building $800 computer neeed advice

[ZokunenNoah]

Hello, I'm trying to build a computer for around $800. 
This is what my friend came up with, should I swap the GTX960 to a EVGA GTX1060 3GB or something different such as saving up for a GTX1070 or is the GTX960/GTX1060 good enough?
I am wanting to run most games in 1080p on the highest graphical setting as well as possibly stream on Twitch.  

My friend also says that AMD's are power hungry I kinda want to keep the power bill down if I can. 

I can try to save up $100 to $200 more if I should get a better GPU like a GTX1070 or a better processor.

 

 

 

[Slottr]

Don't get a 960, for the price + just a little more you can get something more than 2x as powerful.

[ZokunenNoah]

Just now, Slottr said:

Don't get a 960, for the price + just a little more you can get something more than 2x as powerful.

What would you recommend then? Please also state what brand.

Also would it be bad to go with the 1060 since no SLI?

[ivan134]

You need a new friend. Your current one is an idiot. Get an rx 470.

[ZokunenNoah]

Just now, ivan134 said:

You need a new friend. Your current one is an idiot. Get an rx 470.

Why get a rx 470 when a GTX 1070 would run better..? Also don't hate speech here
I need advice not flaming

[Alexcalibur]

I would recommend getting a GTX 480. It is the best bang for the buck AMD card ATM and when Cryengine updates their systems to support Vulcan it will be very well optimized

[ivan134]

2 minutes ago, ZokunenNoah said:

Why get a rx 470 when a GTX 1070 would run better..? Also don't hate speech here
I need advice not flaming

A gtx 960 is a ripoff and your friend is a flaming fanboy. AMD had 3 GPUs that are faster than the 960 and are cheaper than the one in your build. did he actually show you any math on how much it would cost you in electric bills?

[ZokunenNoah]

1 minute ago, IskanderEXC said:

I would recommend getting a GTX 480. It is the best bang for the buck AMD card ATM and when Cryengine updates their systems to support Vulcan it will be very well optimized

Did you mean RX480? If so would it still be better then a 3gb GTX1060 and 6gb GTX1060 or gtx1070?

[Alexcalibur]

Just now, ZokunenNoah said:

Did you mean RX480? If so would it still be better then a 3gb GTX1060 and 6gb GTX1060 or gtx1070?

Whoops lmao, yes I do mean the 480. Yes it would be better than the 6Gb 1060, but if you do have the money get the 1070.

[Memories4K]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($150.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($33.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 470 4GB NITRO+ Video Card  ($208.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $815.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-22 21:52 EDT-0400

 

The RX 470 is the best bang for the buck value GPU right now and so is the 6600k.

 

You could save some cash and opt for a 6500, ditch the cooler for a stock cooler, and an H110 MOBO, but i believe in value and quality over quantity and feel you'll be happier with this setup.

 

550w is plenty for any single AMD card right now in their current line-up, i don't really recommend SLI or crossfire over a single GPU.

 

You'll need an OS but idk if you want to use some Linux distro or you already have a key.

If you don't, chalk up an extra $30-ish (for a grey-market key) or $100-ish (for a store-bought key)

[Memories4K]

25 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

A gtx 960 is a ripoff and your friend is a flaming fanboy. AMD had 3 GPUs that are faster than the 960 and are cheaper than the one in your build. did he actually show you any math on how much it would cost you in electric bills?

 

I don't think his friend is a fanboy so much as he's thinking of old tech.

 

Notice how the build list we were given has Haswell parts as well over Skylake (there's no reason to not get Skylake over Haswell right now) And the 200 series of AMD's gpus were power hungry, so i can see someone who's not caught up still thinking that.

 

22 minutes ago, IskanderEXC said:

Whoops lmao, yes I do mean the 480. Yes it would be better than the 6Gb 1060, but if you do have the money get the 1070.

 

You almost let some poor guy buy an old GTX 480 lmao

[ZokunenNoah]

18 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($150.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($33.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 470 4GB NITRO+ Video Card  ($208.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $815.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-22 21:52 EDT-0400

 

The RX 470 is the best bang for the buck value GPU right now and so is the 6600k.

 

You could save some cash and opt for a 6500, ditch the cooler for a stock cooler, and an H110 MOBO, but i believe in value and quality over quantity and feel you'll be happier with this setup.

 

550w is plenty for any single AMD card right now in their current line-up, i don't really recommend SLI or crossfire over a single GPU.

 

You'll need an OS but idk if you want to use some Linux distro or you already have a key.

If you don't, chalk up an extra $30-ish (for a grey-market key) or $100-ish (for a store-bought key)

Already have a 3tb hard drive I got it at frys last month for $75

So don't go for a 1070?
 

