1070 lower performance than expected?

[Chris929]

First off specs are,

GTX 1070 FE

FX 8350 stock

M5A97

8 GB RAM

250 GB SSD

1TB SSHD

 

So I recently got my new GTX 1070 the other day as an upgrade from my R9 290, and I was expecting massive gains. I know the 8350 will bottleneck the 1070 to a degree being it is an older lower end CPU, but I seem to have much lower performance than most people I'm seeing online with the same or similar setups (same CPU/GPU). I'm getting in some cases around 50-60fps in BF4 on ultra, and around 45-60fps on GTA 5 maxed out without MSAA. I'm running a 2560x1080 monitor and run my games at that native resolution. Once again I understand the 8350 will be a bottleneck in CPU intensive titles (but come on the 1070 is supposed to edge out a freakin Titan X!), I'm just hoping I could get some feedback and maybe some troubleshooting tips because I'm finding it hard to find any real solutions online, thank you everyone I love you guys!

[PCGuy_5960]

Sorry m8.... That FX CPU bottlenecks the crap out of the 1070.... Even an i5 bottlenecks it... 

[xDanielxOossiex]

You can't expect full gpu usage if you combine a GTX1070 with any FX Cpu.

[PCGuy_5960]

My recommendation is to save some money and upgrade to an i7....

Preferably one of the following:

1. 6700K
2. 4790K
3. 5820K (and above)
4. 6800K (and above)

Then you will be able to use the 1070 to its full potential... 

[Chris929]

Just now, xDanielxOossiex said:

You can't expect full gpu usage if you combine a GTX1070 with any FX Cpu.

I know I won't get full usage, I'm upgrading to a 6th gen i7 soon, but like i said i seem to be getting sub par performance compared to other people with similar setups to me. At this point my 1070 isn't doing much better than my old 290

[xDanielxOossiex]

Just now, Chris929 said:

I know I won't get full usage, I'm upgrading to a 6th gen i7 soon, but like i said i seem to be getting sub par performance compared to other people with similar setups to me. At this point my 1070 isn't doing much better than my old 290

How much is the performance difference?

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Chris929 said:

I know I won't get full usage, I'm upgrading to a 6th gen i7 soon, but like i said i seem to be getting sub par performance compared to other people with similar setups to me. At this point my 1070 isn't doing much better than my old 290

You know what that screams?

BOTTLENECK

The 290 was probably bottlenecked as well, so the 1070, even though it's a faster card, can't do better... 

[Chris929]

Just now, xDanielxOossiex said:

How much is the performance difference?

Like I said in my OP, I'm getting around 50-60 fps in battlefield 4 maxed out, and around 45-60 fps in GTA V maxed without MSAA, both running at 2560x1080. I'm seeing people getting 90-100 fps in bf4 with similar setups, and in the 80-90s on GTA V

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Chris929 said:

Like I said in my OP, I'm getting around 50-60 fps in battlefield 4 maxed out, and around 45-60 fps in GTA V maxed without MSAA, both running at 2560x1080. I'm seeing people getting 90-100 fps in bf4 with similar setups, and in the 80-90s on GTA V

BF4 and GTA V are CPU intensive, so it's even more understandable that you are getting sub par performance in these titles... 

[Chris929]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

BF4 and GTA V are CPU intensive, so it's even more understandable that you are getting sub par performance in these titles... 

Yea like I said I understand my old Cpu will bottleneck my 1070, but the issue is ik seeing like a 20-30 fps Delta compared to others with similar setups. I'm upgrading this holiday season to a 6th gen i7, but for now I'm seeing a big difference in performance between others with 8350/8320 and gtx 1070

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Chris929 said:

Yea like I said I understand my old Cpu will bottleneck my 1070, but the issue is ik seeing like a 20-30 fps Delta compared to others with similar setups. I'm upgrading this holiday season to a 6th gen i7, but for now I'm seeing a big difference in performance between others with 8350/8320 and gtx 1070

Similar setups? You mean people that have 1070s or people that have 1070s with AMD CPUs?

[Thony]

Your CPU is to blame. Lower the settings until until u upgrade to Zen or Intel.

 

PS. Even worse decision than pairing these two together is buying FE....

[BolginNT]

Just now, Chris929 said:

Yea like I said I understand my old Cpu will bottleneck my 1070, but the issue is ik seeing like a 20-30 fps Delta compared to others with similar setups. I'm upgrading this holiday season to a 6th gen i7, but for now I'm seeing a big difference in performance between others with 8350/8320 and gtx 1070

Maybe some drivers leftovers causing this issue? Did you use DDU utility to get rid of the drivers properly?

[Chris929]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Similar setups? You mean people that have 1070s or people that have 1070s with AMD CPUs?

People that have 1070s and similar amd Cpu or exact same CPU. I don't even bother looking at user benchmarks from people with i7s because I would understand a big performance Delta between the two

[Chris929]

Just now, BolginNT said:

Maybe some drivers leftovers causing this issue? Did you use DDU utility to get rid of the drivers properly?

Yea I removed both all my AMD drivers and my Nvidia drivers and reinstalled my Nvidia drivers from scratch

[Chris929]

1 minute ago, Thony said:

Your CPU is to blame. Lower ilthe settings until until upgrade to Zen or Intel.

 

PS. Even worse decision than pairing these two together is buying FE....

I only got the FE because it was the only one in stock at (insert tech company) and since I worked there I got a good (undisclosed) discount with made it worth it

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Chris929 said:

People that have 1070s and similar amd Cpu or exact same CPU. I don't even bother looking at user benchmarks from people with i7s because I would understand a big performance Delta between the two

I don't know then..... Have you updated all your driver's? 

[Chris929]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

I don't know then..... Have you updated all your driver's? 

Yes I used ddu and wiped all my driver's and reinstalled the latest Nvidia drivers

[xAcid9]

Try download and run Firestrike. 

[Chris929]

1 minute ago, xAcid9 said:

Try download and run Firestrike. 

Alright and should I post my results??

[Thony]

3 minutes ago, Chris929 said:

I only got the FE because it was the only one in stock at (insert tech company) and since I worked there I got a good (undisclosed) discount with made it worth it

Then thats not that bad. Im sure u were very excited for that upgrade.  

 

U can either return it or do as I said no other options unfortunately.

[Chris929]

Just now, Thony said:

Then thats not that bad. Im sure u were very excited for that upgrade.  

 

U can either return it or do as I said no other options unfortunately.

I was very excited lol, slowly getting rid of my budget hardware and moving to more master race components LOL

[xAcid9]

2 minutes ago, Chris929 said:

Alright and should I post my results??

Yes. 

Want to see your GPU score and compare them with others.

[Thony]

1 minute ago, Chris929 said:

I was very excited lol, slowly getting rid of my budget hardware and moving to more master race components LOL

I need to do that too. The 1070 is the last piece to my puzzle. 

[Ironi]

this time, chris knew, he fuckdup. lawl