Defragment - SSDs?

[Tech Wizard]

Hey, I have 2x SSDs and 0 HDDs in my PC. Does SSDs need to be defragged, or is that only HDDs?
If SSDs don't need to be defragged, is there any harm in doing it anyways? Thanks

[TheAndroidSentByCyberlife]

Dont defrag your SSD as it will use loads of your read write cycles, Windows automatically trims your SSDs so you don't really have to do anything.

[Oshino Shinobu]

You should not defrag SSDs, it will reduce the lifespan. 

 

That said, if you're defragging through Windows 10 (this may apply to other versions, but I'm unsure on that), it will not actually defrag the SSD, it will run TRIM, which is kind of like defragging HDDs but for SSDs (the operations they perform are different, but they serve a similar purpose). TRIM is what you should run on an SSD, defrag on HDDs. 

[Tech Wizard]

2 minutes ago, Reallifecat said:

Dont defrag your SSD as it will use loads of your read write cycles, Windows automatically trims your SSDs so you don't really have to do anything.

2 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

You should not defrag SSDs, it will reduce the lifespan. 

 

That said, if you're defragging through Windows 10 (this may apply to other versions, but I'm unsure on that), it will not actually defrag the SSD, it will run TRIM, which is kind of like defragging HDDs but for SSDs (the operations they perform are different, but they serve a similar purpose). TRIM is what you should run on an SSD, defrag on HDDs. 

Thanks for your replies. I noticed my windows has scheduled defragmentation on. Should I turn this off, to prevent any damage to my SSDs?

 

[Oshino Shinobu]

2 minutes ago, Tech Wizard said:

Thanks for your replies. I noticed my windows has scheduled defragmentation on. Should I turn this off, to prevent any damage to my SSDs?

 

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Windows won't actually defrag SSDs, it will run TRIM (though is still calls it defragging for some reason). At least, it does in Windows 10, I am not sure about older versions, but I would expect at least 8 and 8.1 to run TRIM not defrag. If you're on Windows 10, leave it on. For older versions of WIndows I can't say for sure. 

[SeanAngelo]

15 minutes ago, Tech Wizard said:

Hey, I have 2x SSDs and 0 HDDs in my PC. Does SSDs need to be defragged, or is that only HDDs?
If SSDs don't need to be defragged, is there any harm in doing it anyways? Thanks

only HDD#s

 

SSD dont need deeefragging

[Tech Wizard]

14 minutes ago, SeanAngelo said:

only HDD#s

 

SSD dont need deeefragging

Thanks. Do you think I should turn off Window's automatic defragment set every week? See my pic above

[SeanAngelo]

25 minutes ago, Tech Wizard said:

Thanks. Do you think I should turn off Window's automatic defragment set every week? See my pic above

i would keep it on, it wont harm your computer or anything. just make sure to set it to defrag your hard drive only, not your SSD.

[Tech Wizard]

1 minute ago, SeanAngelo said:

i would keep it on, it wont harm your computer or anything. just make sure to set it to defrag your hard drive only, not your SSD.

I don't have any HDDs in my rig, as stated in the first post. Running SSD only

[Maxinfamily]

The hdds are divided in pages, and sectors. Each of them has a phisical allocation in the HDDs disks, because in case you didnt know, there are 2-4 physical disks spinning inside your drive which store your data. On the other hand, the SSD are divided on pages and sectora but they have logical allocations sin they are a kind of flash memory.

 

When you use your hdd and store data they do it on a drive It stores the data in the minimum storage unit, tye sector so the data has a physical allocation, tye bigger the data your are storing the more sectors It needs. Sometimes you delete files... Hell, I hate my english gonna draw something... 

 

You delete data#2 from your device and It happends to be "surrounded" by other data so when you try to write another data (data#X) it needs 2 sectors so It is written somewhere else and you leave a gap in your disk.

 

 

When you defrag your hdd, It moves your data so there are not gaps between data as efficiently as It cans, since Its not perfect.

 

I hope I threw some light into the matter and someone can actually understand what I was trying to explain

 

P.D: sorry for the crappy drawing (?)

 

Edit: in case someone thinks I was trying to "look cool" or something like that, I wasnt. I was trying to share something n.n