Noob water cooler!

[MVPernula]

Hello, people!

 

I'm interested in watercooling.

I have a GTX 1080 which runs at 80c pretty much at any game since I push 144hz, and an i7 5820k which never exceeds 60c (mostly 48-55).

 

80c is a bit too high imo, I don't feel comfortable having those temps so watercooling has come of interest.

 

Would a single 360 40mm radiator suffice for both CPU and GPU with improved temps?

SHOULD I consider also getting an aditional 240 40mm radiator?

 

I'm in an Corsair Air 540 so spacing wont be a problem.

 

Thanks!

[Zyndo]

5 minutes ago, MVPernula said:

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a single 360 is enough for a 5820k and 1080, even if they're overclocked. the tradeoff is just how much noise you want to have out of your system. the more radiator space you have, the slower you can run your fans and maintain the same amount of cooling. More, slower fans = less noise. More radiator space and more fans = more cost. entirely up to you which you prefer here.

 

Typically speaking, if you have the money to go full custom loop with a 5820k +1080, then you probably aren't going to notice the 100-ish dollar hit for an extra 240mm rad and some fans to go on it. If it were my system, I would populate pretty much every radiator spot I could in order to have the system as quiet as possible, although for aesthetic or monetary reasons you may disagree with me here.

[InsertName]

5 minutes ago, MVPernula said:

Hello, people!

 

I'm interested in watercooling.

I have a GTX 1080 which runs at 80c pretty much at any game since I push 144hz, and an i7 5820k which never exceeds 60c (mostly 48-55).

 

80c is a bit too high imo, I don't feel comfortable having those temps so watercooling has come of interest.

 

Would a single 360 40mm radiator suffice for both CPU and GPU with improved temps?

SHOULD I consider also getting an aditional 240 40mm radiator?

 

I'm in an Corsair Air 540 so spacing wont be a problem.

 

Thanks!

Have a look at the TDP of them, check the Thermal dissapation of the radiator, and kabow!

[Mick Naughty]

You should be fine with a single 360. Depending on the fans, they could be quieter then the 1080's fan at 100%.

 

Just be carful of the rads used when throwing them in an air540. Used several in mine and have configured it several different ways now.

[MVPernula]

11 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

You should be fine with a single 360. Depending on the fans, they could be quieter then the 1080's fan at 100%.

 

Just be carful of the rads used when throwing them in an air540. Used several in mine and have configured it several different ways now.

I'm using Corsair SP120!

2 hours ago, InsertName said:

Have a look at the TDP of them, check the Thermal dissapation of the radiator, and kabow!

Care to go more specific?

2 hours ago, Zyndo said:

a single 360 is enough for a 5820k and 1080, even if they're overclocked. the tradeoff is just how much noise you want to have out of your system. the more radiator space you have, the slower you can run your fans and maintain the same amount of cooling. More, slower fans = less noise. More radiator space and more fans = more cost. entirely up to you which you prefer here.

 

Typically speaking, if you have the money to go full custom loop with a 5820k +1080, then you probably aren't going to notice the 100-ish dollar hit for an extra 240mm rad and some fans to go on it. If it were my system, I would populate pretty much every radiator spot I could in order to have the system as quiet as possible, although for aesthetic or monetary reasons you may disagree with me here.

Very informative!

I'm a bot of a quiet freak, so based on what you say I need more rads with more fans in lower speeds for less noise.. Sounds logical.

Preferably at least a 240 and a 360 would do it in that case. I'm not made out of money, so that seems like a good sweetspot.

 

As I'm also aiming for aesthetics 2 rads should also be the way to go.

[Mick Naughty]

Running a 280 and 360 in mine.

 

A 1080, 4790k, ram, south bridge and vrm blocks too. The lowest I can set my fans are 40% which is still very quite for me.

 

Gpu sits around low 40's and cpu sits at 50~

 

A 240 and 360 will be fine. Just don't go too thick on the 360. 40-45mm max.

[MVPernula]

2 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Running a 280 and 360 in mine.

 

A 1080, 4790k, ram, south bridge and vrm blocks too. The lowest I can set my fans are 40% which is still very quite for me.

 

Gpu sits around low 40's and cpu sits at 50~

 

A 240 and 360 will be fine. Just don't go too thick on the 360. 40-45mm max.

Yeah the 1080 is a huge card, I don't think I could fit much more than a 40mm 360 rad.

 

Are those temps under load?

[Mick Naughty]

2 minutes ago, MVPernula said:

Yeah the 1080 is a huge card, I don't think I could fit much more than a 40mm 360 rad.

 

Are those temps under load?

Well I put the fans on the front of the case and put a 60mm in the front. My 1080 I have now is the same length as all my other cards.

 

Temps are under load on bf1.

[MVPernula]

1 minute ago, Mick Naughty said:

Well I put the fans on the front of the case and put a 60mm in the front. My 1080 I have now is the same length as all my other cards.

 

Temps are under load on bf1.

Yeah that's my thought. I know a 40mm would fit nicely. Though I'm not sure a 60mm would.

[Mick Naughty]

2 minutes ago, MVPernula said:

Yeah that's my thought. I know a 40mm would fit nicely. Though I'm not sure a 60mm would.

Depends, without something in the top sure, but if there is a rad on the top the fittings would need to be at the bottom and would refrain you from putting a hdd in that spot.

