Server build / PC upgrade help request

[devSparkle]

Hi everyone

 

Exactly two years ago, I made (assembled) the following mistake:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  (Purchased For €155.00) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For €265.90) 
Motherboard: Asus CROSSBLADE RANGER ATX FM2+ Motherboard  (Purchased For €144.00) 
Memory: Kingston Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (Purchased For €83.00) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For €100.80) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 380X 4GB Video Card  (Purchased For €265.90) 
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For €108.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For €72.00) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer  (Purchased For €17.20) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Monitor: BenQ GL2250HM 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  (Purchased For €113.00) 
Total: €1324.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-25 23:22 CET+0100

 

Two years later, I'm planning to build a small server, with the specs listed bellow. I noted during the research process that the Intel processor (G3258) is more powerfull in single-thread performance and performs better in a wide array of benchmarks than my current AMD processor (A10-7850K). This being said, should I consider switching my main mobo and CPU with the server's mobo and CPU? Are there any changes I should make to the internal components within the same price margin?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  (€71.90) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€84.75) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Red 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (€26.35) 
Storage: Samsung 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€64.65) 
Storage: Western Digital Red 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€68.65) 
Case: Corsair 100R Silent ATX Mid Tower Case  (€63.90) 
Power Supply: Corsair VS 350W ATX Power Supply  (€37.75) 
Total: €417.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-25 23:21 CET+0100

[gtx1060=value]

wait, so are you saying that you are scrapping ur old build for a new one and getting a server while you're at it?  or just switching out the mobo and cpu from the old one

[devSparkle]

1 minute ago, gtx1060=value said:

wait, so are you saying that you are scrapping ur old build for a new one and getting a server while you're at it?  or just switching out the mobo and cpu from the old one

No, I was planning to build a server. However, if the Intel processor I was going to buy for the server is better than my current AMD CPU in my main rig, then I'd place the new processor in my main rig, and move the AMD CPU to the server.

[devSparkle]

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[Aereldor]

5 hours ago, devSparkle said:

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Well, don't mean to rub it in, but your main rig is quite the mistake. I would move the CPU, motherboard, RAM, and power supply into your server. Replace the CPU, motherboard, RAM, and power supply in your main rig with this. Use your H100i AIO watercooler here. The Corsair CX600 is a very low-end power supply that is not suitable for the load of these components. Put it in the server.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€246.01 @ Amazon Espana) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€116.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  (€100.82 @ Amazon Espana) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 9 500W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€85.95 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €548.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-26 10:29 CET+0100

 

Here are the rest of the parts for your server. Use the stock cooler of the 7850k here. The 7850k will be on par with the G3258 as a server; perhaps better, depending on the tasks. I went with a 1TB HDD because I assume it'll be a fileserver of sorts.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Storage: Western Digital Blue 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€48.50 @ Amazon Espana) 
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€28.91 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €77.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-26 10:32 CET+0100

 

 

[devSparkle]

5 hours ago, Aereldor said:

Well, don't mean to rub it in, but your main rig is quite the mistake. I would move the CPU, motherboard, RAM, and power supply into your server. Replace the CPU, motherboard, RAM, and power supply in your main rig with this. Use your H100i AIO watercooler here. The Corsair CX600 is a very low-end power supply that is not suitable for the load of these components. Put it in the server.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€246.01 @ Amazon Espana) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€116.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  (€100.82 @ Amazon Espana) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 9 500W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€85.95 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €548.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-26 10:29 CET+0100

 

Here are the rest of the parts for your server. Use the stock cooler of the 7850k here. The 7850k will be on par with the G3258 as a server; perhaps better, depending on the tasks. I went with a 1TB HDD because I assume it'll be a fileserver of sorts.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Storage: Western Digital Blue 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€48.50 @ Amazon Espana) 
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€28.91 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €77.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-26 10:32 CET+0100

 

 

I'm still looking trough the CPU and it's performance in common benchmarks. Nevertheless, you stated that the CX600 is not suitable for these components, yet you pointed out a new replacement power supply with a lower energy throughput than the CX600.

[Aereldor]

33 minutes ago, devSparkle said:

I'm still looking trough the CPU and it's performance in common benchmarks.

 

Nevertheless, you stated that the CX600 is not suitable for these components, yet you pointed out a new replacement power supply with a lower energy throughput than the CX600.

On second thought- I'd recommend this instead. A Golden Green HX is a steal at that price. I didn't see it before, and it's cheaper too.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€246.01 @ Amazon Espana) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€116.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  (€100.82 @ Amazon Espana) 
Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€75.88 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €538.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-26 16:15 CET+0100

 

Please read the following carefully. It's important information.

 

The quality of a power supply is not determined by the amount of wattage it is rated to supply, nor its power efficiency rating. Newcomers to PC building usually assume the opposite. In several cases, this leads to their power supplies failing sooner because they opted for wattage/efficiency rating rather than quality, assuming that they are interchangeable. They are not, and this is important to remember. The following is even more important.

 

The quality of a power supply is determined by the quality of its components, accountability for individual capacitors and rectifiers through brand names, good thermal and electrical performance/tolerance, and craftsmanship that does not compromise the safety of a power supply.

 

The CX600 doesn't quite fit that description. Corsair themselves only rate the power supply to be safe at 30 degrees celsius under load. Unless you live in a freezer, your computer gets that hot already. This is the biggest problem. The components used are cheap, low-quality parts, and these power supplies are practically glued together.

 

Use this for future reference. It will educate you in the reliability of power supplies. On the other hand, your current rule of measuring power supply quality by wattage is sure to yield explosive results.

Here is a video taken after a Corsair CX600 exploded.

 

Incidents like this were frequent enough to spawn memes after the CX series' release-

 

[devSparkle]

4 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Please read the following carefully. It's important information.

 

The quality of a power supply is not determined by the amount of wattage it is rated to supply, nor its power efficiency rating. Newcomers to PC building often think so, and in several cases, this leads to their power supplies failing sooner because they opted for wattage/efficiency rating rather than quality, assuming that they are interchangeable.

 

The quality of a power supply is determined by the quality of its components, accountability for individual capacitors and rectifiers through brand names, good thermal and electrical performance/tolerance, and craftsmanship that does not compromise the safety of a power supply.

 

The CX600 doesn't quite fit that description. Corsair themselves only rate the power supply to be safe at 30 degrees celsius under load. Unless you live in a freezer, your computer gets that hot already. This is the biggest problem. The components used are cheap, low-quality parts, and these power supplies are practically glued together.

 

Use this for future reference-

Here is a video of a Corsair CX600 exploding.

 

Incidents like this were frequent enough to spawn memes after the CX series' release-

 

First of all, thanks you for the explanation post. Nevertheless, my server will be online 24-7 while my main rig is only on when I am present. This being said it would be a greater security risk to leave it on the server compared to my main rig.

[Aereldor]

3 minutes ago, devSparkle said:

First of all, thanks you for the explanation post. Nevertheless, my server will be online 24-7 while my main rig is only on when I am present. This being said it would be a greater security risk to leave it on the server compared to my main rig.

Replace it and throw it out entirely if you can, but your server won't put as much stress on the 12v rail. It's going to be a security risk anywhere, but it was built for basic computers like light fileservers and office PCs. People bust them when running high-end overclocking CPUs and gaming GPUs on them, both of which you'll have.

 

Also, I edited my post to include a much, much better power supply for your main rig, rather than that 500w L9 unit.