

33 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

If so is there any way without having a mac? I have a mac to do it but it is sorta slow.

You can program without a mac but to build the software into an application for publishing you need a mac. If you look up 'mac build server' theres a few companies that have shown you only need one cheap mac mini in the office to produce iOS apps

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3 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

I have not had time to look into it but the older Objective C was not competitive with Android for GUI designers.

Objective-C used the same tool for building GUIs as Swift and IMO is by far the best GUI designer for any language/platform, even before the Swift era.

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23 minutes ago, fizzlesticks said:

Objective-C used the same tool for building GUIs as Swift and IMO is by far the best GUI designer for any language/platform, even before the Swift era.

 

31 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

swift is a replacement for the older Objective C. I have not had time to look into it but the older Objective C was not competitive with Android for GUI designers. Swift gets some pretty awesome reviews. In time Swift will be the only Apple language but I think cross platform solutions will win out for cost reasons.

You can program without a mac but to build the software into an application for publishing you need a mac. If you look up 'mac build server' theres a few companies that have shown you only need one cheap mac mini in the office to produce iOS apps

 

56 minutes ago, JFischer00 said:

Definitely...

There are pros and cons, and open development just happens to be one of the cons. On the other hand, Microsoft seems to be finally opening everything up, which is great for developers on all platforms.

Do any of you know Swift well? I have an idea for an app.

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18 minutes ago, fizzlesticks said:

Objective-C used the same tool for building GUIs as Swift and IMO is by far the best GUI designer for any language/platform, even before the Swift era.

Swift is supposedly easier for coding, but as i said i havent had time to look into it. Do people actually use the graphical designer? I get pretty pictures from the graphic designer they made in photoshop and just write it in XML for android. One day the graphic designer will be either trained to do that themselves or the tools won't require me to go into the code

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Do any of you know Swift well? I have an idea for an app.

No im an android developer who doesn't have time for iOS even though Iv been planning for it for almost 12 months now. You and everyone else I have ever met has an idea for an app. I always respond with give me an investment prospectus or an employment contract if you want to be taken seriously. One piece of advice a local start up group I follow on facebook gets at least one request a month for someone to do all the programming in exchange for shares that are not worth anything, and they always get trolled.

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5 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

No im an android developer who doesn't have time for iOS even though Iv been planning for it for almost 12 months now. You and everyone else I have ever met has an idea for an app. I always respond with give me an investment prospectus or an employment contract if you want to be taken seriously. One piece of advice a local start up group I follow on facebook gets at least one request a month for someone to do all the programming in exchange for shares that are not worth anything, and they always get trolled.

Nah I'm not asking for someone to do it. I want to learn myself

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Swift is an open source language, it means you can run it on most of the popular platforms. You don't need a mac for the basic functionality. You will, however, need one if you want to use Apple-specific tools and export it on the device itself. For Swift basics, it's fine.

Objective-C is another language used for iOS development, but it's known to be more difficult and troublesome than Swift.

There is a framework called Xamarin, using which you can create apps for iOS as well as Android and WP, using the C# language.

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