Dedicated drive for FRAPS

[Liam-McShane]

So using FRAPS my major bottleneck is my HDD. I was thinking about getting a dedicated drive for FRAPS recordings. I'm considering a fast HDD (Something like a velociraptor) or maybe an SSD. If i was too choose an SSD do you think writing such large files to it often would severely shorten it's life span? 

 

What drive would you guys suggest be it HDD or SSD? 

 

Thanks

[guas5373]

Writing too much to the ssd could shorten it's life span. For an hdd, the velociraptor is probably your best bet.

[defunkt]

i have a seagate baracuda and it is no faster recording to my ssd. hdd's are plenty fast enough.

[miyabwah]

FAPS files are pretty huge, so http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-EVO-Series-2-5-Inch-MZ-7TE250BW/dp/B00E3W1726/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1BVYXEL822RF0

[wng_kingsley7]

See if you can find one of those seagate SSHD

Its got a 8Gb SSD cache to the HDD which is like however many terabytes of storage

[Liam-McShane]

i have a seagate baracuda and it is no faster recording to my ssd. hdd's are plenty fast enough.

Not from what i have tested. With my HDD i get bad slowdows and my average FPS is pretty poor. With my SSD however my average FPS is only a little lower than without FRAPS and i get no slowdowns.

[defunkt]

Not from what i have tested. With my HDD i get bad slowdows and my average FPS is pretty poor. With my SSD however my average FPS is only a little lower than without FRAPS and i get no slowdowns.

what drive do you have?

[Liam-McShane]

what drive do you have?

Samsung  F3 HD103SJ 1TB. I've done speed tests on it and they are what i should expect. It's not my OS drive either.

[defunkt]

Samsung  F3 HD103SJ 1TB. I've done speed tests on it and they are what i should expect. It's not my OS drive either.

I have no problems at all with recording to a hard drive. i'd check other parts of your system..

[Liam-McShane]

I have no problems at all with recording to a hard drive. i'd check other parts of your system..

Well i have a 2TB Green drive that i could try but i can only imagine it would be way slower

[LogicDeifying]

Use OBS  or if you must have FAPS then use a HDD I don't think you need a SSD or an SSHD for Fraps maybe for DxTory but not for FAPS.

[Theo]

Why do you use fraps and not dxtory? It makes smaller files/less performance hit and is generally better, so the hdd requirements should be less

[Liam-McShane]

Why do you use fraps and not dxtory? It makes smaller files/less performance hit and is generally better, so the hdd requirements should be less

 

 

Use OBS  or if you must have FAPS then use a HDD I don't think you need a SSD or an SSHD for Fraps maybe for DxTory but not for FAPS.

 

I've tried DxTory and my recordings were only around 10-15 FPS. My gameplay was fine whilst recording so i'm assuming my HDD was the bottleneck again. 

 

I will try OBS today and see how it performs.

[Theo]

I've tried DxTory and my recordings were only around 10-15 FPS. My gameplay was fine whilst recording so i'm assuming my HDD was the bottleneck again. 

 

I will try OBS today and see how it performs.

did you tweak the settings in dxtory at all? cause if not that explains it, if you want i can give you what i use and maybe try it then.

I switched from fraps to dxtory when i found out how to properly use it

[TheProfosist]

A good drive would be a seagate sv35 its designed for video survalence and dvr usage both of whoch are close to streaming in the way they utilize a drive.

[Liam-McShane]

did you tweak the settings in dxtory at all? cause if not that explains it, if you want i can give you what i use and maybe try it then.

I switched from fraps to dxtory when i found out how to properly use it

I tried all the codecs and changed the settings that i understood but it didn't seem to change much

 

A good drive would be a seagate sv35 its designed for video survalence and dvr usage both of whoch are close to streaming in the way they utilize a drive.

