newbuild I got $2000 and need your help

[Moderp]

So, I am in college and currently have an MSI GS63VR but the thing is that this thing isn't that great. Hardrive freezes up constantly and the graphics fidelity isn't as insane as I thought it would be. I want to be able to game and do MUSIC production in the program called ABLETON. I was gonna get a macbook but due to recent releases from that piece of shit company I thought, hey wtf i'll just go back home to my love, windows. ANYWAY. I'm getting a credit reimburstment on the 16th and will have about $2000 to blow on a pc OR a laptop. I do like the portability but out of real seriousness. I don't even take the laptop anywhere so I am fine with getting a PC but I REALLY REALLY want a small one. Perferably mini itx. If ya'll can help me get the best for what I am going to be doing that would be great. Top priorities for me when using a computer is being able to use programs like Cinema4d, Ableton, Adobe Premiere and so forth for content creation. I just want it all to be in the smallest package as possible without treading the high numbers in heat. Anything helps. help me pls.

[noahsheldon81]

13 minutes ago, Moderp said:

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dm2gQV

Take a look at this. If you have any questions let me know. 

[Shiv78]

I got you. Give me a minute.

[Moderp]

4 minutes ago, noahsheldon81 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dm2gQV

Take a look at this. If you have any questions let me know. 

I got one thing. I recently went all the way in with SSD's and I cannot do anything that isn't SSD for production. When I make music, I need my samples to NOT buffer you know? I feel the SSD will rid that.

[noahsheldon81]

1 minute ago, Moderp said:

I got one thing. I recently went all the way in with SSD's and I cannot do anything that isn't SSD for production. When I make music, I need my samples to NOT buffer you know? I feel the SSD will rid that.

So do you already own a good sized SSD then?

[Moderp]

1 minute ago, noahsheldon81 said:

So do you already own a good sized SSD then?

no  but I can do with less storage overall as a sacrifice for more speed just as long as its over 500gb

[Shiv78]

All-out ballin rig. Sexy mITX with a 6700K, 1080, 32GB 2x 1TB SSDs, etc.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GjbNgL
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GjbNgL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($114.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($249.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($249.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($579.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case  ($64.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($63.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1983.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-27 20:21 EST-0500

[noahsheldon81]

2 minutes ago, Moderp said:

no  but I can do with less storage overall as a sacrifice for more speed just as long as its over 500gb

Got ya. 

Take a look at this. Only thing I did was take out all storage and put in a 1TB SSD.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Btr2bj

Overall ballin rig. 

[Moderp]

3 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

All-out ballin rig. Sexy mITX with a 6700K, 1080, 32GB 2x 1TB SSDs, etc.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GjbNgL
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GjbNgL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($114.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($249.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($249.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($579.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case  ($64.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($63.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1983.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-27 20:21 EST-0500

Everything sounds freaking fantastic but that power supply seems kinda low no? will i be fine in temps and will fans be loud due to low power max?

[Moderp]

2 minutes ago, noahsheldon81 said:

Got ya. 

Take a look at this. Only thing I did was take out all storage and put in a 1TB SSD.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Btr2bj

Overall ballin rig. 

you know the real difference between the 6700k and the 6800k? is it worth the other 2 cores? what benefits does it give

[noahsheldon81]

 

1 minute ago, Moderp said:

you know the real difference between the 6700k and the 6800k? is it worth the other 2 cores? what benefits does it give

Yea. So will you be doing any video editing or exporting? Or any after effects work? 

[Moderp]

no after affects but I will be exporting some videos at around 1080p nothing too crazy. I will also be doing renders in cinema4d probably with Octane though..

[noahsheldon81]

2 minutes ago, Moderp said:

no after affects but I will be exporting some videos at around 1080p nothing too crazy. I will also be doing renders in cinema4d probably with Octane though..

If you are exporting video or 3D renders then the extra cores will give you around a 30% increase in performance. Also, ANYTHING that can use more than 4 cores will benefit. The way software and things are moving, more and more things can take advantage of more than 4 cores. 2 more physical cores may not seem like a lot, but it makes a difference. 

