Problems with Installing SSD

[Acrean]

Hey,

So I got a Samsung EVO 500gb and am trying to clone my HDD (which I just reset to a new windows 10) to the SSD using the Samsung Data Migration Tool which is giving an error for

       "An Error occurred during defragmentation Error Code 304000 [04a380]"

Any ideas on what I could be the problem

My thought is that the HDD is larger than the SSD but I can't find a way to shrink the HDD partition to something smaller

 

[johnny5c]

As long as the used space on the HDD is smaller than the SSD it shouldn't cause any problems, I just used the Samsung tool on a friends laptop and it copied the data from a 750GB HDD to a 250GB SSD without having to shrink the partition first.

[Acrean]

Thats a good sign then, but do you have any idea what could be causing the error?

[Eniqmatic]

Have you tried running the program as admin?

[Acrean]

Yep, it only allows you to run it as an admin

[Eniqmatic]

Can you secure wipe the new disk using Samsung Magician? Then try after that?

[Acrean]

It says I can't start a secure wipe, I'm guessing its because the drive is unallocated

[Eniqmatic]

No secure wipe should return it to factory state. When you took the drive out the box and plugged it in, did you format it or anything?

 

Also please quote when replying to people.

[Acrean]

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No secure wipe should return it to factory state. When you took the drive out the box and plugged it in, did you format it or anything?

 

Also please quote when replying to people.

Sorry new on the forums, I believe this is how I quote

When I took it out I just plugged it in and then tried using the Samsung Migration Tool

At the moment I just formatted the drive and am trying to use EaseUW Todo Backup to clone the drives

[Eniqmatic]

6 minutes ago, Acrean said:

Sorry new on the forums, I believe this is how I quote

When I took it out I just plugged it in and then tried using the Samsung Migration Tool

At the moment I just formatted the drive and am trying to use EaseUW Todo Backup to clone the drives

Good idea, was going to suggest it but wasn't sure if you wanted to stick with the Samsung tool.

[Acrean]

Alright so that worked but it made a 142.52Gb Healthy (Recovery Partition) and a 143.56 Gb Healthy (OEM Partition)

Is it okay to get rid of these and if so how would I do that?

[Captain_WD]

9 minutes ago, Acrean said:

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Hi there

 

Could you post screenshots of the way you see the SSD in Disk Management and in the manufacturer's tool? 

As @Eniqmatic suggested, the manufacturer tool should be able to bring the SSD back to the factory state. 

 

What's the drive's brand and model? It's still a good idea to run defragmentation tool on the HDD and shrink the partition before cloning it. It's even a better idea to make a fresh install of the OS on the SSD in order to avoid any and all driver and compatibility issues and problems such as the SSD being recognized as a HDD.

 

Captain_WD. 

[Acrean]

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Hi there

 

Could you post screenshots of the way you see the SSD in Disk Management and in the manufacturer's tool? 

As @Eniqmatic suggested, the manufacturer tool should be able to bring the SSD back to the factory state. 

 

What's the drive's brand and model? It's still a good idea to run defragmentation tool on the HDD and shrink the partition before cloning it. It's even a better idea to make a fresh install of the OS on the SSD in order to avoid any and all driver and compatibility issues and problems such as the SSD being recognized as a HDD.

 

Captain_WD. 

Here is screenshots of the Samsung Magician Tool along with the partitions in the Disk Manager

The Drive is a Samsung 850 EVO 500gb

[Captain_WD]

22 minutes ago, Acrean said:

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Are you using the latest version of the manufacturer's tool? I'd check if there's a newer version or a pending update on their website and install that. 

 

You should also be able to delete the SSD through Diskpart. 

 

Having such big recovery and OEM partitions isn't common. Did you do an upgrade from an older OS to this one? 

 

Captain_WD. 

[Acrean]

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Are you using the latest version of the manufacturer's tool? I'd check if there's a newer version or a pending update on their website and install that. 

 

You should also be able to delete the SSD through Diskpart. 

 

Having such big recovery and OEM partitions isn't common. Did you do an upgrade from an older OS to this one? 

 

Captain_WD. 

The data migration tool updated when I installed it and I checked the website which has the same version as its up to date one.

I upgraded to windows 10 from windows 7 or 8 ( I don't remember, I think it was 7).

EDIT: I've gone through and deleted the OEM and Recovery Partitions on the SSD through Diskpart, is there a way for me to combine the partition of the SSD on drive A with the unallocated one that I have now?

Nvm found out that I can extend the partition of Disk A

So I guess the only thing I need to know is if I can just format my HDD drive and if it will automatically boot off of the SSD

[Acrean]

So would it work to just format the HDD and leave the computer to boot off of the SSD or do I have to go into the boot menu of my bios to work through that.

One note I want to make is that I can't access my bios boot menu for some reason. The F12 key won't let me get into the boot menu and I'm not able to get to the UEFI through the windows startup menu.

Any suggestions or help would be appreciated

[Captain_WD]

1 hour ago, Acrean said:

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I'd first try booting off the SSD with the HDD gone from the PC before actually formatting it as if there are any issues you would still be able to boot with the HDD in. 

If everything goes as planned you should be able to access the HDD as a secondary storage drive, get any data off of it if you want and then either format it with a tool, from the OS, delete the partitions from Disk Management, use the clean function of Diskpart or simply write zeros to it. All of this will clean it from data and you will have an empty drive for your self. 

 

Were you able to get into BIOS before? Have you checked your manual for the correct button to press? Some computers have Delete, F1, Space or other buttons for this function. 

 

Captain_WD. 

[Acrean]

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I'd first try booting off the SSD with the HDD gone from the PC before actually formatting it as if there are any issues you would still be able to boot with the HDD in. 

If everything goes as planned you should be able to access the HDD as a secondary storage drive, get any data off of it if you want and then either format it with a tool, from the OS, delete the partitions from Disk Management, use the clean function of Diskpart or simply write zeros to it. All of this will clean it from data and you will have an empty drive for your self. 

 

Were you able to get into BIOS before? Have you checked your manual for the correct button to press? Some computers have Delete, F1, Space or other buttons for this function. 

 

Captain_WD. 

I'm in class at the moment but will disconnect the HDD and try to boot the computer without it to see if that will work

About the BIOS, I believe I was able to get into the boot menu a long time ago but haven't needed too in the past couple years so I don't know when the problem started. I have tried all of the F keys along with Delete and End to see if that could get me in but with no luck

[Acrean]

UPDATE: So I took out the HDD and the computer booted up fine to the SSD which is great but now that I'm bootibng to an SSD I noticed that the BIOS screen is taking forever to load, something like a minute and then once windows loads it takes 10 seconds or so to boot up is there any way to fix this or could it be a problem with my motherboard?

[Captain_WD]

11 hours ago, Acrean said:

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Try resetting your BIOS (if you are not doing any OC on any parts) as this will remove any settings or errors accumulated there.

 

You should be safe to delete any partitions from your old HDD. 

 

Let me know if you have any other questions! 

 

Captain_WD.