Upgrade Worth?

[emiae]

Hello,

 

My current build consists of:

Asus Rampage IV Extreme Black Edition

An Intel i7 4930k CPU

4x Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB 1600Mhz DDR3 RAM

2x GTX 1080 with HB SLI Bridge

 

I am planning want to go 1440p surround in the long run. (Just a side information)

 

Is it worth for me to upgrade my build into:

Asus Prime z270-A

Intel 7700k with

4x DDR4 RAM (my options are limited with Corsair Vengeance DDR4s)

 

a) Even if I don't go 1440p surround and go 4k?

b) If I go 1440p surround?

c) If I have the money, just to see an improvement in my system?

 

This is a new post in a long time, please don't thrash me if I give deficient or missing information.

 

Thank you for your time.

 

_{P.S: I have Corsair H115 Liquid Cooling system, if I change my CPU after cleaning the out of the box thermal paste, how much and which paste should I apply?}

 

 

 

 

[Kobathor]

You won't need to upgrade your platform and CPU to run games at 1440p. Your 4930k will do great, if anything all you'd need to do is overclock it and you'll get better performance.

[Wolther]

You won't see a huge difference honestly. Keep what you have, maybe upgrade to 16 gig ram. If all your doing is gaming then just keep this as it's still very top end for any kind of gaming 

[emiae]

10 minutes ago, Wolther said:

maybe upgrade to 16 gig ram

I'm sorry for putting out the total 4x8 GB So I already have 32 GB, hence I'm assuming you are telling me to keep everything as it is.

Thank you for your reply.

 

11 minutes ago, Kobathor said:

if anything all you'd need to do is overclock it

When I turn the X.M.P profile in BIOS, it sets CPU to Sync all cores, and RAM to 1600Mhz with DRAM Voltage at 1.5V but then I sometimes get BSOD.

Now I'm not so keen on overclock business that much, I can mess with BCLK but I'm not experienced enough to change the voltage for my CPU and RAM, I tried to do it manually rather than to set it to X.M.P, but couldn't dare when I saw the RAM going OVER 1600Mhz as I increased my BCLK. I read that if I want these RAM sticks from Corsair to run at 1600Mhz they shouldn't drop below 1,5V anytime so I thought I should set it to 1.550V or sth but then again I'm not sure if that would be ok since it is said to be tested at 1600Mhz and 1.5V.

 

TLDR; Since RAM sticks are 1600Mhz @1.5V when I overclock I get BSOD since I don't dare touch voltage. Can you guide me a little if you have time? Thank you!

 

Also what are your thoughts on 1440P surround, can my build handle it well on 144hz or 120hz?

Edited January 22, 2017 by emiae
added final question

[Mug]

After seeing your latest post, everything is about as good as it gets. A 7700k would be a downgrade too so don't do that.

[Kobathor]

3 minutes ago, emiae said:

When I turn the X.M.P profile in BIOS, it sets CPU to Sync all cores, and RAM to 1600Mhz with DRAM Voltage at 1.5V but then I sometimes get BSOD.

 

Now I'm not so keen on overclock business that much, I can mess with BCLK but I'm not experienced enough to change the voltage for my CPU and RAM, I tried to do it manually rather than to set it to X.M.P, but couldn't dare when I saw the RAM going OVER 1600Mhz as I increased my BCLK. I read that if I want these RAM sticks from Corsair to run at 1600Mhz they shouldn't drop below 1,5V anytime so I thought I should set it to 1.550V or sth but then again I'm not sure if that would be ok since it is said to be tested at 1600Mhz and 1.5V.

 

TLDR; Since RAM sticks are 1600Mhz @1.5V when I overclock I get BSOD since I don't dare touch voltage. Can you guide me a little if you have time? Thank you!

