FX series a dead platform?

[nobiggieBIG]

I have a colleague who thinks his 6350 will last 5+ more years because its overclockable.

 

Please halp me prove him wrong.

[Guest]

Well I have no idea where to start lol

 

6350 is a beast though, it makes my Lightning shake uncontrollably.

[Cryptonite]

2 minutes ago, nobiggieBIG said:

I have a colleague who thinks his 6350 will last 5+ more years because its overclockable.

 

Please halp me prove him wrong.

depends what he does with it, there are people satisfied with dual cores from socket 775 and some with their quad core counterparts, it really depends on him.

[nobiggieBIG]

Just now, Cryptonite said:

depends what he does with it, there are people satisfied with dual cores from socket 775 and some with their quad core counterparts, it really depends on him.

Just for gaming.

[nobiggieBIG]

1 minute ago, FJRiley said:

Well I have no idea where to start lol

 

6350 is a beast though, it makes my Lightning shake uncontrollably.

Yes its a beast but will it play games at max settings with a 970 in 5 years?

[Cryptonite]

Just now, nobiggieBIG said:

Just for gaming.

which games, what resolution? for 1080p and over 30 fps it will do just fine, for over 120 fps I'd upgrade. It'll be better than a console so long as he has a decent card in there.

[Cryptonite]

1 minute ago, nobiggieBIG said:

Yes its a beast but will it play games at max settings with a 970 in 5 years?

no it will not, but neither can you guarantee another card can.

[nobiggieBIG]

1 minute ago, Cryptonite said:

no it will not, but neither can you guarantee another card can.

ive been saying that i want a pentium g4560, and hes been saying that cores matter more for gaming... But the g4560 single and 4 core performance is better

[Cryptonite]

1 minute ago, nobiggieBIG said:

ive been saying that i want a pentium g4560, and hes been saying that cores matter more for gaming... But the g4560 single and 4 core performance is better

I'd also not get a g4560 and say it's a lot better than the 6350 since it will depend on what you do with it, and the g4560 will cause a bottleneck more than an i5 does, it's better to wait for Ryzen 5 to see if intel makes stuff a little cheaper.

[nobiggieBIG]

2 minutes ago, Cryptonite said:

I'd also not get a g4560 and say it's a lot better than the 6350 since it will depend on what you do with it, and the g4560 will cause a bottleneck more than an i5 does, it's better to wait for Ryzen 5 to see if intel makes stuff a little cheaper.

g4560 according to youtube doesnt bottleneck a 1060/470. I should be fine

[Cryptonite]

Just now, nobiggieBIG said:

g4560 according to youtube doesnt bottleneck a 1060/470. I should be fine

we're talking about games that will be out in the next 5 years aren't we? you should not be assume you'll be fine. It's a dual core 4 thread cpu, it is an entry level cpu any way you look at it.

[Guest Kloaked]

6 minutes ago, nobiggieBIG said:

ive been saying that i want a pentium g4560, and hes been saying that cores matter more for gaming... But the g4560 single and 4 core performance is better

The type of core and the clock speed is what matters the most generally, but four cores is starting to become the minimum for an optimal experience. Old AMD FX CPUs are terrible for modern gaming when a simple dual core Skylake i3 can do everything they do but better.

[nobiggieBIG]

Just now, Cryptonite said:

we're talking about games that will be out in the next 5 years aren't we? you should not be assume you'll be fine. It's a dual core 4 thread cpu, it is an entry level cpu any way you look at it.

No im going to get the pentium and when i can afford it get the i5-6600/k

[Glenwing]

Depends on what he means by "last".

 

Will it still be operational in 5 years? Sure

 

Will it be able to maintain decent framerate (45-60 fps) in most games at higher settings when overclocked heavily? No; depending on the game, it can't even do that today.

