Help with new build?

[Trav_X]

Okay okay, I said the last thread a week or two ago would be the last. No, this probably isn't either. I've literally been looking at what kind of PC to build for over 9 months now, basically since last Christmas. So let's do this.

 

Goal of build: record 1080p 60fps and 21:9 1080p 60fps gameplay (with OBS), edit said videos, also working in some animation, 3D modeling, and light CAD stuff for fun. I'll probably throw in some Folding@Home just to make myself feel better. In the budget I have, I could easily get a 6700k + 1070, or a 6600k + 1070, but I'd like the threads and cores since I'm not going to be doing just solely gaming. I'll only be recording and playing at 1080p and 2560x1080, so thinking a 6GB 1060 will be good. I'm not using ShadowPlay, so my GPU usage will solely be on games. I'll probably also do some Twitch streaming eventually as well. I don't play AAA titles, the hardest game I play is GTAV which already maxes out 60 frames Medium-High settings on a 970M in my laptop hooked up to the 2560x1080. A 1060 will work wonders at this resolution, in the games I'll be recording like Smite, CSGO, TF2, Rocket League, Payday, Minecraft, etc. 

 

Please don't tell me to get a f***ing SSD. I honestly don't care, I've been using hard drives for a while and I'd rather spend my money on more storage then getting load times under 10 seconds. I don't care. I just boot my PC and I'm up in Windows in less than a minute anyways, so it doesn't matter. Maybe I'll upgrade in the future, but I could really care less when I'm trying to squeeze X99 into my budget. Also, the reason the 5820k is at $319.99 is cause MicroCenter sells it at that price constantly.

 

aesthetics aren't really important for me now. I already own an Orange 230T so I'll just use it. It'll be under my open air desk from IKEA, it's a sweet ass desk honestly but I can still see it if I want to but it's not like "on display" or anything like that.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($319.99) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler  ($24.34 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99M-GAMING 5 Micro ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($173.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB D5 6G Video Card  ($254.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Orange ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($34.62 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1062.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-15 23:07 EDT-0400

[Guest]

Agree on SSD. My 5400rpm laptop with fast boot enabled boots in 5 seconds.

So far I see no problem

[Trav_X]

Just now, dexxterlab97 said:

Agree on SSD. My 5400rpm laptop with fast boot enabled boots in 5 seconds.

So far I see no problem

Ikr, my MSI laptop has a 7200 RPM drive that boots to the Windows 10 login screen in less than 15 seconds. And after I log in, my automatically opening programs like Discord, Steam, and CAM are all up in less than 30 seconds.

[comicsansms]

Slapped in a SSD and made it cheaper, SSDs don't just make your OS boot quicker, they make everything quicker and are amazing. You will not know till you get an SSD how much you like SSDs

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($319.99) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme3 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($151.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($53.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Corsair Force LE 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($58.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($249.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Orange ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Integra M 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($88.88 @ OutletPC) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I REV 4.2 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1073.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-15 22:43 EDT-0400

[zMeul]

18 minutes ago, Trav_X said:

Please don't tell me to get a fucking SSD. I honestly don't care, I've been using hard drives for a while and I'd rather spend my money on more storage then getting load times under 10 seconds. I don't care. I just boot my PC and I'm up in Windows in less than a minute anyways, so it doesn't matter.

could not agree more 

 

on the build ...

drop the 212 EVO, if you OC it won't do you any good - get a bigger better cooler or get an AIO liquid cooler

go with a Broabwell-E - example: Core i7-6800K

as for that resolution, 2560x1080, not sure but GTX1060 won;t gonna cut it - so, go for a GTX1070 at least

[Energycore]

Seems like you're on the one hand asking for help and on the other reiterating that you will not change your choices, so I wouldn't know what to recommend.

[Trav_X]

10 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

Slapped in a SSD and made it cheaper, SSDs don't just make your OS boot quicker, they make everything quicker and are amazing. You will not know till you get an SSD how much you like SSDs

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($319.99) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme3 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($151.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($53.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Corsair Force LE 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($58.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($249.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Orange ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Integra M 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($88.88 @ OutletPC) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I REV 4.2 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1073.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-15 22:43 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($319.99) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme3 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($168.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Corsair Force LE 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($58.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB D5 6G Video Card  ($254.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Orange ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($64.48 @ NCIX US) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($34.62 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1127.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-15 22:54 EDT-0400

 

im willing to pay a little more for quality components so I changed a few things out

[Trav_X]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

Seems like you're on the one hand asking for help and on the other reiterating that you will not change your choices, so I wouldn't know what to recommend.

No no no, I just don't want people to recommend an SSD. I'm open to any suggestions on ANY  part of the build besides storage  

[Trav_X]

11 minutes ago, zMeul said:

could not agree more 

 

on the build ...

drop the 212 EVO, if you OC it won't do you any good - get a bigger better cooler or get an AIO liquid cooler

go with a Broabwell-E - example: Core i7-6800K

as for that resolution, 2560x1080, not sure but GTX1060 won;t gonna cut it - so, go for a GTX1070 at least

Well the 6800k is almost $60 more expensive for me, so I don't really want to go there. As well, I'm not really looking to overclock, 3.3ghz and 3.6 turbo is fine for me, my 5700HQ is a stock 2.8 and turbos to 3.5 so it'll be an upgrade for me. I don't have the budget to fit a $90 Watercooler. Also, a 970M is good enough for me at that resolution, and the 1060 is a lot better than that so I'm thinking it should be fine overall hopefully. I'm not looking to play like Crysis or Witcher or Hitman.

