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1 minute ago, Velvet Revolver said:

Poppy flower is natural. No need to get into this stupid debate anyhow.

Poppy flower is natural. Heroin is a synthetic derivative of it. That's like saying gasoline is natural, because it's made from oil, which is made from dead dinosaurs. Gasoline, much like heroin, is a human invention.

 

Using opiates and natural unprocessed poppy flowers to get high is one thing. Saying that's comparable to heroin is a misleading statement.

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LOL OK then yeah I am wrong. Misplaced the drug.

 

 

These are natural then, morphine, codeine and thebaine. Go have fun with those substances because they are natural. Have fun getting off them too.


Whats that other one I remember seeing on the tube years ago. People hunting down a specific bark of a tree to get high. Shrooms are natural too. LOL this can go on and on and on.

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5 minutes ago, Velvet Revolver said:

Tabacco and Poppy flower is natural. No need to get into this stupid debate anyhow. Please be informed.

It's misinformation.

5 minutes ago, Velvet Revolver said:

It is my estimate that its most likely Linus smoked cigs, judging solely on his appearence.

That's profiling.

 

Just now, Velvet Revolver said:

These are natural then, morphine, codeine and thebaine. Go have fun with those substances because they are natural. Have fun getting off them too.

Morphine is a naturally occurring substance in the poppy plant. We can derive many substances such as morphine and codeine from bacteria (insulin is one of the most known uses of the process). Heroin on the other hand is synthesized from the naturally derived/extracted morphine through chemical decomposition and synthesis such as the Gates Method.

 

1 hour ago, Dawson Wehage said:

no he kept money in there...

That wouldn't be a bad location actually.

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2 minutes ago, Velvet Revolver said:

LOL OK then yeah I am wrong. Misplaced the drug.

 

 

These are natural then, morphine, codeine and thebaine. Go have fun with those substances because they are natural. Have fun getting off them too.


Whats that other one I remember seeing on the tube years ago. People hunting down a specific bark of a tree to get high.

You know that nothing about natural is inherently safe right?

 

I'm not sure why you think we're all hippy natural lovers, but I believe in science based facts. You misspoke. Maybe that was accidental, and you meant natural opiates. Maybe not. I don't know. I was simply correcting you, when you said heroin was natural - it's not.

 

No one here was arguing that natural = good. In fact, chemicals are chemicals, whether they are natural or artificial. I feel confident in saying that most of us are well aware that LOTS of natural things will, as they say, "kill you dead".

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7 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

It's misinformation.

That's profiling.

 

Morphine is a naturally occurring substance in the poppy plant. We can derive many substances such as morphine and codeine from bacteria (insulin is one of the most known uses of the process). Heroin on the other hand is synthesized from the naturally derived/extracted morphine through chemical decomposition and synthesis such as the Gates Method.

 

That wouldn't be a bad location actually.

lol

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Just now, Dawson Wehage said:

lol

Each little cigarette "roll" could be bills in bundles of five. I would, though I don't smoke so my wife would kill me. Or worse, #couch.

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54 minutes ago, Velvet Revolver said:

Gates Synthesis for biosynthesis of morphine.

http://www.scs.illinois.edu/denmark/wp-content/uploads/gp/2006/gm-2006-1=31R.pdf

Common methods demonstrated in higher Biochem courses.

Refining morphine into heroin requires various inorganic compounds such as acetic anhydride, ammonia, and activated carbon that are otherwise not present in the plant itself.

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