Need help building new machine.

[Michael.W]

I am sorting out all the components for my new computer i am going to build this will be only my second computer i have built by myself (before that my uncle did it) anyway as you will see from what i know i am doing i have money to burn so i am choosing to burn alot.

A couple of things you guys need to know is this system will be overclocked to the max i have done a little bit of overclocking on my current system but i cant fit a bigger air cooler in it so cant go any further hence the fact that this new system will also be completly watercooled. This will be my first watercooled pc so any tips you guys have that you think might be helpfull would be cool.

Well on to what i am getting.

Case -NZXT Phantom 820

CPU -i7 3970X LGA 2011

Motherboard -??

Ram -??

Graphics Card -nVidia GeForce Titan

Power Supply -Corsair AX1200i

Components - As you guys may notice i dont actually know what motherboard to get that is one of the resons i am posting here i need some sugestions on motherboards that would best suit that CPU graphics card combo. As for the ram i was hoping to use some of that watercooled Mushkin ram Linus used in his watercooling vidio but i cant find it if some one cant point me in the corret direction that would be awsome.

Watercooling - Now as you guys know i am watercooling averything graphics card/cpu and ram but what about the northbridge and southbridge on the motherboard do i need to watercool them or can i just leave the original heatsinks on it. (there is a chance i will watercool it even if i dont have to just for the sake of it)

Raidiators - The Phantom 820 can fit a fair few rads in it but im not sure how many i need here is a list of what can fit.

Top - 1x Dual 140mm (thickness restricted by rear rad)

Bottom - 1x Dual 140mm thickness unrestricted

Front - 1x 200mm (may not be able to fit but will only know once i have the case)

Rear - 1x 140mm (thickness restricted by top rad)

Im thinking i will only need the two dual 140mm rads i as going to get these https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/com...p?partid=13863[/url=https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=13863]

I dont think i will need any more but if i do just say.

Most if not all af the waterblocks i will be using will be EK brand due to the fact that i will be using uv coolant so the clear blocks will look awsome and they have great avalability here in New Zealand

Well thanks for any help you guys can give i am looking foward to hearing from you.

[fishymamba]

One piece of advise, go with the 3930K. The 3970K is not worth the extra ~$500.

For the motherboard, I have heard really good things about the Asus Rampage 4 Extreme. You can also water cool it if you like! I think koolance makes a waterblock for it.

Can't tell you anything about the Phantom 820, I have a Phantom 410 and it is great!

[Michael.W]

Well thanks for the help that asus motherboard looks awsome and im not going with that mushkin ram any more as i was looking at watercooling blocks and saw one for dominator ram but i didnt think you could watercool dominator ram but then i found out you can just remove the heatsink.

[Guest]

Well thanks for the help that asus motherboard looks awsome and im not going with that mushkin ram any more as i was looking at watercooling blocks and saw one for dominator ram but i didnt think you could watercool dominator ram but then i found out you can just remove the heatsink.

Why get dominator if you're going to remove the heatsink?

[Michael.W]

Ah well what would you recomend then the dominator ram is desighned to have the heatsick come off so it can be water cooled do you know of another choice that would be better?

[Testbuilds]

What are you using this for? Just gaming, and if so what games? Video editing? That'll help us out. You may not even need a 3930k, since an i5 is enough for gaming (unless you play Crysis 3, then i7 3770k)

[DavePC]

Hi Michael, welcome to the forums! I agree with the other members, if you are going to go X79 I would recommend the 3930k. As well, I don't really see a point to water cooling ram, Ram doesn't get very hot. If you would like to water cool your CPU or GPU however, that is a very good option. I am not a water cooling professional, so this is a build I came up for you, with the parts you have provided. For your motherboard, you can't water cool that, unless you downgrade to Z77. Also, what will you be using your computer for?

The only thing I would actually recommend liquid cooling would be the CPU and the GPU only..

http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/p/KcrJ

On a side note, the RAM is a bit expensive, but you wanted Dominator Platinum correct?

The Power Supply is honestly not needed if you are going to run one card..

Holy crap..prices in New Zealand are VERY expensive.

[Michael.W]

What are you using this for? Just gaming' date=' and if so what games? Video editing? That'll help us out. You may not even need a 3930k, since an i5 is enough for gaming (unless you play Crysis 3, then i7 3770k)[/quote']

Ya i want this machine to be able to run games like Farcry 3 and Crysis 3 maxed out on the triple screen setup im getting. The titan can do that cant it atleast i think it should be able to?