[Moderp]

3 minutes ago, noahsheldon81 said:

If you are exporting video or 3D renders then the extra cores will give you around a 30% increase in performance. Also, ANYTHING that can use more than 4 cores will benefit. The way software and things are moving, more and more things can take advantage of more than 4 cores. 2 more physical cores may not seem like a lot, but it makes a difference. 

alright well in that case, I will factor this into the build. imma try to put both of these together and see the best of both. Thank you very much

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2620 V4 2.1GHz 8-Core Processor  ($407.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: ASRock X99E-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA2011-3 Narrow Motherboard  ($243.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($164.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($84.80 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card  ($579.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case  ($75.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair SF 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Corsair) 
Total: $1867.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-27 20:44 EST-0500

enough money left for a DAC or something for your music production.

[noahsheldon81]

6 minutes ago, Moderp said:

alright well in that case, I will factor this into the build. imma try to put both of these together and see the best of both. Thank you very much

Here is a much better build than the one I originally sent. This one has the 6800K AND the ballin graphics that the other person put in their build. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F7gDkT

[Moderp]

4 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2620 V4 2.1GHz 8-Core Processor  ($407.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: ASRock X99E-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA2011-3 Narrow Motherboard  ($243.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($164.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($84.80 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card  ($579.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case  ($75.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair SF 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Corsair) 
Total: $1867.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-27 20:44 EST-0500

what is the difference between intels traditional three tiers compared to their xeons? I know nothing of those

[Herman Mcpootis]

7 minutes ago, Moderp said:

what is the difference between intels traditional three tiers compared to their xeons? I know nothing of those

for intel's core series cpus, their i3s are dual cores with hyperthreading, their i5s are quad cores without hyperthreading and their i7s are quad cores with hyperthreading on the consumer side and 6-10 cores with hyperthreading on the enthusiast side. xeon E3s are just i5/7s with a few extra features like ECC memory support, while their E5/7s are server/workstation processors with 4 to over 20 cores and features like the usual ECC memory, multiple cpu support, extreme max. supported ram capacity(the xeon i recommended can go up to over 1.5tb ram), etc.

[Moderp]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

for intel's core series cpus, their i3s are dual cores with hyperthreading, their i5s are quad cores without hyperthreading and their i7s are quad cores with hyperthreading on the consumer side and 6-10 cores with hyperthreading on the enthusiast side. xeon E3s are just i5/7s with a few extra features like ECC memory support, while their E5/7s are server/workstation processors with 4 to over 20 cores and features like the usual ECC memory, multiple cpu support, extreme max. supported ram capacity(the xeon i recommended can go up to over 1tb ram), etc.

1tb ram lol wtf... I imagine that it does just as well for gaming too? or no

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, Moderp said:

1tb ram lol wtf... I imagine that it does just as well for gaming too? or no

yup, does just as well(won't scale past 4 cores but still won't have a major impact).

here's a review on the e5 2670 to show that these xeons can game well.

 

[Shiv78]

4 minutes ago, Moderp said:

what is the difference between intels traditional three tiers compared to their xeons? I know nothing of those

Most lower-end Xeons are i5/i7 equivalents, just without the integrated graphics. Usually high core count, no OCing, and lower clocks than i7s. Also support things like ECC, multi CPU, etc.

29 minutes ago, Moderp said:

Everything sounds freaking fantastic but that power supply seems kinda low no? will i be fine in temps and will fans be loud due to low power max?

550W is more than enough. Here is another option, with a 6800K/X99, at the expense of 500GB of storage. You can still go 2x1TB for like $90 over 2K

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/shr2bj
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/shr2bj/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($379.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: ASRock X99E-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA2011-3 Narrow Motherboard  ($243.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($579.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case  ($64.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($63.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1982.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-27 21:01 EST-0500

 

 

[Moderp]

9 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

yup, does just as well(won't scale past 4 cores but still won't have a major impact).

here's a review on the e5 2670 to show that these xeons can game well.

 

this is actually kinda insane... 

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, Moderp said:

this is actually kinda insane... 

the low price of that e5?

[Herman Mcpootis]

9 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

 

 

 

bro, he did say that he wants a mini-itx build.

[Moderp]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

the low price of that e5?

yeah ahah