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dezzu
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So i have FPS problems while gaming, CS:GO 50~FPS, H1Z1 20-30FPS, COD4 250FPS (with drops like 150, 170). Anyway i installed new GPU and since then i have problems with it, maybe PSU i not good enough for this gpu. My specs are: AMD Phenom ll X4 965 3.40GHz, AMD Radeon HD6970 2GB GDDR5, 4GB of ram, 500W PSU, Asrock 770 Extreme3. Old GPU: AMD Radeon HD6850 1GB GDDR5.
My HD6850 died, so i wanted to buy something similar, which i did --> HD6970. I bought it used but works fine (temp normal, not too loud, etc.), on my friend's PC worked normally. My HD6850 had one 6pin connector, HD6970 has 8pin and 6pin, so obv drags more power. Is it possible that PSU is not good enough and i actually get lower performance on better GPU? Thanks for respond and excuse my ENG! :)

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What's the PSU exactly ?

 Crust : Intel Core i5 4690K @ 4.4Ghz 1.45v  |  Motherboard : MSI Z97 MPower  |  Fruity Filling : MSI GTX 960 Armor 2Way-SLI |  Cooling : Noctua NH-D15  |  RAM : 16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz | Storage : 2xSamsung 840 EVO 500GB SSDs Raid-0  |  Power Supply : Seasonic X-Series 1250W 80+Gold  |  Monitor : Dell U2713HM 27" 60Hz 1440p  |                                                                                                                                           

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34 minutes ago, Juice-Box said:

Try downloading the newest drivers, as we as the newest version of Radeon software from here http://support.amd.com/en-us/download.

 

I already did.

40 minutes ago, Slippery Vagoo said:

have you tried using something like msi afterburner to see if it is a GPU bottleneck or CPU?

I will check now!

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1 minute ago, dezzu said:

Power TM LC6560GP3 500W

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 Crust : Intel Core i5 4690K @ 4.4Ghz 1.45v  |  Motherboard : MSI Z97 MPower  |  Fruity Filling : MSI GTX 960 Armor 2Way-SLI |  Cooling : Noctua NH-D15  |  RAM : 16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz | Storage : 2xSamsung 840 EVO 500GB SSDs Raid-0  |  Power Supply : Seasonic X-Series 1250W 80+Gold  |  Monitor : Dell U2713HM 27" 60Hz 1440p  |                                                                                                                                           

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Did you check your RAM Usage? 4GB is not much for gaming... I would install msi Afterburner and open the taskmanager to see what components hit cap.

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CPU: i7 4790 @3800 MHz, MB: MSI H87-G41, Grafik: Gigabyte GTX 1080TI, RAM: 2x 8GB DDR3 (1600), Storage: Samsung SSD 850 Evo

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1 minute ago, dezzu said:

I only have pic of it, if it helps. It's 5 yrs old.

 

Didn't it show any sines of trouble with the 6850 ?

 Crust : Intel Core i5 4690K @ 4.4Ghz 1.45v  |  Motherboard : MSI Z97 MPower  |  Fruity Filling : MSI GTX 960 Armor 2Way-SLI |  Cooling : Noctua NH-D15  |  RAM : 16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz | Storage : 2xSamsung 840 EVO 500GB SSDs Raid-0  |  Power Supply : Seasonic X-Series 1250W 80+Gold  |  Monitor : Dell U2713HM 27" 60Hz 1440p  |                                                                                                                                           

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4 minutes ago, dezzu said:

I only have pic of it, if it helps. It's 5 yrs old.

 

I'd suggest a replacement such as a CX450M which, unlike this PSU, would actually be able to deliver its suggested wattage. 

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8 minutes ago, Mike87 said:

Did you check your RAM Usage? 4GB is not much for gaming... I would install msi Afterburner and open the taskmanager to see what components hit cap.

I know but on HD6850 i had like 100-150FPS in cs:go, now i have 50..

 

8 minutes ago, LawrenceBarnes2013 said:

Didn't it show any sines of trouble with the 6850 ?

Nope..

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2 minutes ago, Juice-Box said:

Power consumption might be the key here, the 6850 has Significantly lower TDP around 127W vs the 250W of the 6970.

Wouldn't a power shortage crash the GPU instead of lowering the power? o.O

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1 minute ago, dezzu said:

I know but on HD6850 i had like 100-150FPS in cs:go, now i have 50..

 

Nope..

Im rocking an old Sapphire HD 7770, and this is the case for me. The last batch of driver updates wreaked absolute havok on my frames and I had to do some tweaking to get it back to where it wasnt stuttering. 

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5 minutes ago, dezzu said:

I know but on HD6850 i had like 100-150FPS in cs:go, now i have 50..

 

Nope..

On second thought it can't be the psu cause if it was it would have triggered the OCP, and the CPU can't be a bottleneck o i think it's the Graphics card.

 Crust : Intel Core i5 4690K @ 4.4Ghz 1.45v  |  Motherboard : MSI Z97 MPower  |  Fruity Filling : MSI GTX 960 Armor 2Way-SLI |  Cooling : Noctua NH-D15  |  RAM : 16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz | Storage : 2xSamsung 840 EVO 500GB SSDs Raid-0  |  Power Supply : Seasonic X-Series 1250W 80+Gold  |  Monitor : Dell U2713HM 27" 60Hz 1440p  |                                                                                                                                           

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1 minute ago, Juice-Box said:

Im rocking an old Sapphire HD 7770, and this is the case for me. The last batch of driver updates wreaked absolute havok on my frames and I had to do some tweaking to get it back to where it wasnt stuttering. 

Wish i know tweak mine haha, but i will do some research, maybe i can figure it out

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1 minute ago, LawrenceBarnes2013 said:

on second thought it can't be the psu cause if it was it would have triggered the OCP, and the CPU can't be a bottleneck o i think it's the Graphics card.

I will try run MSI afterburner and post ss here

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24 minutes ago, dezzu said:

I know but on HD6850 i had like 100-150FPS in cs:go, now i have 50..

 

Nope..

Read these parts:

26 minutes ago, Juice-Box said:

Power consumption might be the key here, the 6850 has Significantly lower TDP around 127W vs the 250W of the 6970.

TDP isn't power consumption, it's a measure of heat production. There's like a ~100W difference between the two. Also, 500W is plenty anyway. 

28 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

I'd suggest a replacement such as a CX450M which, unlike this PSU, would actually be able to deliver its suggested wattage. 

Please look at this, the PSU you currently have is pretty much a firecracker in a metal box. 

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4 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Read these parts:

TDP isn't power consumption, it's a measure of heat production. There's like a ~100W difference between the two. Also, 500W is plenty anyway. 

Please look at this, the PSU you currently have is pretty much a firecracker in a metal box. 

So what's your conclusion?

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7 minutes ago, dezzu said:

So what's your conclusion?

The listed wattage of 500W is more than enough to power the system, but the PSU probably is incapable of actually outputting that wattage. Do try using DDU to uninstall older drivers before installing the latest drivers that still support it. 

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10 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

The listed wattage of 500W is more than enough to power the system, but the PSU probably is incapable of actually outputting that wattage. Do try using DDU to uninstall older drivers before installing the latest drivers that still support it. 

I installed lates GPU drivers on fresh win10 like 3 days ago

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6 minutes ago, dezzu said:

I installed lates GPU drivers on fresh win10 like 3 days ago

Do you have any overclocking utilities? Also, it's just a good idea to use DDU and reinstall drivers just to eliminate a possibility. 

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