[MVPernula]

2 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Depends, without something in the top sure, but if there is a rad on the top the fittings would need to be at the bottom and would refrain you from putting a hdd in that spot.

Fair enough.

 

Ah I see, with the fittings on top I can't mount a rad there.

I could mount a 240 at the bottom though, correct? Mounting the reservoir on top.

Would that work? 
Getting off topic, just speculating.

[Mick Naughty]

Just now, MVPernula said:

Fair enough.

 

Ah I see, with the fittings on top I can't mount a rad there.

I could mount a 240 at the bottom though, correct? Mounting the reservoir on top.

Would that work? 
Getting off topic, just speculating.

You could fit a 40mm 360 up front and a240 on top.

 

As for the res, idk. I used a ek pump res combo. I drilled holes in the back using the supplied template so it kinda sat under my card near the vents. I put it in the back of my case after adding a second card though.

 

[MVPernula]

1 minute ago, Mick Naughty said:

You could fit a 40mm 360 up front and a240 on top.

 

As for the res, idk. I used a ek pump res combo. I drilled holes in the back using the supplied template so it kinda sat under my card near the vents. I put it in the back of my case after adding a second card though.

 

Yeah I feel like that's what I'm going for as well. (the combo that is)

 

Aren't there any sollutions (pump res combo) that you can mount on the rad?
I'm sure BITWIT did something like that, hold on.

 

 

THERE

[Mick Naughty]

There are plenty but you wont have much room. Unless you wonna do that with the top rad and have horizontal like that.

 

Unless you put the gpu in a lower pci slot then you could mount a shorter pump/res to the front rad in the normal vertical orientation.

[MVPernula]

2 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

There are plenty but you wont have much room. Unless you wonna do that with the top rad and have horizontal like that.

 

Unless you put the gpu in a lower pci slot then you could mount a shorter pump/res to the front rad in the normal vertical orientation.

Either that, or in the back like you!

 

Do you have any pictures of yours?

[Mick Naughty]

[Ryoku]

23 minutes ago, MVPernula said:

Yeah I feel like that's what I'm going for as well. (the combo that is)

 

Aren't there any sollutions (pump res combo) that you can mount on the rad?
I'm sure BITWIT did something like that, hold on.

 

 

THERE

You don't need to use 40mm rads, thicker rads are becoming a thing of the past with how power/thermal efficient components are becoming, unless your looking for pure min/maxing of Overclocks and temps (but to achieve that you'd need some serious rpms on fans).  I use 2 27.5mm darkside rads with noctua nf-f12 fans they run near slient at 60% rpm (below that i can't really tell the difference so i didn't see any need to run them lower), and that keeps everything under 60c ... and my 780 ti runs a lot hotter then a 1080. As for rad mounting yes, you can get brackets for mount pump/res combos to rads.

 

[Mick Naughty]

Wouldn't consider 40mm think at all. Also high fpi is a bad thing when it comes to sound. 

[Mick Naughty]

It is more about surface area then thickness. Also a poor comparison. I can do the same thing with a single 360 rad with a 3770k and titan black both over clocked, in a parallel loop, fans at 50% and be under 60c too. Could have two titan on the same loop with the fans at 80% and still be under 60c.

That's using af noctuas on a high fpi rad. Which is worst case scenario for me.

[MVPernula]

15 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

It is more about surface area then thickness. Also a poor comparison. I can do the same thing with a single 360 rad with a 3770k and titan black both over clocked, in a parallel loop, fans at 50% and be under 60c too. Could have two titan on the same loop with the fans at 80% and still be under 60c.

That's using af noctuas on a high fpi rad. Which is worst case scenario for me.

 

28 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Wouldn't consider 40mm think at all. Also high fpi is a bad thing when it comes to sound. 

 

30 minutes ago, Ryoku said:

You don't need to use 40mm rads, thicker rads are becoming a thing of the past with how power/thermal efficient components are becoming, unless your looking for pure min/maxing of Overclocks and temps (but to achieve that you'd need some serious rpms on fans).  I use 2 27.5mm darkside rads with noctua nf-f12 fans they run near slient at 60% rpm (below that i can't really tell the difference so i didn't see any need to run them lower), and that keeps everything under 60c ... and my 780 ti runs a lot hotter then a 1080. As for rad mounting yes, you can get brackets for mount pump/res combos to rads.

So you guys mean I can just go on something thinner than 40mm?

[Ryoku]

1 minute ago, MVPernula said:

 

 

So you guys mean I can just go on something thinner than 40mm?

Absolutely I'm using a 360mm 27.5mm thick and 240mm 27.5mm thick rads on my older less efficient hardware overlocked and my system is near silent.

[Mick Naughty]

3 minutes ago, MVPernula said:

 

 

So you guys mean I can just go on something thinner than 40mm?

If you can get them sure. I personally hate high fpi, so I find a good medium. 

[MVPernula]

4 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

If you can get them sure. I personally hate high fpi, so I find a good medium. 

yeah I want low noise.

[Mick Naughty]

1 minute ago, MVPernula said:

yeah I want low noise.

If you are going with more rads, then you can get away with higher fpi with lower speed fans. af fans make it a bit worse but still work. Id use sp fans for them though.

Or get a bit lower fpi rad and not care about the fan needed.