Gt72vr temps

[Bion1985]

So what's an acceptable gpu temp for a gtx 1070 laptop? I'm sitting at around 82c

[D2ultima]

82c doing what? Are your fans at max?

[Bion1985]

Playing games, fans are not max but set to auto. Never owned a gaming notebook till now so don't know what's acceptable. 

[D2ultima]

On 9/1/2016 at 9:27 AM, Bion1985 said:

Playing games, fans are not max but set to auto. Never owned a gaming notebook till now so don't know what's acceptable. 

The lowest you can get is acceptable. You really should quote people you reply to so they get a notification. I would use max fans if I were you for gaming.

[Bion1985]

8 hours ago, D2ultima said:

The lowest you can get is acceptable. You really should quote people you reply to so they get a notification. I would use max fans if I were you for gaming.

Sorry for missing the quote on my last post. I'll try to tweak fans some and see if that can lower the temps a bit. New with laptops for gaming and also not 100% sure what thermals for a 10 series card are. I know my 980ti in my desktop can hit 78-80c in some games.

[Pendragon]

11 minutes ago, Bion1985 said:

Sorry for missing the quote on my last post. I'll try to tweak fans some and see if that can lower the temps a bit. New with laptops for gaming and also not 100% sure what thermals for a 10 series card are. I know my 980ti in my desktop can hit 78-80c in some games.

Temps should be more than fine. That chassis was designed for 1080 or 1070 SLI.

[D2ultima]

42 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

Temps should be more than fine. That chassis was designed for 1080 or 1070 SLI.

53 minutes ago, Bion1985 said:

Sorry for missing the quote on my last post. I'll try to tweak fans some and see if that can lower the temps a bit. New with laptops for gaming and also not 100% sure what thermals for a 10 series card are. I know my 980ti in my desktop can hit 78-80c in some games.

Well, Pascal is extremely dependent on temperatures. You can't compare it to maxwell. At 68c, it starts throttling, and throttles generally in increments going up. Mobile pascal, however, tends to throttle well below base clocks before hitting the actual thermal throttle point of 93c. This is why many models like the MSI GS43VR sit at 84-86c and yet perform about on par with a single 980M, which it should be a solid 25-30% faster than, with the utmost ease.

 

What you should do is fiddle with your fan control software and see how your card handles itself. What are your clockspeeds at 82c? Are you properly boosting? You should be sitting around or higher than your "boost" reads in GPU-Z. If you're near base clock or below it, your machine isn't functioning correctly. You might want to repaste the card, or fiddle with the fan speeds, or both.

 

Also, I think you're confusing this user's GT72VR with the GT73VR, Pendragon

[Pendragon]

12 minutes ago, D2ultima said:

Also, I think you're confusing this user's GT72VR with the GT73VR, Pendragon

Yes I am. LOL. RIP me. 

[Bion1985]

59 minutes ago, D2ultima said:

Well, Pascal is extremely dependent on temperatures. You can't compare it to maxwell. At 68c, it starts throttling, and throttles generally in increments going up. Mobile pascal, however, tends to throttle well below base clocks before hitting the actual thermal throttle point of 93c. This is why many models like the MSI GS43VR sit at 84-86c and yet perform about on par with a single 980M, which it should be a solid 25-30% faster than, with the utmost ease.

 

What you should do is fiddle with your fan control software and see how your card handles itself. What are your clockspeeds at 82c? Are you properly boosting? You should be sitting around or higher than your "boost" reads in GPU-Z. If you're near base clock or below it, your machine isn't functioning correctly. You might want to repaste the card, or fiddle with the fan speeds, or both.

 

Also, I think you're confusing this user's GT72VR with the GT73VR, Pendragon

I'll have to check clock speeds next time I'm gaming on it and recheck the temps.

[D2ultima]

1 minute ago, Bion1985 said:

I'll have to check clock speeds next time I'm gaming on it and recheck the temps.

Okay, sounds good. Let us know. And then you can use the MSI dragon center to fiddle with your fans. Hope you have a headset though.

[Bion1985]

14 hours ago, Pendragon said:

12 hours ago, D2ultima said:

Okay, sounds good. Let us know. And then you can use the MSI dragon center to fiddle with your fans. Hope you have a headset though.

Alright so at anywhere between 78-82c I get boost clocks anywhere between 1650 and 1790mhz roughly. 

[Bion1985]

12 hours ago, D2ultima said:

Okay, sounds good. Let us know. And then you can use the MSI dragon center to fiddle with your fans. Hope you have a headset though.

Sorry if my quote messed up, having trouble posting on my mobile phone. 

[D2ultima]

28 minutes ago, Bion1985 said:

Alright so at anywhere between 78-82c I get boost clocks anywhere between 1650 and 1790mhz roughly. 

Seems pretty okay. What about bumping up fans? And what's your CPU temps/speed looking like?

[Bion1985]

7 minutes ago, D2ultima said:

Seems pretty okay. What about bumping up fans? And what's your CPU temps/speed looking like?

