Micro ATX Motherboard and general Build help

[Johnathon]

Building my first PC(that hopefully wont catch on fire) this coming February(Tax return time for us american's) and i have no clue if this is a good build or not, And obviously as the title points out, should i really be using a MicroATX Board. - http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9MFgQV

CPU

AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor

 

Motherboard

ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard

 

Memory

Mushkin Essentials 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory

Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

(12Gb's total, for light multitasking and ram intensive games)

 

Storage

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

 

GPU

Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card

 

Case(went cheap on it but supposedly still good quality)

Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case

 

Power Supply

EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

 

Optical Drive

Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer

 

Operating System

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit $40.00

 

Keyboard/Mouse

Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse

 

According to Pcpartpicker there are no incompatibilities with the hardware but i'm not sure because this is my first attempt at this, any help would be cool.

[AdamBGames]

4 minutes ago, Johnathon said:

Building my first PC(that hopefully wont catch on fire) this coming February(Tax return time for us american's) and i have no clue if this is a good build or not - http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9MFgQV

CPU

AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor

 

Motherboard

ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard

 

Memory

Mushkin Essentials 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory

Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

(12Gb's total, for light multitasking and ram intensive games)

 

Storage

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

 

GPU

Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card

 

Case(went cheap on it but supposedly still good quality)

Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case

 

Power Supply

EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

 

Optical Drive

Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer

 

Operating System

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit $40.00

 

Keyboard/Mouse

Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse

 

According to Pcpartpicker there are no incompatibilities with the hardware but i'm not sure because this is my first attempt at this, any help would be cool.

Ive had both that mobo and cpu, they will work fine with each other as all the bios updates that are required for that chip are preinstalled on the fm2+ platform

[Johnathon]

2 minutes ago, AdamBGames said:

Ive had both that mobo and cpu, they will work fine with each other as all the bios updates that are required for that chip are preinstalled on the fm2+ platform

One of my main concerns was that, thanks for the info. still a bit worried about how everything will fit on board.

[Herman Mcpootis]

i'd get this instead:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI H110M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($40.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($40.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 470 4GB Triple X Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ B&H) 
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer  ($13.88 @ OutletPC) 
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse 
Other: Win64P ($40.00)
Total: $583.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-28 05:41 EST-0500

[oskarha]

Get another CPU than that a10. I had an a10 6800k overclocked to 4.8 and it was bottlenecking my old gtx 660

Also, you are paying for integrated graphics that you won't use.

Try to squeeze in a skylake i3 if you can

[Johnathon]

Just now, oskarha said:

Get another CPU than that a10. I had an a10 6800k overclocked to 4.8 and it was bottlenecking my old gtx 660

Also, you are paying for integrated graphics that you won't use.

Try to squeeze in a skylake i3 if you can

i was thinking about going with a skylake I3. but changed over to the A10 Because 4.1 Ghz at quad core vs I3 Dual core at less then 3 Ghz is a better trade off (that or i have no clue how CPU's work.)

[oskarha]

1 minute ago, Johnathon said:

i was thinking about going with a skylake I3. but changed over to the A10 Because 4.1 Ghz at quad core vs I3 Dual core at less then 3 Ghz is a better trade off (that or i have no clue how CPU's work.)

I thought so too when I got mine over a ivy bridge i3 back in the day, I now regret that decision.

Not all MHz are equal so Richland amd CPUs have clock for clock per performance similar to conroe core 2 quads and the a10 does not have 4 full cores.

Learn more here:

 

[SCHISCHKA]

g-sync or free-sync monitor?

[oskarha]

I would go with what @herman mcpootis is suggesting

[Johnathon]

1 minute ago, oskarha said:

I would go with what @herman mcpootis is suggesting

I'd rather stick with the Nvidia card. This build - pcpartpicker.com/list/9hvm3F

[SCHISCHKA]

2 minutes ago, oskarha said:

a10 does not have 4 full cores

are you sure the A10 does not have full cores. its not the same as FX

[oskarha]

3 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

are you sure the A10 does not have full cores. its not the same as FX

It's still the same bulldozer architecture.

In windows it shows up with 2 cores 4 threads.

Trust me that CPU is bad.

