intel 4th gen i5 processor help

[OriGiNAlNamE5586]

I need a 4th gen processor as im short on cash and ik 4th gens work with my motherboard but i only have an I3 and im wanting an I5 6400 could anyone tell me if this will work with my motherboard

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-I5-6400-FC-LGA14C-Processor-BX80662I56400/dp/B010T6CG7E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483712997&sr=8-1&keywords=intel%2Bcore%2Bi5%2B6400&th=1

[Tech Wizard]

2 minutes ago, OriGiNAlNamE5586 said:

I need a 4th gen processor as im short on cash and ik 4th gens work with my motherboard but i only have an I3 and im wanting an I5 6400 could anyone tell me if this will work with my motherboard

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-I5-6400-FC-LGA14C-Processor-BX80662I56400/dp/B010T6CG7E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483712997&sr=8-1&keywords=intel%2Bcore%2Bi5%2B6400&th=1

Aaaaaand what is ur motherboard? Would be nice to know that

[OriGiNAlNamE5586]

Just now, Tech Wizard said:

Aaaaaand what is ur motherboard? Would be nice to know that

Sorry idk the actual motherboard name as its probably custom but its the one for the alienware alpha r1

[MorganO]

5 minutes ago, OriGiNAlNamE5586 said:

Sorry idk the actual motherboard name as its probably custom but its the one for the alienware alpha r1

whats the cpu already in it?

[OriGiNAlNamE5586]

3 minutes ago, KOMTechAndGaming said:

whats the cpu already in it?

i belive its this 

Intel® Core™ i3-4170T Processor Dual-Core (3MB Cache, up to 3.2 GHz)

dont quote me though im a noob who bought a prebuilt computer I dont have much knowledge in pc building yet all ik is its an 13 4th gen

[Tech Wizard]

10 minutes ago, OriGiNAlNamE5586 said:

Sorry idk the actual motherboard name as its probably custom but its the one for the alienware alpha r1

Is it this one?

 

https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-ASM100-1580-i3-4130T-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00MA7AMKY

[MorganO]

1 minute ago, OriGiNAlNamE5586 said:

i belive its this 

Intel® Core™ i3-4170T Processor Dual-Core (3MB Cache, up to 3.2 GHz)

dont quote me though im a noob who bought a prebuilt computer I dont have much knowledge in pc building yet all ik is its an 13 4th gen

nope the 6400 wont work in that mobo

[Himommies]

ALSO PSU

[OriGiNAlNamE5586]

1 minute ago, Tech Wizard said:

Is it this one?

 

https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-ASM100-1580-i3-4130T-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00MA7AMKY

yes it is

[Tech Wizard]

1 minute ago, OriGiNAlNamE5586 said:

yes it is

Other guy beat me to it. a 6400 won't work with that motherboard

[OriGiNAlNamE5586]

3 minutes ago, Tech Wizard said:

Other guy beat me to it. a 6400 won't work with that motherboard

damn do you have any recomendations for me id like a better processor if possible

[typographie]

4 minutes ago, OriGiNAlNamE5586 said:

i belive its this 

Intel® Core™ i3-4170T Processor Dual-Core (3MB Cache, up to 3.2 GHz)

dont quote me though im a noob who bought a prebuilt computer I dont have much knowledge in pc building yet all ik is its an 13 4th gen

Lately Intel has been changing their CPU sockets every other generation. The i5-6500 is sixth generation, and requires a different CPU socket that you don't have.

 

An i5-4460 would probably do the trick, though. It's slightly older and slightly slower than the 6500, but that isn't saying much these days.

[OriGiNAlNamE5586]

5 minutes ago, KOMTechAndGaming said:

nope the 6400 wont work in that mobo

damn do you have any recomendations for me id like a better processor if possible

[MorganO]

Just now, OriGiNAlNamE5586 said:

damn do you have any recomendations for me id like a better processor if possible

what the other guy said

[OriGiNAlNamE5586]

thanks for all the help guys

[typographie]

Does anyone know if the i5-4460 would have any issues in that console-ish Alienware system? I didn't realize that's what it was, and I only recommended the 4460 because it's a Haswell alternative to the 6500. Obviously the 4460 will fit the socket, but if they put an i3-4170T in the system before does that indicate any cooling or power limitations of the rest of the system?