 

Will it be able to maintain decent framerates in most games if you turn down all the settings? Maybe... probably not. That CPU is from 2012, and even then it was bad; lower performance than AMD's 2010 CPUs per clock. In another 5 years it will be 2022, 10 years since launch. Are mid-range CPUs from 2007 (10 years) ago able to maintain decent framerates in today's big titles at lowest settings? Ehh...

[EPPHO]

1. It might actually die before 5 years expire

2. Yes it will be "enough" of CPU power for 5 years BUT depends on what he does with it

[nobiggieBIG]

Just now, Glenwing said:

Depends on what he means by "last".

 

Will it still be operational in 5 years? Sure

 

Will it be able to maintain decent framerate (45-60 fps) in most games at higher settings when overclocked heavily? No; depending on the game, it can't even do that today.

 

Will it be able to maintain decent framerates in most games if you turn down all the settings? Maybe... probably not. That CPU is from 2012. In another 5 years it will be 2022, 10 years since launch. Are mid-range CPUs from 2007 (10 years) ago able to maintain decent framerates in today's big titles at lowest settings? Ehh...

Exactly my words to the fucking letter

[DarkBlade2117]

32 minutes ago, Cryptonite said:

I'd also not get a g4560 and say it's a lot better than the 6350 since it will depend on what you do with it, and the g4560 will cause a bottleneck more than an i5 does, it's better to wait for Ryzen 5 to see if intel makes stuff a little cheaper.

I mean.. As of now the P4560 will out perform a 8350 because of its shit IPC and dead architecture. In rendering? No but at that point an entry level i5 competes with it and pulls even further ahead in gaming.

In 5 years? Well..to be fair dual cores are starting to die and even with the extra cores of the 6350 my old i3-6100 outperformed my friend in every real world bench. Even rendering. I'd give the P4560 2 years before the minimums at 1080p go below 30 at low settings. They almost go below 30 in specific scenarios at medium in GTA V and poorly optimized titles it's a mess. The 6350 I give another year at best.

[nobiggieBIG]

4 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

I mean.. As of now the P4560 will out perform a 8350 because of its shit IPC and dead architecture. In rendering? No but at that point an entry level i5 competes with it and pulls even further ahead in gaming.

In 5 years? Well..to be fair dual cores are starting to die and even with the extra cores of the 6350 my old i3-6100 outperformed my friend in every real world bench. Even rendering. I'd give the P4560 2 years before the minimums at 1080p go below 30 at low settings. They almost go below 30 in specific scenarios at medium in GTA V and poorly optimized titles it's a mess. The 6350 I give another year at best.

its good it you want to switch to an i5/i7 but cant afford it.

[PenPoint]

Almost no need to prove it, just show him that 6350 is based on our dear Bulldozer. This makes sense enough

[DarkBlade2117]

11 minutes ago, nobiggieBIG said:

its good it you want to switch to an i5/i7 but cant afford it.

I know the benefits of it. It is the exact reason I owned an i3-6100 for several-ish months. The fact that Intel offers it, they already killed the entire i3 lineup off.

[Fake Dragonite]

What I would say to do is get NZXT CAM or some other program with an overlay that shows cpu and gpu usage and see what happens during games. If BOTH the cpu is pegged at 90-100% during a gaming load AND the gpu is at less than 85-100% when playing the games that your friend  plays, then I'd say it's time to upgrade the cpu and let them know that until they do, they honestly did waste some money on their graphics card. However, until that point, if all your friend does is play games, I'd say leave them alone honestly. A CPU bottleneck on a non top-tier gpu is pretty rare to come by, especially with intel sitting on ass for the past 6 years in regards to architecture. I really hope Ryzen changes that, and from what we are seeing even only after a couple days of it launching, I feel it will.

Tl;dr: Do I think an upgrade is necessary right now for your friend? Probably not. Do I think it will last for 5+ years? Hell no. Maybe two years at  the ABSOLUTE most.

[You_are_a_cunt]

It's dead, Jim.