Not tried bumping the fans up yet, I need to look into the Dragon Center and figure out how that all works. As for the cpu it seems to be around 62-65c didn't happen to look at the speed but I figured it was good cause those temps are alright I believe. 

[D2ultima]

Just now, Bion1985 said:

Not tried bumping the fans up yet, I need to look into the Dragon Center and figure out how that all works. As for the cpu it seems to be around 62-65c didn't happen to look at the speed but I figured it was good cause those temps are alright I believe. 

Okay. What about the load you were putting it under? What game or scenario did you use? And was it in an A/C room or not? I'm just trying to understand the heat profile etc.

 

Also, did you limit your FPS at all? 

[Bion1985]

3 minutes ago, D2ultima said:

Okay. What about the load you were putting it under? What game or scenario did you use? And was it in an A/C room or not? I'm just trying to understand the heat profile etc.

 

Also, did you limit your FPS at all? 

I've been playing world of warcraft legion since it just came out so all my initial findings were based off that. So today when I checked clocks that's how I did it. Cpu was at like 30% (but think that was total usage most likely one core was working nearly full load) I got a 50% load on the gpu (and also noticed by having higher settings in game caused higher temps but also produced better performance because boost clocks when much higher) was using a utlra/high graphics settings with cmaa and render scale at 150. Using gsync+vsync so fps was capped at 60fps my refresh rate.

[Bion1985]

Also tried overwatch similar settings same results.

 

Also rooms about 27c

[don_svetlio]

3 minutes ago, Bion1985 said:

Also tried overwatch similar settings same results.

Pascal is simply hot as fuck. Don't worry, that's normal. It's not good but normal. Keep temps under 90*C at most

[D2ultima]

10 minutes ago, Bion1985 said:

I've been playing world of warcraft legion since it just came out so all my initial findings were based off that. So today when I checked clocks that's how I did it. Cpu was at like 30% (but think that was total usage most likely one core was working nearly full load) I got a 50% load on the gpu (and also noticed by having higher settings in game caused higher temps but also produced better performance because boost clocks when much higher) was using a utlra/high graphics settings with cmaa and render scale at 150. Using gsync+vsync so fps was capped at 60fps my refresh rate.

60fps at 82c is not good. Render scale 150 from 1080p would be somewhere around 2880 x 1620 which is decently high of a resolution, but 82c is still extremely hot for that.

 

I'd suggest figuring out your fan profile, and if you could run max fans and check in overwatch or WoW with Gsync off and uncapped FPS, let me know. Basically, I'm wanting to use you as a guinea pig of sorts to test the GT72VR with a 1070, as I won't be able to get my hands on one myself and do my own testing, which I really wish I could do.

[Bion1985]

3 minutes ago, D2ultima said:

60fps at 82c is not good. Render scale 150 from 1080p would be somewhere around 2880 x 1620 which is decently high of a resolution, but 82c is still extremely hot for that.

 

I'd suggest figuring out your fan profile, and if you could run max fans and check in overwatch or WoW with Gsync off and uncapped FPS, let me know. Basically, I'm wanting to use you as a guinea pig of sorts to test the GT72VR with a 1070, as I won't be able to get my hands on one myself and do my own testing, which I really wish I could do.

I'll see what I can do when I'm home from work. With those settings I seemed to stay more around 78c I I remember correct 

[D2ultima]

Just now, Bion1985 said:

I'll see what I can do when I'm home from work. With those settings I seemed to stay more around 78c I I remember correct 

Ok, well let me know. Higher refresh rates heat up things quite a bit more. Also your screen should be at 75Hz; I'm not sure why you're at 60Hz.

[Redemption77]

3 hours ago, D2ultima said:

Ok, well let me know. Higher refresh rates heat up things quite a bit more. Also your screen should be at 75Hz; I'm not sure why you're at 60Hz.

I had that problem with the 60hz. It is 60 hz out of the box, and no G-sync,  and though the game is running at a high fps, the screen still looked like poo. What I did was go to MSI support and download the new BIOS ( E17851MS.10D ). Sure enough, I get 75hz and everything just smoothed out and looks amazing. Also, as far as temps, I just click the fan boost button and I get 65 max on GPU. My only prob with it is I can't find a freaking backpack to put it in.lol  

[Bion1985]

2 hours ago, D2ultima said:

Ok, well let me know. Higher refresh rates heat up things quite a bit more. Also your screen should be at 75Hz; I'm not sure why you're at 60Hz.

There's no option in Windows or in the Nvidia control panel for 75hzqt0ps4y0fdsc9@marketplace.amazon.com. two options are 60hz and 40hz

[Bion1985]

2 minutes ago, Bion1985 said:

There's no option in Windows or in the Nvidia control panel for 75hzqt0ps4y0fdsc9@marketplace.amazon.com. two options are 60hz and 40hz

You have the g752vr Dominator Pro with the gtx 1070? I'll have to check my bios version. I know I looked on msi website and they only have one bios up for download. Surprised there a update since it just released.