[OriGiNAlNamE5586]

1 minute ago, typographie said:

Does anyone know if the i5-4460 would have any issues in that console-ish Alienware system? I didn't realize that's what it was, and I only recommended the 4460 because it's a Haswell alternative to the 6500. If they put an i3-4170T in the system before, does that indicate any cooling or power limitations of the rest of the system?

it has a cpu fan and a gpu fan aswell as the thermal paste id be using thats the only cooling it has

[typographie]

3 minutes ago, OriGiNAlNamE5586 said:

it has a cpu fan and a gpu fan aswell as the thermal paste id be using thats the only cooling it has

Yeah, all that is normal. I'm just worried that maybe the Intel CPU cooler you have is designed for a 35 Watt i3-4170T instead of an 84 Watt i5-4460. I'm kinda hoping someone who knows more about this kind of system than I do will chime in and say it's fine.

[OriGiNAlNamE5586]

1 minute ago, typographie said:

Yeah, all that is normal. I'm just worried that maybe the Intel CPU cooler you have is designed for a 35 Watt i3-4170T instead of an 84 Watt i5-4460. I'm kinda hoping someone who knows more about this kind of system than I do will chime in and say it's fine.

ohhhh got ya ok hopefully before i waste money lol

[OriGiNAlNamE5586]

3 minutes ago, typographie said:

Yeah, all that is normal. I'm just worried that maybe the Intel CPU cooler you have is designed for a 35 Watt i3-4170T instead of an 84 Watt i5-4460. I'm kinda hoping someone who knows more about this kind of system than I do will chime in and say it's fine.

i also know when i bough my sytem they had an i3 base model but others prebuilt with an i5 of some kind or an i7 i cant find the what ones they are anywhere and the alienware sight only lists the r2 newer version aswell as alot of people upgrading their cpus so ik its possible just need to know a good one to upgrade with

[typographie]

12 minutes ago, OriGiNAlNamE5586 said:

i also know when i bough my sytem they had an i3 base model but others prebuilt with an i5 of some kind or an i7 i cant find the what ones they are anywhere and the alienware sight only lists the r2 newer version aswell as alot of people upgrading their cpus so ik its possible just need to know a good one to upgrade with

Here are some others who have discussed the CPU upgrade potential of Alienware Alpha systems:

https://na.alienwarearena.com/ucf/show/224395/boards/general-1/ForumPost/upgrading-your-alienware-alpha-i3-your-options-and-the-reality

http://santini.io/blog/how-to-upgrade-and-improve-the-alienware-alpha

 

They seem to suggest it's not really worth the cost to upgrade the CPU when the GPU is also quite slow and which can't be upgraded. The amount of performance difference you see will vary—and I think newer games may care more about an i5 than the ones these sources were talking about two years ago—but ultimately I do think your GPU is going to affect your gaming performance far more than a new CPU would. The good news is that they do seem to indicate 84 Watt Haswell CPUs can be used in the system safely, so I guess it's not a compatibility issue.

[OriGiNAlNamE5586]

1 minute ago, typographie said:

Here are some others who have discussed the CPU upgrade potential of Alienware Alpha systems:

https://na.alienwarearena.com/ucf/show/224395/boards/general-1/ForumPost/upgrading-your-alienware-alpha-i3-your-options-and-the-reality

http://santini.io/blog/how-to-upgrade-and-improve-the-alienware-alpha

 

They seem to suggest it's not really worth the cost to upgrade the CPU when the GPU is also quite slow and which can't be upgraded. The amount of performance difference you see will vary—and I think newer games may care more about an i5 than the ones these sources were talking about two years ago—but ultimately I do think your GPU is going to affect your gaming performance far more than a new CPU would. The good news is that they do seem to indicate 84 Watt Haswell CPUs can be used in the system safely, so I guess it's not a compatibility issue.

i want the cpu upgrade more for the fact that id like to have recording on arma 3 rp servers for "go pro" footage for admin sits less for the gaming upgrade i can play games like the newest mirrors edge and all them new ones at 40-60 fps somehow so im happy with the gpu i have for now

[ace_cheaply]

According to newegg, it has a 130w psu.  The 860m pulls about 60 watts, which is fine with a 30w cpu, but not so good with an 80 watt cpu with the psu that you have.  I honestly don't think you should risk it, rather wait and save for a couple months and see what low budget options are available from the Zen release.  

[OriGiNAlNamE5586]

4 minutes ago, ace_cheaply said:

According to newegg, it has a 130w psu.  The 860m pulls about 60 watts, which is fine with a 30w cpu, but not so good with an 80 watt cpu with the psu that you have.  I honestly don't think you should risk it, rather wait and save for a couple months and see what low budget options are available from the Zen release.  

more like a year i need a new car first i was planning on using Christmas cash for it lol

[ace_cheaply]

You could try to pick a low power processor from the list, like the 35w 4570T or 4460T. http://ark.intel.com/products/family/75024/4th-Generation-Intel-Core-i5-Processors#@All