Which PC

[Woofly94]

Which PC should I buy, I play on 1080p 144hz, I'd like to utilize the 144hz, so want 100+ fps on max settings on every game.

 

i7 6700k 4.4 ghz overclock

16GB RAM 

3TB HDD

256GB M.2 SSD

Z170

GTX 1080

 

 

i7 6700k

16GB RAM

2TB HDD

240GB SATA SSD           

Z170

GTX 980Ti

 

i7 6700

16GB RAM

3TB HDD

256GB M,2 SSD

B150

GTX 1080

 

 

Which is best value for money? the first & last PC's are £250 and £200 more than the GTX 980Ti build.

[slightlyjaded]

my personal opinion. Downgrade the M.2 drive to 128 GB (use it as a boot drive) get a second drive for mass storage/ games even if it's a 2.5"ssd.

 

The 980Ti is a brilliant graphics card and will probably serve you well for AAA game for at least another 3 years, and downgrading after that (the 1080 might last 3 1/2)

 

After that your choice.

[Woofly94]

1 minute ago, slightlyjaded said:

my personal opinion. Downgrade the M.2 drive to 128 GB (use it as a boot drive) get a second drive for mass storage/ games even if it's a 2.5"ssd.

 

The 980Ti is a brilliant graphics card and will probably serve you well for AAA game for at least another 3 years, and downgrading after that (the 1080 might last 3 1/2)

 

After that your choice.

Well I'm currently using a GTX 1070 on an i5 4460 and 8GB of RAM, so I'm getting terrible performance from it, would it be a downgrade going to a GTX 980Ti with an i7 6700k?, is it really worth £250 more to get the 1080 instead of the GTX 980Ti?

[slightlyjaded]

not really, but why not keep the 1070 for the new build? I'd honestly think the 980ti would be a slight downgrade on the 1080 in some situations, but not many. The 1070 shouldn't be limiting you. Upgrading to a 1080 if you have slightly lesser hardware is just spending money IMO.

 

It depends on what you're playing. If you're playing a mmo or an open world game, then your cpu might be nerfing your performance. It might be worth logging the cpu load as opposed to the gpu load to see what's being run at max... I'd suspect the cpu.

[VengeanceGamer]

All those pc builds are overkill, unless if you want to run 1440p ultra settings. Also, you don't need 100+ fps, 60fps is good.

I recommend you to get a:

i5 6500

8gb ddr4 ram

1tb hdd

120gb sata 3 ssd

b150

gtx 1060

 

It is a great build for 1080p 144hz ultra settings on 60fps.

 

 

[Woofly94]

1 minute ago, slightlyjaded said:

not really, but why not keep the 1070 for the new build? I'd honestly think the 980ti would be a slight downgrade on the 1080 in some situations, but not many. The 1070 shouldn't be limiting you. Upgrading to a 1080 if you have slightly lesser hardware is just spending money IMO.

 

It depends on what you're playing. If you're playing a mmo or an open world game, then your cpu might be nerfing your performance. It might be worth logging the cpu load as opposed to the gpu load to see what's being run at max... I'd suspect the cpu.

I play CPU Intensive games, like GTA V and I'm losing out on 20fps+ just because my CPU can't keep up, I can't keep the GTX 1070 for new build because the 980ti build is pre-built

[Woofly94]

1 minute ago, VengeanceGamer said:

All those pc builds are overkill, unless if you want to run 1440p ultra settings.

I recommend you to get a:

i5 6500

8gb ddr4 ram

1tb hdd

120gb sata 3 ssd

b150

gtx 1060

 

Please do some more research.

 

 

 

I'm sorry but that's rude and very uneducated, so before you jump on the overkill bandwagon, I suggest you do your research.

 

 

These builds are not overkill at all, since a GTX 1080 can't even run GTA V maxed settings at 1080p.

[slightlyjaded]

Just now, Woofly94 said:

I'm sorry but that's rude and very uneducated, so before you jump on the overkill bandwagon, I suggest you do your research.

 

 

These builds are not overkill at all, since a GTX 1080 can't even run GTA V maxed settings at 1080p.

GTA isn't gpu dependant. It was one of the first of the new generation of games that could actually use a multi core cpu ( and my 5960x and 980 absolutely destroys most skylake builds.)

 

It was very dependant on how good your cpu was, and didn't pull massive amounts of data from the hard drive in most situations, which means it could be run from an old school platter drive. Your problem is your current cpu. If you're looking for an upgrade for this sort of game I'd recommend avoiding z170 and seeing if there's a comparable x99 system.

[Woofly94]

1 minute ago, slightlyjaded said:

GTA isn't gpu dependant. It was one of the first of the new generation of games that could actually use a multi core cpu ( and my 5960x and 980 absolutely destroys most skylake builds.)

 

It was very dependant on how good your cpu was, and didn't pull massive amounts of data from the hard drive in most situations, which means it could be run from an old school platter drive. Your problem is your current cpu. If you're looking for an upgrade for this sort of game I'd recommend avoiding z170 and seeing if there's a comparable x99 system.

I know, hence why I said I'm running very CPU intensive games, and I just told you my CPU is bottlenecking my GTX 1070 is games... the fact is the i7 6700k GTX 980Ti build is £250 cheaper than the i7 6700k GTX 1080 build, I want to know what you'd choose and why, there is no building these are the PC specs they are pre-built, and I'm also pretty sure your 5960x and GTX 980 would not destroy an i7 6700k GTX 1080 build.