Hi Michael' date=' welcome to the forums! I agree with the other members, if you are going to go X79 I would recommend the 3930k. As well, I don't really see a point to water cooling ram, Ram doesn't get very hot. If you would like to water cool your CPU or GPU however, that is a very good option. I am not a water cooling professional, so this is a build I came up for you, with the parts you have provided. For your motherboard, you can't water cool that, unless you downgrade to Z77. Also, what will you be using your computer for? The only thing I would actually recommend liquid cooling would be the CPU and the GPU only.. [url']http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/p/KcrJ On a side note, the RAM is a bit expensive, but you wanted Dominator Platinum correct? The Power Supply is honestly not needed if you are going to run one card.. Holy crap..prices in New Zealand are VERY expensive.

About the ram water cooling im not sure the case will only have 4 fans from the rads so im a bit nervous not sure whether the airflow will be enough for the ram to stay cool by itself.

As for motherboard water cooling of the northbridge and southbridge just look at the link https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=17449

Dont worry about th power supply that i have listed i was always going to change it depending on wether i got 1 or 2 titan graphics cards

And yea it costs a bit to get the stuff here the exschange rate here is great here to it shouldnt cost this much but it does i think it may be cheaper for me to order from the states and get it shipped here.

[fredtechcheck]

I believe Kingston has water cooled ram. http://www.kingston.com/us/memory/hyperx/h2o And you dont need a after market heatsink in the chipset for the asus rampage... the chipset is like the ram in a way and it wont heat up us much.

[Michael.W]

I believe Kingston has water cooled ram. http://www.kingston.com/us/memory/hyperx/h2o And you dont need a after market heatsink in the chipset for the asus rampage... the chipset is like the ram in a way and it wont heat up us much.

Ya i know the chipset doesnt need that much cooling that part is more just to look awsome :)

As for the Kingston ram that actually looks really good i just found it before i looked here and found you mentioning it im still looking into it but i like it alot as i am currently using kingston hyper x ram in my current machine.

[Michael.W]

Oh forgot to mention that water cooling the chipset on the rampage IV extreme get rid of a fan thats on the chipset that can only ever be good. :)

[Travianw135]

Hi Michael, welcome to the forums! I agree with the other members, if you are going to go X79 I would recommend the 3930k. As well, I don't really see a point to water cooling ram, Ram doesn't get very hot. If you would like to water cool your CPU or GPU however, that is a very good option. I am not a water cooling professional, so this is a build I came up for you, with the parts you have provided. For your motherboard, you can't water cool that, unless you downgrade to Z77. Also, what will you be using your computer for?

The only thing I would actually recommend liquid cooling would be the CPU and the GPU only..

http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/p/KcrJ

On a side note, the RAM is a bit expensive, but you wanted Dominator Platinum correct?

The Power Supply is honestly not needed if you are going to run one card..

Holy crap..prices in New Zealand are VERY expensive.

You can water cool a bunch of X79 boards. More than Z77 where I've been looking, at least.

[Broseephus]

You need to get higher tier equipment.

[Art Vandelay]

For the motherboard, get a Gigabyte X79 UP5. It has amazing quality MOSFETs, great quality inductors, and a true 8 phase PWM.

Get a 3930k, though; the 3970X is overpriced.

For the RAM, just get a 2666 or 2800Mhz kit with a latency of 11 or less. If you want to watercool the RAM, get corsair Dominators.

For the coolant, get some Meyhems X1, or Mayhems Pastel. Singularity computers ran both through EK blocks for quite a long time without any problems.

For the rads, get XPSC RX series or Black Ice SR-1 rads. They are the best with quiet fans.

Your PSU is overkill. You could power the system easily on half that wattage.

[munchtime]

Personally i really love the asus formula IV cuz it's so beast looking and it wont bottleneck anything, it can go sli and if you are using a red or black theme it just looks beast

[m0n5t3r]

Hi Michael, I would recommend the ASUS Rampage 4 Extreme and judging by the parts you are looking into buying, money doesn't really seem like a factor (Lucky :P)

Also, for RAM I think some people have gone for the Corsair Dominator GT as there are custom blocks from EK.

As much as I like water cooling, I would never water cool the GTX Titan because the Shroud of the GPU just looks simply awesome.