 

17 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

I don't think his friend is a fanboy so much as he's thinking of old tech.

 

Notice how the build list we were given has Haswell parts as well over Skylake (there's no reason to not get Skylake over Haswell right now) And the 200 series of AMD's gpus were power hungry, so i can see someone who's not caught up still thinking that.

I think this is true Memories. Thank you for your honest opinion

[Memories4K]

1 minute ago, ZokunenNoah said:

Already have a 3tb hard drive I got it at frys last month for $75

So don't go for a 1070?
 

 

in that case, knock off the price for the HDD.

 

Depends, what kind of refresh-rate do you plan on running?

[Clanscorpia]

14 minutes ago, ZokunenNoah said:

Why get a rx 470 when a GTX 1070 would run better..? Also don't hate speech here
I need advice not flaming

The 1070 is double the price of the 470

[thejstone2002]

6 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($150.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($33.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 470 4GB NITRO+ Video Card  ($208.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $815.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-22 21:52 EDT-0400

 

The RX 470 is the best bang for the buck value GPU right now and so is the 6600k.

 

You could save some cash and opt for a 6500, ditch the cooler for a stock cooler, and an H110 MOBO, but i believe in value and quality over quantity and feel you'll be happier with this setup.

 

550w is plenty for any single AMD card right now in their current line-up, i don't really recommend SLI or crossfire over a single GPU.

 

You'll need an OS but idk if you want to use some Linux distro or you already have a key.

If you don't, chalk up an extra $30-ish (for a grey-market key) or $100-ish (for a store-bought key)

Also, you may consider more ram if you have the money because I know that lots of applications and games are becoming much more intense on it.

[ZokunenNoah]

1 minute ago, Memories4K said:

in that case, knock off the price for the HDD.

 

Depends, what kind of refresh-rate do you plan on running?

Most likely 60 HZ

[ivan134]

4 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

I don't think his friend is a fanboy so much as he's thinking of old tech.

 

Notice how the build list we were given has Haswell parts as well over Skylake (there's no reason to not get Skylake over Haswell right now) And the 200 series of AMD's gpus were power hungry, so i can see someone who's not caught up still thinking that.

That just shows he's ignorant and that's never an excuse, especially in the age of Google. The 960 never competed with the 200 series either.

3 minutes ago, ZokunenNoah said:

Already have a 3tb hard drive I got it at frys last month for $75

So don't go for a 1070?
 

You cant fit a 1070 in an $800 build

[ZokunenNoah]

1 minute ago, thejstone2002 said:

Also, you may consider more ram if you have the money because I know that lots of applications and games are becoming much more intense on it.

I do plan on going to 16 Gb of ram later on, it's just for right now.

[Memories4K]

Just now, ZokunenNoah said:

Most likely 60 HZ

Since you told us you'll be running at a rez of 1080p, you absolutely do not need a 1070.

 

[ZokunenNoah]

1 minute ago, ivan134 said:

That just shows he's ignorant and that's never an excuse, especially in the age of Google. The 960 never competed with the 200 series either.

You cant fit a 1070 in an $800 build

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33 minutes ago, ZokunenNoah said:

I can try to save up $100 to $200 more if I should get a better GPU like a GTX1070 or a better processor.

 

 

 

 

[Memories4K]

5 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

The 960 never competed with the 200 series either.

 

 

 

 

Idk who you think you're fooling here but the 960 absolutely ran more efficient than the 285/380 (competing GPU at the time in same price bracket), despite the 285/380 having better performance hahaha

[ZokunenNoah]

4 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

Since you told us you'll be running at a rez of 1080p, you absolutely do not need a 1070.

 

Even for streaming/recording?

[ivan134]

Just now, Memories4K said:

Idk who you think you're fooling here but the 960 absolutely ran more efficient than the 380, despite the 380 having better performance hahaha

What? Who said the 960 didn't consume less?

[Jack Dvorak]

22 minutes ago, IskanderEXC said:

Whoops lmao, yes I do mean the 480. Yes it would be better than the 6Gb 1060, but if you do have the money get the 1070.

Spoiler the 1060 is faster Mr fanboy

 

17 minutes ago, ZokunenNoah said:

Already have a 3tb hard drive I got it at frys last month for $75

So don't go for a 1070?
 

A 1070 is overkill. Trust me I have one and it is way to overpowered for 1080p

[ZokunenNoah]

1 minute ago, Jack Dvorak said:

Spoiler the 1060 is faster Mr fanboy

While yes the 1060 is faster in normal games, benchmarks show 480 runs faster on Vulkan games