Worth the upgrade?

[kelvinhall05]

I want to upgrade my computer hopefully near my birthday (March 25th) and I want to upgrade my CPU, motherboard, and maybe RAM. Problem is, I don't know what to get. I would like to stick with a DDR3 board since I don't want to spend another $60 on RAM, but I can if it's a good deal. So far I've been looking at a Pentium G4560, new motherboard, and new RAM, but would it be worth upgrading from my i5-750? What should I buy? My budget is under $150, but I can stretch it to $200. I'm in Canada, thanks!

[Martii]

Advance happy birthday to you

What is your aim on what you're going to do with your computer?

 

[kelvinhall05]

2 hours ago, Martii said:

Advance happy birthday to you

What is your aim on what you're going to do with your computer?

 

 

Thanks

I'm going to be gaming, stuff like Beamng.drive, Team Fortress 2, and maybe GTA V in the future.

[Princess Luna]

9 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

I want to upgrade my computer hopefully near my birthday (March 25th) and I want to upgrade my CPU, motherboard, and maybe RAM. Problem is, I don't know what to get. I would like to stick with a DDR3 board since I don't want to spend another $60 on RAM, but I can if it's a good deal. So far I've been looking at a Pentium G4560, new motherboard, and new RAM, but would it be worth upgrading from my i5-750? What should I buy? My budget is under $150, but I can stretch it to $200. I'm in Canada, thanks!

I don't really see this worth it, get the supported locked i7 for the motherboard you have, you may find it cheap enough in the used market and it will be somewhat higher performance, go to Kaby Lake and DDR3 simply doesn't "match".

[3 Lions]

3 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Thanks

I'm going to be gaming, stuff like Beamng.drive, Team Fortress 2, and maybe GTA V in the future.

For BeamNG. Drive I highly recommend you go with an i7. 

[JoostinOnline]

Save up another $150 for an upgrade.  You're just going to have to replace the parts in a few years otherwise.

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I don't really see this worth it, get the supported locked i7 for the motherboard you have, you may find it cheap enough and it will be somewhat higher performance, go to Kaby Lake and DDR3 simply doesn't "match".

An LGA 1156 i7 is going to be pretty expensive, but not give much better performance.  One of the new Pentiums is going to perform on-par with an i7 that old.

[kelvinhall05]

24 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

For BeamNG. Drive I highly recommend you go with an i7. 

I can max out at 1080p with my current CPU, it only lags when there is more than 2 vehicles moving at once.

22 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Save up another $150 for an upgrade.  You're just going to have to replace the parts in a few years otherwise.

An LGA 1156 i7 is going to be pretty expensive, but not give much better performance.

 

I can get an i7-870 for $80...

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, kelvinhall05 said:

I can max out at 1080p with my current CPU, it only lags when there is more than 2 vehicles moving at once.

You'll have a much better experience playing it on an i7, trust me I have this game and I'm using an i7 4790K. 

[JoostinOnline]

21 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

I can get an i7-870 for $80...

Which is basically identical to the G4560 in terms of performance.  A label isn't everything.

20 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

You'll have a much better experience playing it on an i7, trust me I have this game and I'm using an i7 4790K. 

Lol, comparing a 4790K to an i7-870 is truly ridiculous.  It's well over twice as powerful.

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

Lol, comparing a 4790K to an i7-870 is truly ridiculous.  It's well over twice as powerful.

It's still 4 Cores and 8 Threads. 

[kelvinhall05]

19 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Which is basically identical to the G4560 in terms of performance.  A label isn't everything.

I know a label isn't everything, but with the Pentium I would need a new motherboard and RAM.

20 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

I have this game

Ibishu 200BX is the best.

[JoostinOnline]

17 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

It's still 4 Cores and 8 Threads. 

So?  That's just one aspect.  A Pentium can out-perform an i7 despite the core/thread difference.

17 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

I know a label isn't everything, but with the Pentium I would need a new motherboard and RAM.

I know.  I wasn't recommending the G4560 as a gaming CPU.  Nor would I recommend the i7-870.

 

I know you want an upgrade now, but the best thing to do is wait it out and save up for something better.  You could also buy the parts at different times.  Just watch sales.

[atma]

my first budget build was the g3258, overclocked to 4.1 on air plays gta well on medium settings. but thats about all it can do. if you really want to save money, watch Linus' scrapyard wars videos. some really good information out there on the interwebz. just depends on what kind of budget you really have and what you are looking to do with your machine (i know you said gaming).

ultimately i would say anything quad core is great especially if it can be overclocked. The new pentiums look good on paper and in those videos but youll only get a couple years out of it before looking for another upgrade

[3 Lions]

7 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

I know a label isn't everything, but with the Pentium I would need a new motherboard and RAM.

 The best advice I can give you is that you find a second hand LGA 1155 motherboard and find a second hand i7 3770. If you want to spend a little bit more find a second hand LGA 1150 motherboard and find a second hand i7 4770. 

[kelvinhall05]

2 hours ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

LGA 1155 motherboard and find a second hand i7 3770

How much would I be looking at for a MATX motherboard?

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, kelvinhall05 said:

How much would I be looking at for a MATX motherboard?

Have a look on your local Ebay. 

[atma]

i spent $50 on my msi h81 micro atx board that still allows OC

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130731

[JoostinOnline]

2 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

 The best advice I can give is that you find a second hand LGA 1155 motherboard and find a second hand i7 3770. If you want to spend a little bit more find a second hand LGA 1150 motherboard and find a second hand i7 4770. 

This.  You'll probably have to save up a little money first though.

 

In the same generation, Pentium<i3<i5<i7, but there is a lot of overlap between generations.  Nothing in the first generation of the core series is going to match a modern CPU.

[kelvinhall05]

2 hours ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Have a look on your local Ebay. 

Any chipsets I should be looking for?

[JoostinOnline]

2 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Any chipsets I should be looking for?

A Z series if you are planning on overclocking anything.

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Any chipsets I should be looking for?

For locked CPU look for ones with 'H' and remember to look at ones with the correct socket.

 

i7 3770 = LGA 1155

 

i7 4770 = LGA 1150 

[kelvinhall05]

@LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo Almost all the i7-3370 are going for around the same price as a 6500 or even 6600k shipped. Is it worth it?

[JoostinOnline]

1 minute ago, kelvinhall05 said:

@LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo Almost all the i7-3370 are going for around the same price as a 6500 or even 6600k shipped. Is it worth it?

That's what I was saying earlier.  The price drops are pretty much non-existent, despite the age. 

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, kelvinhall05 said:

@LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo Almost all the i7-3370 are going for around the same price as a 6500 or even 6600k shipped. Is it worth it?

For games like BeamNG the 3770 will be better because of the 8 threads. 

[kelvinhall05]

2 hours ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

For games like BeamNG the 3770 will be better because of the 8 threads. 

Ok, but I found an i7-870 auction that is at ~$10 right now. It has 6 days left, should I bid?

EDIT: Kinda unrelated, but I found an i7-3960x on auction that is at ~$1 and also has 6 days left. Should I bid?