[asusfan]

Since this is a second build and your going with liquid cooling, i would suggest something mangable, not over complicated, a Gen 3.0 Asus Sabertooth would be ideal m/board as its clean looking, bulletproof build quality and really good board without going over the top. Plus the Gen 3 supports Pci-e 3.0 perfect for the Graphics card your going to install.

I dont have any experience with other manufactures of m/boards so can only tell you advice based on my own experience and other peoples. I just think a ROG board would be too complicated unless you have been building systems for a while and have lots of o/c experience.

you could put the money into other things, a real good surrond sound speaker system would make gaming and movie experience so much better.

I also think all you would need is a top duel 240 rad.

If you want a custom water cooling you can get some cool front bay mounted resivoir's with duel pumps. (Alphacool)

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g30/c107/s152/list/p1/Liquid_Cooling-PC_Water_Cooling_Pumps-PumpResevoir_Combo-Page1.html

well thats a few suggestions, oh and like many other said i think a 1200w power supply is over the top, unless your going to go for Sli, still a good 850 should be fine, seasonic are good.

[Michael.W]

Hi Michael' date=' I would recommend the ASUS Rampage 4 Extreme and judging by the parts you are looking into buying, money doesn't really seem like a factor (Lucky :P) Also, for RAM I think some people have gone for the Corsair Dominator GT as there are custom blocks from EK. As much as I like water cooling, I would never water cool the GTX Titan because the Shroud of the GPU just looks simply awesome. [/quote']

I didnt think Dominator gt ram was that great compared to others or is it still verry good?

[Michael.W]

Oh and guys dont worry about the power supply i am unsure of how many graphics cards are going in it at this stage will probibly only know a couple of weeks out from buying everything so i will change dicide what i need then

[DavePC]

Michael, would appreciate if you tell us what you are using this build for. Gaming on what games? Video editing? Graphics production?

As I said before, liquid cooling RAM is not needed in my opinion.

Finally, for RAM you should look at this:

Quad Channel if you are using X79

DDR3-1600 is the sweet spot, you can't really tell a difference from 1600 to 2133 or higher.

CL9 - CL10 RAM would be optimal.

For your motherboard:

STAY WITH ASUS. I have been hearing that there are tons of problems with Gigabyte motherboards.

Power supply:

Stick with quality brands. SeaSonic, XFX (Uses Seasonic as OEM), Corsair, and Antec.

450 - 600W for single card

650 - 750W for double card

1000W+ for triple card

1500W + for quadruple cards

[Deleon.David]

dude, you should get the tj11 case just for the shits and giggles

[Michael.W]

Michael, would appreciate if you tell us what you are using this build for. Gaming on what games? Video editing? Graphics production?

I will be using it for games like Bioshock Infinate,FarCry 3,Cysis 3,Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4 when that comes out oh and Assassins Creed Black Flag but i dont think that will be to bad on the graphics cards. My brother also owns a GoPro though so he does a bit of vidio editing though editing is CPU intensive isnt it not so much GPU

As I said before, liquid cooling RAM is not needed in my opinion.

I am building custom airflow shouds around my rads to try and keep dust out of the case so there will be little to no airflow though the center of the case hence why everything is going to be watercooled i dont think there will be enough airflow to keep the ram cool even though it doesnt need much.

Finally, for RAM you should look at this:Quad Channel if you are using X79 DDR3-1600 is the sweet spot, you can't really tell a difference from 1600 to 2133 or higher. CL9 - CL10 RAM would be optimal.

Thanks for that now i know what im after.

For your motherboard: STAY WITH ASUS. I have been hearing that there are tons of problems with Gigabyte motherboards.

Currently have a gigabyte motherboard no problems but it doesnt matter anyway i have already decided on the Rampage IV Extreme

Power supply: Stick with quality brands. SeaSonic, XFX (Uses Seasonic as OEM), Corsair, and Antec.

450 - 600W for single card

650 - 750W for double card

1000W+ for triple card

1500W + for quadruple cards

Thanks for that info its just what i needed i currently have a Corsair GS600 so if i go 1 card i will use that and if i go with 2 i will upgrade and get somthing bigger.

[Michael.W]

Ok thats odd its put what i wrote it with the quote i didnt think it would do that.

[Michael.W]

dude' date=' you should get the tj11 case just for the shits and giggles[/quote']

I must be missing somthing here whats so funny about that? and anyway the window is on the wrong side for me.

[heineygoat]

You need to get higher tier equipment.

^This.. lol