Thank you for your suggestion, i will look into it

[Theo]

I tried all the codecs and changed the settings that i understood but it didn't seem to change much

 

Thank you for your suggestion, i will look into it

Did you increase the amount of cores dxtory can use? in default its set to 1 which i find is not enough

[Liam-McShane]

Did you increase the amount of cores dxtory can use? in default its set to 1 which i find is not enough

Yeah i set it to 4. I'm starting to think my HDD doesn't like this type of media being copied to it. It does just fine in speed tests and it doesn't have any bad sectors. It's the only explanation i can give for my poor performance with this drive

[Theo]

Yeah i set it to 4. I'm starting to think my HDD doesn't like this type of media being copied to it. It does just fine in speed tests and it doesn't have any bad sectors. It's the only explanation i can give for my poor performance with this drive

Another thing, is the game on the same HDD as the one you are recording to? if yes that explains it, if not im out of ideas 

[Liam-McShane]

Another thing, is the game on the same HDD as the one you are recording to? if yes that explains it, if not im out of ideas 

Nope it isn't. I put most of my games on my SSD. I'm not sure how to explain it either.

[TheProfosist]

I tried all the codecs and changed the settings that i understood but it didn't seem to change much

 

Thank you for your suggestion, i will look into it

These drives also regularly go on sale on newegg I just picked a 3TB up as my games drive for $120 after promo code and at the same time the 1TB was on sale for $65. If you going to buy one not on sale the 2TB is the best price and I currently have one of those in my HTPC/Server as the recording and games drive. There are only like a couple games on it. I would have put on the OS SSD but its only 40gb and Win7x64 takes up most of that and and after the needed programs for HTPC and Sever stuff there is only room for about one game. But with no space left both windows and the SSD wont be the happiest if you know what I mean.

Also the SV35 series has blazing performance because they have a 1TB per platter density so if you want speed pick up the 1TB drive as it only has one platter. Besides that they are considered entry level enterprise drives so you podo get a better warranty than a standard consumer one.

[SteepGnomeKing]

i have a seagate baracuda and it is no faster recording to my ssd. hdd's are plenty fast enough.

Not from what i have tested. With my HDD i get bad slowdows and my average FPS is pretty poor. With my SSD however my average FPS is only a little lower than without FRAPS and i get no slowdowns.

 

I've always been confused by people commenting on fraps performance. If you have a secondary drive than what the game is on I don't understand why Fraps (and from my tests fraps hasn't) made a difference in fps. With a sperate diver all over, it does it record the footage and doesn't slow anything down. It made 0 difference to what the game was outputting in fps. There was no 10-20% reduction. There has always been a 0% reduction as long as you record on a secondary drive as what the game is on.

[TheProfosist]

I've always been confused by people commenting on fraps performance. If you have a secondary drive than what the game is on I don't understand why Fraps (and from my tests fraps hasn't) made a difference in fps. With a sperate diver all over, it does it record the footage and doesn't slow anything down. It made 0 difference to what the game was outputting in fps. There was no 10-20% reduction. There has always been a 0% reduction as long as you record on a secondary drive as what the game is on.

If you use some sort of compression it will impact your frame rate even if you record to a different drive. I mean you might be able to get around this if you have a 6 core cpu as you could lock the game to as many cores at it would use then lock FRAPS and the encoder to the other cores.

[dylandylandylan]

Hey dude, I highly suggest using DXtory, also look up the video on how to record 1080p video but also cutting it down in size using the lagarith loseless codec, saved me a load of times.

Processing video through adobe premier or sony vegas will also cut down your end video in size a lot. 

I have a dedicated hard drive for recording to, and the performance is very noticeable, especially if you are running games off the same drive. I just use a general storage seagate 7200 1TB drive, (69 bucks or whatever) and it does the job perfectly.

[TheProfosist]

Hey dude, I highly suggest using DXtory, also look up the video on how to record 1080p video but also cutting it down in size using the lagarith loseless codec, saved me a load of times.

Processing video through adobe premier or sony vegas will also cut down your end video in size a lot. 

I have a dedicated hard drive for recording to, and the performance is very noticeable, especially if you are running games off the same drive. I just use a general storage seagate 7200 1TB drive, (69 bucks or whatever) and it does the job perfectly.

For the drive as I said before look at the Seagate SV35 series they are usually the same price if not much more than their normal drive.