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[Skybound]

Hi, so I currently want to give my system a face lift in terms of hardware and I'm about certain I want to start with the motherboard. I currently have an Intel Core i5 4460 and am undecided whether I should go for an Intel Core i7 4790K or use the money and go for Skylake i5 6500K. Thing is, I recently bought a 16GB kit of DDR3 ram and want to stay with DDR3 for now. I need help deciding which plan to go for considering I want to stay with DDR3. Because of my case (Fractal Design Node 804) this limits my motherboard choice to only Micro ATX. I mainly plan to play games and a bit of streaming. Thanks.

 

Current Parts:

Motherboard - Gigabyte ga-b85m-d3v

CPU - Intel Core i5-4460

GPU - MSI GTX 750 Ti (Plan to upgrade)

Ram - Crucial Ballistix Sport 16 GB DDR3

Case - Fractal Design Node 804

[rn8686]

4 minutes ago, Skybound said:

Hi, so I currently want to give my system a face lift in terms of hardware and I'm about certain I want to start with the motherboard. I currently have an Intel Core i5 4460 and am undecided whether I should go for an Intel Core i7 4790K or use the money and go for Skylake i5 6500K. Thing is, I recently bought a 16GB kit of DDR3 ram and want to stay with DDR3 for now. I need help deciding which plan to go for considering I want to stay with DDR3. Because of my case (Fractal Design Node 804) this limits my motherboard choice to only Micro ATX. I mainly plan to play games and a bit of streaming. Thanks.

 

Current Parts:

Motherboard - Gigabyte ga-b85m-d3v

CPU - Intel Core i5-4460

GPU - MSI GTX 750 Ti (Plan to upgrade)

Ram - Crucial Ballistix Sport 16 GB DDR3

Case - Fractal Design Node 804

Budget and location/currency? Don't bother with upgrading you CPU, especially if you want to re-use your ram. The only thing you can upgrade to is an i7, which wont be that much better than an i5 in gaming. Upgrade your GPU first, perhaps the RX 480 or 1060 depending on your budget. 

[Uptivuptiz]

If the budget fits get a 1070

[Skybound]

1 minute ago, rn8686 said:

Budget and location/currency? Don't bother with upgrading you CPU, especially if you want to re-use your ram. The only thing you can upgrade to is an i7, which wont be that much better than an i5 in gaming. Upgrade your GPU first, perhaps the RX 480 or 1060 depending on your budget. 

I live in US and have about $700 for parts. My plan was to use about $100 on motherboard, about $300 on a CPU, and about $300 for a new GPU. I was looking at the MSI Gaming X 1060 but with the current inflated prices I went to looking at the CPU first.

[rn8686]

1 minute ago, Skybound said:

I live in US and have about $700 for parts. My plan was to use about $100 on motherboard, about $300 on a CPU, and about $300 for a new GPU. I was looking at the MSI Gaming X 1060 but with the current inflated prices I went to looking at the CPU first.

I would just save the extra $400 and put it to something else. The amount of performance you would gain from upgrading to a Skylake i5 would be negligible, definitely not worth $400. 

[Uptivuptiz]

3 minutes ago, Skybound said:

I live in US and have about $700 for parts. My plan was to use about $100 on motherboard, about $300 on a CPU, and about $300 for a new GPU. I was looking at the MSI Gaming X 1060 but with the current inflated prices I went to looking at the CPU first.

I would just use 'bout 450$ on a GTX 1070  CPU is not a bottleneck.

[Skybound]

2 minutes ago, simonbyrial said:

I would just use 'bout 450$ on a GTX 1070  CPU is not a bottleneck.

Any board partner version that you recommend? I have a Node 804 so it is a bit of a small case.

[Skybound]

4 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

I would just save the extra $400 and put it to something else. The amount of performance you would gain from upgrading to a Skylake i5 would be negligible, definitely not worth $400. 

Cool. Thank you so much!!

[Uptivuptiz]

Just now, Skybound said:

Any board partner version that you recommend? I have a Node 804 so it is a bit of a small case.

ASUS, MSI, Asrock, Gigabyte is great!

[Skybound]

Just now, simonbyrial said:

ASUS, MSI, Asrock, Gigabyte is great!

Ok cool, thanks so much!!

[Uptivuptiz]

3 minutes ago, Skybound said:

Ok cool, thanks so much!!

If you need anything else just message me and I'll see what i can do.  

[Skybound]

1 minute ago, simonbyrial said:

If you need anything else just message me and I'll see what i can do.  

Definitely will do!

[Uptivuptiz]

7 minutes ago, Skybound said:

Definitely will do!

By the way. Nice profile picture #Nisekoi  

[MVPernula]

28 minutes ago, simonbyrial said:

If the budget fits get a 1070

 

23 minutes ago, simonbyrial said:

I would just use 'bout 450$ on a GTX 1070  CPU is not a bottleneck.

 

19 minutes ago, Skybound said:

Cool. Thank you so much!!

Pretty sure a 4460 bottlenecks a 1070 if an overclocked 4690K does it.

 

For 144Hz that is. Bit it's still a bottleneck.

 

[SaladFingers]

24 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

I would just save the extra $400 and put it to something else. The amount of performance you would gain from upgrading to a Skylake i5 would be negligible, definitely not worth $400. 

