2600k vs. 4770k

[SeekerAfterTruth]

So I'm helping a friend to upgrade his computer and we are (of course) looking for a CPU to buy. So the question I pose to you forum members is i7 2600k new on eBay for $280 or 4770k new from a retail store for $379. We may have some trouble finding motherboards for the 2600k but we'll manage. So the main point I was considering was of course the price and the weigh up of overclocking headroom of the parts (I believe sandybridge should overclock better) vs IPC performance. What do you all reckon?

 

Thanks

[Andrew0472]

just get 4770k because its newer and z87 has some really nice features. No point buying into an older socket/chip unless its a 2011 e.g. 3930k etc. However i'm not sure how much impact the 100 dollar savings would have...

[ViruZ_HUN]

So I'm helping a friend to upgrade his computer and we are (of course) looking for a CPU to buy. So the question I pose to you forum members is i7 2600k new on eBay for $280 or 4770k new from a retail store for $379. We may have some trouble finding motherboards for the 2600k but we'll manage. So the main point I was considering was of course the price and the weigh up of overclocking headroom of the parts (I believe sandybridge should overclock better) vs IPC performance. What do you all reckon?

 

Thanks

Passmark says around 20-25%

 

 

But 2600k is a better Oc'er so u can OC the HELL out of it and go to 4770k preformence and even higher

[JoshM]

I would get the 2600k try and get a decent Z77 board (they are still in stock and work fine) and with the saved money put it towards a better gpu

[Hazy125]

On single and multi-threaded tasks, the 4770K performs on average 15% better. Slightly lower on single threaded and slightly higher on multi-threaded, but on average, around 15%. Haswell typically doesn't overclock as well as Sandy, which may not mean so much to you but to someone like me that's something very serious to consider. So really it's entirely up to you. A better CPU is the Haswell in most cases and 1150 motherboards are pretty exceptional in terms of features, but the 2600K will last for a while yet and there are other things you can put your money towards....

[A/C]

Passmark says around 20-25%

 

 

But 2600k is a better Oc'er so u can OC the HELL out of it and go to 4770k preformence and even higher

 

No, just no...

Just get the 4770K, because reasons.

 

 

But srsly now, like @marto up there said, the money you "save" on getting the 2600K you will spend on the mobo to get the features you get as standard on Z87. Also, admittingly irrelevant right now the 2600K does not support PCI-e 3.0, but still a thing to consider.

Also, you mentioned IPC (or instructions per clock), so I assume you know what you're saying. Here is some reference:

 

 

Images courtesy of HARDOCP: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/06/01/intel_haswell_i74770k_ipc_overclocking_review/5#.UnzRdXA_tic

 

(these are just some of the graphs, as I don't want to spam the thread too hard, you can find more on the link provided above, and here: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/06/01/intel_haswell_i74770k_ipc_overclocking_review/3#.UnzRcHA_tic ), which renders Viruz_Hun's argument moot again.

 

Don't forget that the 2600K is a 3 year old chip so you would be buying it now based solely on it's good rep in the community. I wouldn't do that on this day and age. Haswell is better, period.

 

I have one 2600K in my brothers PC at home and it's a great CPU with its potential still fully untapped. And it would serve you well for gaming in the years to come. But this isn't 2011, so don't buy technology from 2011, I know I never would.

[Akula]

2600k is still Intel's best processor of the last 5 years.

Ivy/Haswell has got nothing on Sandy.

 

I own the 3770k/4770k and i still return to my 5.4Ghz 2600k

[A/C]

2600k is still Intel's best processor of the last 5 years.

Ivy/Haswell has got nothing on Sandy.

 

I own the 3770k/4770k and i still return to my 5.4Ghz 2600k

 

 

The 2600K on 5.4Ghz performs worse than a 4770K clocked at 5Ghz. You got lucky with your 2600K because not may can overclock to 5.4, just like only a few of 4770K can overclock to 5Ghz.

[Akula]

The 2600K on 5.4Ghz performs worse than a 4770K clocked at 5Ghz. You got lucky with your 2600K because not may can overclock to 5.4, just like only a few of 4770K can overclock to 5Ghz.

 

4770k @ 5.0Ghz is rare, quite rare, most struggle with 4.6Ghz

2600k/2700k @ 5.0Ghz+ is rather easy, I've had roughly 8 x 2600k/2700k that were able to clock 5.0Ghz with average volts.

 

Personally the only benefit I've gained with Ivy/Haswell is the ability to delid to at least attempt to manage the heat.

[That Norwegian Guy]

2600k is still Intel's best processor of the last 5 years.

Ivy/Haswell has got nothing on Sandy.

 

I own the 3770k/4770k and i still return to my 5.4Ghz 2600k

 

Nah, Ivy was the sweet spot for OC performance out of the three gens.

[A/C]

 

 

 

 

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree then

[ViruZ_HUN]

No, just no...

Just get the 4770K, because reasons.

 

 

But srsly now, like @marto up there said, the money you "save" on getting the 2600K you will spend on the mobo to get the features you get as standard on Z87. Also, admittingly irrelevant right now the 2600K does not support PCI-e 3.0, but still a thing to consider.

Also, you mentioned IPC (or instructions per clock), so I assume you know what you're saying. Here is some reference:

 

 

Images courtesy of HARDOCP: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/06/01/intel_haswell_i74770k_ipc_overclocking_review/5#.UnzRdXA_tic

 

(these are just some of the graphs, as I don't want to spam the thread too hard, you can find more on the link provided above, and here: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/06/01/intel_haswell_i74770k_ipc_overclocking_review/3#.UnzRcHA_tic ), which renders Viruz_Hun's argument moot again.

 

Don't forget that the 2600K is a 3 year old chip so you would be buying it now based solely on it's good rep in the community. I wouldn't do that on this day and age. Haswell is better, period.

 

I have one 2600K in my brothers PC at home and it's a great CPU with its potential still fully untapped. And it would serve you well for gaming in the years to come. But this isn't 2011, so don't buy technology from 2011, I know I never would.

oh i thought he already had his 2600k? 

 

my choice would be 4770k if u are deciding which to buy of them!

[DAGEEK]

4770k

[Badness]

Haswell for PCIE 3.0. It may not matter quite yet, but that time is just around the corner. You can get a 4770K for very cheap if you live by a microcenter.

[swifty7]

I have a similar dilemma as the OP but unlike the OP my current rig consists of a 2500K with the MSI P67A-C43.  I have also purchased the ASrock Extreme 4 about a year ago but due to laziness...lol! I didn't go through with the new build which I'm kind of happy I didn't because I recently bought myself a new full tower case to accommodate the upcoming long video cards from either Nvidia or AMD.  Now I'm not sure if I should go ahead and build my new rig with what I have or wait and buy a new mobo with haswell.   Will the non supporting pci 3.0 2500k be a significant bottleneck? or it doesn't make much of a difference? I want to spend the least amount of money because I want to save as much as I can so I can upgrade my current GTX 670FTW to a R9 290 non reference or maybe another nvidia card down the road.

 

do you guys think maybe the best and most economical option for me would be to just get a 3570k for my brand new still in the box z77 extreme 4 or wait a bit longer and make the full haswell switch?

[L_Dub]

Personaly i'd go with a 2600K because it runs cooler and the chip is still great. I'd put the extra moneys to a good GFX card and call it good. If i had to guess the chip would last another many years, my buddy has a i7 960 and its still running strong with a updated card. 

My $.02 but haswell runs hot!