95W Summit Ridge

[IAEInferno]

Is there a reason why the 8c/16t AMD Zen "Summit Ridge" is at 95w, they can't have a higher TDP for better performance or is there something that can't make it go above 95W and deliver more performance?

 

 

[SLAYR]

26 minutes ago, IAEInferno said:

Is there a reason why the 8c/16t AMD Zen "Summit Ridge" is at 95w, they can't have a higher TDP for better performance or is there something that can't make it go above 95W and deliver more performance?

 

 

Do you want more tdp? Then you get what the fx 9590 is at 220W. 

 

Performance has nothing to do with TDP, and with more efficient cpus you will see more increases in performance because they run cooler, so they can run at higher frequencies.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

49 minutes ago, IAEInferno said:

Is there a reason why the 8c/16t AMD Zen "Summit Ridge" is at 95w, they can't have a higher TDP for better performance or is there something that can't make it go above 95W and deliver more performance?

 

 

I don't think there will be "a" Summit Ridge, therefore I don't expect "a" TDP, but a handful of them.

[IAEInferno]

13 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

I don't think there will be "a" Summit Ridge, therefore I don't expect "a" TDP, but a handful of them.

There's gonna be a lot of 8c / 16t summit ridges?

 

 

[IAEInferno]

41 minutes ago, SLAYR said:

Do you want more tdp? Then you get what the fx 9590 is at 220W. 

 

Performance has nothing to do with TDP, and with more efficient cpus you will see more increases in performance because they run cooler, so they can run at higher frequencies.

 

@patrickjp93 hello is this true :D?

[SpaceGhostC2C]

1 minute ago, IAEInferno said:

There's gonna be a lot of 8c / 16t summit ridges?

 

 

Who knows?  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

If they followed Intel, there would be more than one. If they followed their FX practices, there could be at least two (95W and 125W, and they eventually launched 220W but i consider that factory OC chip a one-off). Both are big "ifs". Information will come when the chips get released.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

2 minutes ago, IAEInferno said:

@patrickjp93 hello is this true :D?

Yes and no. TDP itself is not a measure of performance. But for a given architecture, core count, etc (so basically the same chip), higher clocks and higher TDP go hand in hand, and when you OC your chip you most likely take it beyond its rated TDP.

[patrickjp93]

2 hours ago, IAEInferno said:

@patrickjp93 hello is this true :D?

@SLAYR More efficient does not necessarily mean higher clock speed ceilings. We saw this in how top overclocks dropped off after Sandy Bridge. Performance may go up overall because of IPC increases, but efficiency does not guarantee performance.

 

And the FX9590 was built on a crap architecture design. Power 8 has a 250W, 12-core, 4.7GHz flagship that is incredibly powerful in some workloads, even beating out the top Haswell and Broadwell Xeon SKUs.