Cutting cost help???

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I'm soon buying parts for this pc, but I'm a reasonable amount over budget. 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/9BCxWX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/9BCxWX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£165.00 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£39.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot Signature Line 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£46.11 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£44.05 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB RS Video Card  (£184.26 @ More Computers) 
Case: Zalman ZM-T4 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£19.15 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£68.80 @ Alza) 
Total: £567.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-29 11:00 GMT+0000

I'd prefer to spend under £550 as a limit, and £500 is optimal. Short of deals or sales, what are some other ways to cut costs without impacting the performance too much, or the reliability (that's why I went SeaSonic). I guess I could buy used, but I'd prefer not to as this is my first build and I'm relatively new, so I want to have the warranty, and security of new parts. How could I cut cost?

[Droidbot]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£165.00 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£39.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot Signature Line 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£46.11 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£44.05 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB RS Video Card  (£184.26 @ More Computers) 
Case: Zalman ZM-T4 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£19.15 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£55.95 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £554.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-29 11:08 GMT+0000

 

Super Flower make very, very good PSUs. The GGHX is as good as that Seasonic unit but 450w, you can upgrade to a 550 if you want. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£165.00 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£39.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot Signature Line 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£46.11 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.94 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB RS Video Card  (£184.26 @ More Computers) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa H23  ATX Mid Tower Case  (£26.48 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£47.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £545.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-29 11:14 GMT+0000

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£165.00 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£39.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot Signature Line 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£46.11 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£44.05 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB RS Video Card  (£184.26 @ More Computers) 
Case: Zalman ZM-T4 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£19.15 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£55.95 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £554.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-29 11:08 GMT+0000

 

Super Flower make very, very good PSUs. The GGHX is as good as that Seasonic unit but 450w, you can upgrade to a 550 if you want. 

OK. I just hadn't heard of them so I wasn't too sure, the name sounded relatively suspicious but I'll go with them. Any other ideas for cutting cost??

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2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£165.00 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£39.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot Signature Line 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£46.11 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£35.94 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 4GB RS Video Card  (£184.26 @ More Computers) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa H23  ATX Mid Tower Case  (£26.48 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£47.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £545.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-29 11:14 GMT+0000

I'm pretty sure that's a tier 3 or 4 PSU on most lists, which was why I was avoiding it.

[Droidbot]

1 minute ago, Ethan Meskin said:

OK. I just hadn't heard of them so I wasn't too sure, the name sounded relatively suspicious. Any other ideas?

That's because they're an ODM (original design manufacturer) - they make PSUs that are rebranded by other manufacturers and sold. 

 

1 minute ago, Ethan Meskin said:

I'm pretty sure that's a tier 3 or 4 PSU on most lists, which was why I was avoiding it.

Doesn't really matter - it's not like after Tier 3 you see lots of gains. I power my system with a 520W Tier-3 Seasonic unit. That unit you suggested was Tier 4, so the CXM is good. I'd say the CXM since the Zalman case sucks ass

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, Ethan Meskin said:

I'm pretty sure that's a tier 3 or 4 PSU on most lists, which was why I was avoiding it.

That CXM is tier 3, it's a pretty good unit.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-cx650m-psu,4770.html

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4 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

That's because they're an ODM (original design manufacturer) - they make PSUs that are rebranded by other manufacturers and sold. 

 

Doesn't really matter - it's not like after Tier 3 you see lots of gains. I power my system with a 520W Tier-3 Seasonic unit. That unit you suggested was Tier 4, so the CXM is good. I'd say the CXM since the Zalman case sucks ass

The case I want is the source 210 or the 1100 but it was the cheapest so??

[Herman Mcpootis]

21 minutes ago, Ethan Meskin said:

The case I want is the source 210 or the 1100 but it was the cheapest so??

Can try thermaltake's versa cases, seems pretty good for a few pounds more.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

Can try thermaltake's versa cases, seems pretty good for a few pounds more.

OK. Would buying used RAM be an issue, I could also do it with the CPU and that would take the total down to like 490, so I could either stick with my stuff or get a better PSU/GPU/motherboard if I got what I want. Basically I might only have 500, but 550 is about how much I might get in a optimal scenario, so if I only got 500 I'd get this PC but if I got more I could upgrade some stuff? Should I buy that stuff used?

[Herman Mcpootis]

35 minutes ago, Ethan Meskin said:

OK. Would buying used RAM be an issue, I could also do it with the CPU and that would take the total down to like 490, so I could either stick with my stuff or get a better PSU/GPU/motherboard if I got what I want. Basically I might only have 500, but 550 is about how much I might get in a optimal scenario, so if I only got 500 I'd get this PC but if I got more I could upgrade some stuff? Should I buy that stuff used?

shouldn't have an issue, especially if the lifetime warranty is still active. used parts can be at a pretty good deal sometimes, i'd say try to find a used haswell i5/i7/xeon or x79+E5 2660-2670 cpu and mobo if it's cheap enough.

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29 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

shouldn't have an issue, especially if the lifetime warranty is still active. used parts can be at a pretty good deal sometimes, i'd say try to find a used haswell i5/i7/xeon or x79+E5 2660-2670 cpu and mobo if it's cheap enough.

I would get the exact same CPU, but for £40 less. I would still need to buy a cooler tho bcus the stock wasn't included? Cheap non overclocking cooler recommendations?

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, Ethan Meskin said:

I would get the exact same CPU, but for £40 less. I would still need to buy a cooler tho bcus the stock wasn't included? Cheap non overclocking cooler recommendations?

you'll need a cpu cooler no matter what, but on a non-k i5 any random cooler should suffice.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/3jTmP6/arctic-cooling-cpu-cooler-ucacoap11301bua01 something like this or even a cheapo used stock cooler for less.

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11 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

you'll need a cpu cooler no matter what, but on a non-k i5 any random cooler should suffice.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/3jTmP6/arctic-cooling-cpu-cooler-ucacoap11301bua01 something like this or even a cheapo used stock cooler for less.

will i then have to buy thermal paste? i was just going to use the stock cooler so i haven't researched this stuff?

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, Ethan Meskin said:

will i then have to buy thermal paste? i was just going to use the stock cooler so i haven't researched this stuff?

most cpu coolers will come with thermal paste so don't worry about it. that cooler has some already applied on it.

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1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

most cpu coolers will come with thermal paste so don't worry about it. that cooler has some already applied on it.

good, thanks. Will there be any worries with used cpu/ram? i'm buying from https://uk.webuy.com/search/index.php?stext=i5+&section=&refinecat=Intel+Processors&CategoryID=911,  which gives 2 year warranty so?? I dont know?

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, Ethan Meskin said:

good, thanks. Will there be any worries with used cpu/ram? i'm buying from https://uk.webuy.com/search/index.php?stext=i5+&section=&refinecat=Intel+Processors&CategoryID=911,  which gives 2 year warranty so?? I dont know?

you'll be fine, the cpu very rarely fails even with overclocking. 

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3 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

you'll be fine, the cpu very rarely fails even with overclocking. 

thanks, good to know