AMD Zen

[manlykeweaver465]

I was watching a video on the amd Zen and I they did a rendering test vs the i7 6950x at the same clock speed and same amount of cores and threads, and the Zen beat it by like a second, do you guys think that this will be true or is it just a biased test 

[FloRolf]

Source?

 

We can't say much about Zen but i'm kinda sure it won't be as fast as Broadwell IPC.

[ARikozuM]

I don't trust any tests by the companies themselves. I'd wait until the reviewers have samples.

[Imakuni]

12 minutes ago, manlykeweaver465 said:

I was watching a video on the amd Zen and I they did a rendering test vs the i7 6950x at the same clock speed and same amount of cores and threads, and the Zen beat it by like a second, do you guys think that this will be true or is it just a biased test 

Well, I don't doubt the rendering actually happened and Zen beat the 6950x. Doesn't mean it wasn't biased, though.

[bughtoo]

26 minutes ago, manlykeweaver465 said:

I was watching a video on the amd Zen and I they did a rendering test vs the i7 6950x at the same clock speed and same amount of cores and threads, and the Zen beat it by like a second, do you guys think that this will be true or is it just a biased test 

if its the same source as all the info about zen, it wasnt 6950x but stock(looked like locked one) 6900k (or at least specwise) 

[manlykeweaver465]

1 hour ago, bughtoo said:

if its the same source as all the info about zen, it wasnt 6950x but stock(looked like locked one) 6900k (or at least specwise) 

oh okay i wasnt sure which cpu but i just new it was an 8 core 

 

[bughtoo]

1 minute ago, manlykeweaver465 said:

oh okay i wasnt sure which cpu but i just new it was an 8 core 

 

the 6950x is 10 core  

[DrMikeNZ]

10 minutes ago, manlykeweaver465 said:

oh okay i wasnt sure which cpu but i just new it was an 8 core 

I remember the news on that did not specify which 8 core, but as BW-E only has one 8 core SKU it was implied that it was a 6900K. They did however specify the clock speed which was lower than the 6900K at stock. Either they got their hands on a borked engineering sample or they underclocked a 6900K or disabled 2 cores and turbo on a 6950X. Either way, what they were trying to demonstrate with that presentation was the IPC of the chip, not the overall performance. We still have no idea what its max clock speed and efficiency will be when released. If the IPC can truly match BW-E and the Zen 8 core chip can happily get to >4.2 GHz without melting, then it will be a very interesting.

 

Never trust any benchmark that is written or run by the manufacturer.

[HKZeroFive]

I would remain highly skeptical. AMD has the notorious history of presenting disappointing products (Bulldozer for instance) and there are a number of factors regarding their own benchmark that may suggest it was not a completely neutral one. The microarchitecture looks promising and I hope Zen does well but it may not be what it seems.

 

AnandTech has a great write-up on this (TL;DR - wait for benchmarks): http://www.anandtech.com/show/10585/unpacking-amds-zen-benchmark-is-zen-actually-2-faster-than-broadwell

[CAPCOM UK]

I like the word optimistic and that is how i describe my feelings towards AMD ZEN.