[AdamBGames]

1 minute ago, SCHISCHKA said:

are you sure the A10 does not have full cores. its not the same as FX

The A10 is an APU which means some of its proccessing power is "locked" away to power better integrated graphics, but you are not using that. I would suggest getting an fx chip which doesnt have "locked" proccessing capability, or get an i3 from intel as they will be better for this application

[oskarha]

5 minutes ago, Johnathon said:

I'd rather stick with the Nvidia card. This build - pcpartpicker.com/list/9hvm3F

Get the rx470 it's much better than the 1050ti

[Johnathon]

Im trying to go for high clockspeed and atleast 4 cores, hence why i chose the A10 In the first place.

 

EDIT - Ninja'd by @oskarha

Edited November 28, 2016 by Johnathon

[oskarha]

1 minute ago, AdamBGames said:

The A10 is an APU which means some of its proccessing power is "locked" away to power better integrated graphics, but you are not using that. I would suggest getting an fx chip which doesnt have "locked" proccessing capability, or get an i3 from intel as they will be better for this application

What do you mean with locked?

I'm quite sure that if you take a look at the die of an a10 6800 it will essentially be a 4 core bulldozer with an igpu.

[AdamBGames]

1 minute ago, Johnathon said:

Im trying to go for high clockspeed and atleast 4 cores, hence why i chose the A10 In the first place.

The i3 has hyperthreading which simulates 4 cores, it will be fine for this application and will perform better, i went from the 6800k to the 6700k from intel and the difference was astronomical

[Johnathon]

1 minute ago, AdamBGames said:

The i3 has hyperthreading which simulates 4 cores, it will be fine for this application and will perform better, i went from the 6800k to the 6700k from intel and the difference was astronomical

well i alerady have a build setup also with an i3, Now all i want to know is should i really be putting all of this on a tiny MicroATX Board.

[Herman Mcpootis]

12 minutes ago, Johnathon said:

I'd rather stick with the Nvidia card. This build - pcpartpicker.com/list/9hvm3F

dude, you do realise that the rx 470 is much better than the 1050ti?

 

[AdamBGames]

1 minute ago, Johnathon said:

well i alerady have a build setup also with an i3, Now all i want to know is should i really be putting all of this on a tiny MicroATX Board.

It will be fine on an microATX board, but still, the A10 is a bad buy most of my games simply wouldnt run even with a gtx 960 or 970, including games like just cause 3 which with the a10 ran at 40fps and with my i7 ran at 200 fps with the same card

[AdamBGames]

2 minutes ago, AdamBGames said:

It will be fine on an microATX board, but still, the A10 is a bad buy most of my games simply wouldnt run even with a gtx 960 or 970, including games like just cause 3 which with the a10 ran at 40fps and with my i7 ran at 200 fps with the same card

Just to clarify, I wanted to make my a10 system a test bench but after seeing the difference i just gave the system to my sister

[Johnathon]

^ Lol.

Also FYI I plan on playing games like FSX With the PMDG 7378NGX and KSP, Not very intensive stuff and i'd rather go with whats cheap and what will not cross over the ram slots, that and i already use shadowplay (Nvidia's built in streaming program) and prefer its interface/low lag to OBS

[Johnathon]

Also can you dual channel 2 sticks of DDR3-2133 From the same brand but at 4 And 8 Gb's instead of both being the same capacity

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gp3zFd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gp3zFd/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($104.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: MSI H110M ECO Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($52.89 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($22.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card  ($139.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.89 @ OutletPC) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($18.88 @ OutletPC) 
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse 
Other: Win64P ($40.00)
Total: $553.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-28 06:16 EST-0500

[oskarha]

16 minutes ago, Johnathon said:

Also can you dual channel 2 sticks of DDR3-2133 From the same brand but at 4 And 8 Gb's instead of both being the same capacity

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gp3zFd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gp3zFd/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($104.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: MSI H110M ECO Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($52.89 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($22.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card  ($139.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.89 @ OutletPC) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($18.88 @ OutletPC) 
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse 
Other: Win64P ($40.00)
Total: $553.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-28 06:16 EST-0500

For dual channel the sicks have to be the same capacity