[Energycore]

Just now, Trav_X said:

No no no, I just don't want people to recommend an SSD. I'm open to any suggestions on ANY  part of the build besides storage  

Grab a PSU with a longer warranty and more silent operation

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rp8H99/corsair-power-supply-cp9020091na

 

And do upgrade the CPU cooling. AIO or big air like NH-D15 or Thermalright Le Grand Macho (fanless) + powerful fan.

 

Consider upgrading your RAM to 32GB if you're going to edit video in Adobe Premiere, and even if you're not, you can still shove the video into a RAMDisk for super smooth scrolling.

1 minute ago, Trav_X said:

Well the 6800k is almost $60 more expensive for me, so I don't really want to go there. As well, I'm not really looking to overclock, 3.3ghz and 3.6 turbo is fine for me, my 5700HQ is a stock 2.8 and turbos to 3.5 so it'll be an upgrade for me. I don't have the budget to fit a $90 Watercooler. Also, a 970M is good enough for me at that resolution, and the 1060 is a lot better than that so I'm thinking it should be fine overall hopefully. I'm not looking to play like Crysis or Witcher or Hitman.

If you don't want to OC, a better bet is a 8-core Xeon.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/XjZ2FT/intel-cpu-bx80660e52620v4

 

Notice that it still turbos up to 3.0 GHz and you can have it keep turbo speeds even on threaded workloads.

 

BTW, the Deepcool Gamaxx 400 CPU Cooler is considerably better than a 212 EVO and cheaper.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/hJFPxr/deepcool-cpu-cooler-gammaxx400

[Trav_X]

2 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Grab a PSU with a longer warranty and more silent operation

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rp8H99/corsair-power-supply-cp9020091na

 

And do upgrade the CPU cooling. AIO or big air like NH-D15 or Thermalright Le Grand Macho (fanless) + powerful fan.

 

Consider upgrading your RAM to 32GB if you're going to edit video in Adobe Premiere, and even if you're not, you can still shove the video into a RAMDisk for super smooth scrolling.

If you don't want to OC, a better bet is a 8-core Xeon.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/XjZ2FT/intel-cpu-bx80660e52620v4

 

Notice that it still turbos up to 3.0 GHz and you can have it keep turbo speeds even on threaded workloads.

 

BTW, the Deepcool Gamaxx 400 CPU Cooler is considerably better than a 212 EVO and cheaper.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/hJFPxr/deepcool-cpu-cooler-gammaxx400

I'd love to get the 8-core, but I'll try to see if I can even fit that into the budget and still get something like a 1060 or RX 480. That is super interesting tho, that Xeon. I've seen that gammaxx on PCPP, is it really that good? All of this stuff you're mentioning I WANT, but I don't know how to PAY for it  

[Energycore]

Just now, Trav_X said:

I'd love to get the 8-core, but I'll try to see if I can even fit that into the budget and still get something like a 1060 or RX 480. That is super interesting tho, that Xeon. I've seen that gammaxx on PCPP, is it really that good? All of this stuff you're mentioning I WANT, but I don't know how to PAY for it  

Don't trust me about the deepcool, trust the tomshardware review that has it perform on par with $50-60 CPU coolers.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-coolers,4181.html

 

My recommendation is to switch the stock fan out for a better one, like a Corsair ML / NF-F12/P12 / Fractal HP-12

[Trav_X]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

Don't trust me about the deepcool, trust the tomshardware review that has it perform on par with $50-60 CPU coolers.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-coolers,4181.html

 

My recommendation is to switch the stock fan out for a better one, like a Corsair ML / NF-F12/P12 / Fractal HP-12

Why switch fan? Acoustics? Performance? If it's something where I'll need to do it for performance or something then it'll cost more in the end then just a 212X or EVO.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2620 V4 2.1GHz 8-Core Processor  ($407.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler  ($24.34 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99M-GAMING 5 Micro ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($173.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($249.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Orange ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.83 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($34.62 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1134.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-15 23:14 EDT-0400

 

cheapest 8-core I could come up with.

[Energycore]

Just now, Trav_X said:

Why switch fan? Acoustics? Performance? If it's something where I'll need to do it for performance or something then it'll cost more in the end then just a 212X or EVO.

Mostly because the stock fan is a blue LED that clashes with some builds.

 

You can keep it and it will be a capable fan. Don't expect it to be the most silent, it will be just below the Hyper 212 EVO / X in terms of noise.

[Energycore]

4 minutes ago, Trav_X said:

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.83 @ OutletPC)

That PSU isn't great for the price, get one of these

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/sFfmP6/fractal-design-power-supply-fdpsuin3b450w

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/HkdFf7/rosewill-power-supply-capstoneg650