[slightlyjaded]

Just now, Woofly94 said:

I know, hence why I said I'm running very CPU intensive games, and I just told you my CPU is bottlenecking my GTX 1070 is games... the fact is the i7 6700k GTX 980Ti build is £250 cheaper than the i7 6700k GTX 1080 build, I want to know what you'd choose and why, there is no building these are the PC specs they are pre-built, and I'm also pretty sure your 5960x and GTX 980 would not destroy an i7 6700k GTX 1080 build.

It isn't so much my spec destroying the computer you're looking at's spec, in certain games it does, but it requires a very cpu dependent game, Most fps games are not well optimised for multi core, and a skylake chip will beat out a x99 setup.

 

With these choices I'd recomend the 980ti build.

[Woofly94]

 

1 minute ago, slightlyjaded said:

It isn't so much my spec destroying the computer you're looking at's spec, in certain games it does, but it requires a very cpu dependent game, Most fps games are not well optimised for multi core, and a skylake chip will beat out a x99 setup.

 

With these choices I'd recomend the 980ti build.

Can you please stop talking to me like I'm a complete noob? I'm not, I just wanted peoples opinion, a 5960x and GTX 980 will not destroy any i7 6700k and GTX 1080 in any game at all, the only way a 5960x beats a i7 6700k is if you're doing graphic or simulation that use all the cores since single-core performance of the i7 6700k is miles better than the 5960x.

[slightlyjaded]

Just now, Woofly94 said:

 

Can you please stop talking to me like I'm a complete noob? I'm not, I just wanted peoples opinion, a 5960x and GTX 980 will not destroy any i7 6700k and GTX 1080 in any game at all, the only way a 5960x beats a i7 6700k is if you're doing graphic or simulation that use all the cores since single-core performance of the i7 6700k is miles better than the 5960x.

(cough) I run my 5960x @ 4.5Ghz... Even at spec on gta it benchmarks close to the same. Skylake can overclock, but to nowhere the same degree as x99.

 

This is just my opinion, and you're welcome to your own. This is sort of off topic, I've given you my recomendation, a 980 ti is not going to be the limiting factor playing gtaV.

[Woofly94]

Just now, slightlyjaded said:

(cough) I run my 5960x @ 4.5Ghz... Even at spec on gta it benchmarks close to the same

It doesn't matter what overclock you have, a GTX 1080 absolutely destroys a GTX 980, no matter what CPU you put with it, a i7 6700k GTX 1080 with out perform a 5960x and GTX 980 in any game, simply because the GTX 980 is nowhere near a GTX 1080 the CPU can not make up that 60% difference that a GTX 1080 is to a GTX 980

[slightlyjaded]

2 minutes ago, Woofly94 said:

It doesn't matter what overclock you have, a GTX 1080 absolutely destroys a GTX 980, no matter what CPU you put with it, a i7 6700k GTX 1080 with out perform a 5960x and GTX 980 in any game, simply because the GTX 980 is nowhere near a GTX 1080 the CPU can not make up that 60% difference that a GTX 1080 is to a GTX 980

You are entitled to your opinion.

[Woofly94]

Just now, slightlyjaded said:

You are entitled to your opinion.

It's not an opinion it's a fact, can you prove me wrong?, show me where a 5960x out performs a i7 6700k in games, let alone a GTX 980 out performing a GTX 1080.

[slightlyjaded]

9 minutes ago, Woofly94 said:

It's not an opinion it's a fact, can you prove me wrong?, show me where a 5960x out performs a i7 6700k in games, let alone a GTX 980 out performing a GTX 1080.

honestly, good luck finding someone who benchmarked those two independantly.

My point was that GTAV is far more cpu bound than GPU bound. especially when you do something that the computer doesn't expect.

A 1080 isn't going to see a significant performance jump over a 980ti, and definately not 250 dollars worth. Especially not on a game limited to 60 frames per second.

But hey, it's your money, good night. (it's 9:30, and I have to be up at 5 for work)

[Woofly94]

1 minute ago, slightlyjaded said:

honestly, good luck finding someone who benchmarked those two independantly.

My point was that GTAV is far more cpu bound than GPU bound. especially when you do something that the computer doesn't expect.

A 1080 isn't going to see a significant performance jump over a 980ti, and definately not 250 dollars worth. Especially not on a game limited to 60 frames per second.

But hey, it's your money, good night. (it's 9:30, and I have to be up at 5 for work)

I know GTA V is more CPU intensive, I swear I said that?, not sure what you mean limited to 60fps? I'm using a 144 hz monitor

[slightlyjaded]

Just now, Woofly94 said:

I know GTA V is more CPU intensive, I swear I said that?, not sure what you mean limited to 60fps? I'm using a 144 hz monitor

It might be grabbing settings from my monitor, but check your settings within GTAV, I'd swear it's limited to 60, 50, and 24HZ (cinematic don't you know) settings.

[Woofly94]

No I'm using 144hz on GTA V, there is only a fps lock if you have Vsync on or you're going full screen

[slightlyjaded]

Just now, Woofly94 said:

No I'm using 144hz on GTA V, there is only a fps lock if you have Vsync on or you're going full screen

that would be why...I run full screen.