I second this. The CPU upgrade wouldn't make much of a difference, most of the time. I'd stick with the 4460 and throw a 1070 in there, if you could get one for a normal price.

 

To be honest, I wouldn't even upgrade the motherboard. To OP: What is it that you're looking for in a motherboard upgrade? More features?

[SaladFingers]

2 minutes ago, MVPernula said:

 

Pretty sure a 4460 bottlenecks a 1070 if an overclocked 4690K does it.

 

For 144Hz that is. Bit it's still a bottleneck.

 

 

That's probably at 1080p. 100+ fps on 1080p is hard in some games because there is a CPU bottleneck, but it's mostly about the smaller resolution and not about the CPU being bad. My gtx1080 is occasionally bottlenecked by my 5820k (which is OCed to 4.5ghz) in 1080p resolution. 

[Skybound]

6 minutes ago, SaladFingers said:

I second this. The CPU upgrade wouldn't make much of a difference, most of the time. I'd stick with the 4460 and throw a 1070 in there, if you could get one for a normal price.

 

To be honest, I wouldn't even upgrade the motherboard. To OP: What is it that you're looking for in a motherboard upgrade? More features?

I was mainly looking for more USB connectivity, SLI support, overclocking ability, things of that nature.

[Skybound]

14 minutes ago, simonbyrial said:

By the way. Nice profile picture #Nisekoi  

Thx

[SaladFingers]

Just now, Skybound said:

I was mainly looking for more USB connectivity, SLI support, overclocking ability, things of that nature.

I see. Well, overclockability is a bit of a marketing thing.. Have you tried overclocking on your current motherboard and it doesn't hold up? Can't argue with more USB ports though... But I would advise against SLI personally. Too many headaches to get everything you want to work properly.

 

I'd still spend most of my budget on a GPU, given that the CPU is enough for your general needs (is it, actually?). Make sure your PSU is of good quality and has enough power and you should be good to go. What about your storage? Do you have an SSD? Do you have enough space for your stuff? 

[MVPernula]

7 minutes ago, SaladFingers said:

 

That's probably at 1080p. 100+ fps on 1080p is hard in some games because there is a CPU bottleneck, but it's mostly about the smaller resolution and not about the CPU being bad. My gtx1080 is occasionally bottlenecked by my 5820k (which is OCed to 4.5ghz) in 1080p resolution. 

There's no way a 1080 is bottlenecked by a 5820K

[SaladFingers]

Just now, MVPernula said:

There's no way a 1080 is bottlenecked by a 5820K

Trust me, in 1080p, it gets bottlenecked from time to time. FOr such a low resolution, a gtx1080 is simply "too fast" and has to "wait" for the CPU in several occasions. Once I raised the resolution, the GPU usage would go back to near full and I'd either get slightly better performance, or exactly the same. Google it, it's a thing.

[Skybound]

1 minute ago, SaladFingers said:

I see. Well, overclockability is a bit of a marketing thing.. Have you tried overclocking on your current motherboard and it doesn't hold up? Can't argue with more USB ports though... But I would advise against SLI personally. Too many headaches to get everything you want to work properly.

 

I'd still spend most of my budget on a GPU, given that the CPU is enough for your general needs (is it, actually?). Make sure your PSU is of good quality and has enough power and you should be good to go. What about your storage? Do you have an SSD? Do you have enough space for your stuff? 

I've tried overclocking but can't get it stable enough. My PSU is an EVGA GS 550W so it's more than fine for what I need it for. Current CPU is fine for what I currently do. I only have a 1 TB WD Caviar Blue 7200RPM hard drive at the moment. I plan on buying a 256gb ssd from Samsung to put my OS and the main programs I use often

[SaladFingers]

1 minute ago, Skybound said:

I've tried overclocking but can't get it stable enough. My PSU is an EVGA GS 550W so it's more than fine for what I need it for. Current CPU is fine for what I currently do. I only have a 1 TB WD Caviar Blue 7200RPM hard drive at the moment. I plan on buying a 256gb ssd from Samsung to put my OS and the main programs I use often

Yep, definitely grab an SSD. There is huge value for the performance jump you will get. If you haven't used an SSD before, your jaw is going to drop at the difference!  

 

PS: Have you seen what other's get with your CPU? Maybe it's jsut that you reached your processor's limits rather than having stability issues with the motherboard.

[Skybound]

1 minute ago, SaladFingers said:

Yep, definitely grab an SSD. There is huge value for the performance jump you will get. If you haven't used an SSD before, your jaw is going to drop at the difference!  

So I've heard but just hadn't believe it until I used my friends pc but to be fair he has an M.2 ssd so it's not gonna be as fast as his but I would expect it to be faster than my hard drive.

[MVPernula]

Just now, SaladFingers said:

Trust me, in 1080p, it gets bottlenecked from time to time. FOr such a low resolution, a gtx1080 is simply "too fast" and has to "wait" for the CPU in several occasions. Once I raised the resolution, the GPU usage would go back to near full and I'd either get slightly better performance, or exactly the same. Google it, it's a thing.

For the 1080 to wait for th 5820K means it has to be at a 100% load on the CPU, which is not even nearly the case in any title or setting with that setup. After googling I couldn't find anything about this, can you send me your link?