You change your CPU's frequency multiplier in your BIOS. Look on YouTube for tutorials on overclocking your CPU. I wouldn't change the voltage of anything unless you have a good cooler. If you have a good cooler and low voltage is holding you back, then push it up in tiny increments on your CPU, but leave your RAM alone.

 

As Mug said, a 7700k wouldn't be more performance anyways. Good luck on overclocking!

[emiae]

1 minute ago, Kobathor said:

You change your CPU's frequency multiplier in your BIOS. Look on YouTube for tutorials on overclocking your CPU. I wouldn't change the voltage of anything unless you have a good cooler. If you have a good cooler and low voltage is holding you back, then push it up in tiny increments on your CPU, but leave your RAM alone.

Shouldn't I be running it at 1600Mhz rather than 1333Mhz though?

 

Also what are your thoughts on 1440p surround? Can this build handle it well?

[Kobathor]

1 minute ago, emiae said:

Shouldn't I be running it at 1600Mhz rather than 1333Mhz though?

 

Also what are your thoughts on 1440p surround? Can this build handle it well?

Yes. It should be running at 1600Mhz. You said it crashes your system, which is extremely weird since running it at stock frequencies shouldn't make your PC unstable.

 

About your other question: Double 1080s should handle it okay. But, some games would of course be slow running at such a high resolution. I like the idea of ultrawide, but those monitors are expensive if you want nice gaming ones. Also, unless Simultaneous Multi Projection works for all games, the two side monitors would look stretched and ugly during gameplay.

[emiae]

21 minutes ago, Kobathor said:

About your other question: Double 1080s should handle it okay. But, some games would of course be slow running at such a high resolution. I like the idea of ultrawide, but those monitors are expensive if you want nice gaming ones. Also, unless Simultaneous Multi Projection works for all games, the two side monitors would look stretched and ugly during gameplay.

 

The reason why I asked for surround is I like the use of extra monitors when I don't play on surround. Since I already have a Rog Swift 27" I thought I'd buy a second one now and in the future maybe a third one. But that's in the future though.

 

Should I set the profile to XMP or should I manually set the RAM target to 1600mhz? I'll try to set them manually. Let's see where it gets us.

 

CPU OC is not necessary for higher resolution right? I mean it's more of a GPU thing?

 

Thank you for taking time to reply all my questions!

[Kobathor]

2 minutes ago, emiae said:

Should I set the profile to XMP or should I manually set the RAM target to 1600mhz? I'll try to set them manually. Let's see where it gets us.

Yeah, I'd try both.

3 minutes ago, emiae said:

CPU OC is not necessary for higher resolution right? I mean it's more of a GPU thing?

It will help your CPU address instructions more quickly, so that your GPUs can work harder to get all those sweet frames. Overclocking your graphics cards will provide more performance than overclocking your CPU, and it's also easier (all the nice 1080s can handle a good OC.) 

5 minutes ago, emiae said:

The reason why I asked for surround is I like the use of extra monitors when I don't play on surround. Since I already have a Rog Swift 27" I thought I'd buy a second one now and in the future maybe a third one. But that's in the future though.

That sounds super cool. Since you already have a 1440p monitor, it would probably be better to just get more of them, rather than changing to the expensive ultrawides.

[emiae]

40 minutes ago, Kobathor said:

It will help your CPU address instructions more quickly, so that your GPUs can work harder to get all those sweet frames. Overclocking your graphics cards will provide more performance than overclocking your CPU, and it's also easier (all the nice 1080s can handle a good OC.) 

all the nice 1080s? Mine are evga 1080 Founder's edition ones  i think you meant the non reference cooler ones?

[Kobathor]

1 minute ago, emiae said:

all the nice 1080s? Mine are evga 1080 Founder's edition ones  i think you meant the non reference cooler ones?

yes. but you should still be able to OC, just watch your temps

[emiae]

19 hours ago, Kobathor said:

yes. but you should still be able to OC, just watch your temps

Ok, thank you for yourtime and help! I appreciate your time!