upgrades for college (computing course)

[manlykeweaver465]

At the moment i have an fx 4100, gtx 750, 500gb hard drive and 8gb ram

 

i dont have much money (£230) and id like to make some upgrades too my pc but im not sure what to uprgade, my gpu or cpu and i wanna upgrade my storage as boot up times and loading programs are slow af 

 

at college ill be doing stuff like programming, animation, web design and building computers

 

i need help deciding on what to buy if i went with a new cpu i was gonna buy an fx 6300 as its what fits my motherboard but id also be rendering  images and videos 

[Prokart2000]

1 minute ago, manlykeweaver465 said:

At the moment i have an fx 4100, gtx 750, 500gb hard drive and 8gb ram

 

i dont have much money (£230) and id like to make some upgrades too my pc but im not sure what to uprgade, my gpu or cpu and i wanna upgrade my storage as boot up times and loading programs are slow af 

 

at college ill be doing stuff like programming, animation, web design and building computers

 

i need help deciding on what to buy if i went with a new cpu i was gonna buy an fx 6300 as its what fits my motherboard but id also be rendering  images and videos 

Can your mobo use the 8 core?

[manlykeweaver465]

1 minute ago, Prokart2000 said:

Can your mobo use the 8 core?

oops accidently clicked solved 

 

but im pretty sure it can 

 

m5a97 le r2.0

[MattBoxer]

I would look into getting a used i5 and mobo as that will be much better / on par with an AMD 8 core while being cheaper and if you get a K version should beat it quite a lot. That will set you back a bit but you could still have enough for a gpu upgrade and maybe an ssd.

 

EDIT: you could also sell your cpu and mobo and get a bit more spending money.

[Prokart2000]

Just now, manlykeweaver465 said:

oops accidently clicked solved 

 

but im pretty sure it can 

 

m5a97 le r2.0

I would get an 8320 (maybe used) as its the best cpu at your price range that will fit in the am3+ socket and is better at rendering vs the 4 core, 8gb of ram should be ok but im not too sure on what rendering programs use

[vorticalbox]

1 minute ago, manlykeweaver465 said:

oops accidently clicked solved 

 

but im pretty sure it can 

 

m5a97 le r2.0

please don't put a 8 core in a 970 chip set, a 990 at minimal and  a 990FX as the recommended

[manlykeweaver465]

Just now, Prokart2000 said:

I would get an 8320 (maybe used) as its the best cpu at your price range that will fit in the am3+ socket and is better at rendering vs the 4 core, 8gb of ram should be ok but im not too sure on what rendering programs use

well im pretty sure ill be working on blender at home as its free

[Prokart2000]

1 minute ago, vorticalbox said:

please don't put a 8 core in a 970 chip set, a 990 at minimal and  a 990FX as the recommended

lol i have my 8320 in a m5a97 r2.0 (non le) and its running fine

[manlykeweaver465]

2 minutes ago, vorticalbox said:

please don't put a 8 core in a 970 chip set, a 990 at minimal and  a 990FX as the recommended

would my mobo be able to overclock an fx 6300 if i spent a little more on a cpu cooler ?

[vorticalbox]

3 minutes ago, manlykeweaver465 said:

well im pretty sure ill be working on blender at home as its free

If you're using blender, look into sheep it Render farm. You run a client on your PC to render peoples work and you get points which you can then use to render your own project.

 

I left logged onto the xeons in college and left the client running

1 minute ago, Prokart2000 said:

lol i have my 8320 in a m5a97 r2.0 (non le) and its running fine

Maybe it will be fine I wouldn;t be putting that much wattage in a lower chipset. I have the gigabyte ud3 for my 8350. 

[MrDrWho13]

I don't know much about the intel options at this price point, but you should look into the FX 6300, and then an SSD. This will improve your performance and much improve the loading times of things.

I have a similar setup and use case, (FX 6300, 240GB SSD, Radeon HD7770 2GB, M5A97 R2.0), and rendering is fairly fast.

(Although my animation software is using the U3 engine which does make it easier on my PC)

[Prokart2000]

1 minute ago, vorticalbox said:

 

I left logged onto the xeons in college and left the client running

Maybe it will be fine I wouldn;t be putting that much wattage in a lower chipset. I have the gigabyte ud3 for my 8350. 

Saying that its not always stable, it has an issue that no one i asked can solve

[manlykeweaver465]

1 minute ago, Prokart2000 said:

Saying that its not always stable, it has an issue that no one i asked can solve

what if i stuck with the fx 6300 and spent a little more on some storage upgrades ? 

[MrDrWho13]

After the CPU and SSD, have a look into RX460/470/480 depending on how much budget you have left. 

In theory, you're able to overclock the FX6300 if needed, but you'll need a new cooler.

[vorticalbox]

4 minutes ago, Prokart2000 said:

Saying that its not always stable, it has an issue that no one i asked can solve

probaly vm's getting hot. my VM's have a massive heat sink on them and any overlock over 4.5 ~ 4.6 gets them too hot and I get massive drops to 1.4GHz. I have a switch 810 and the rear fan blowing in and a h100i and the thing still gets HOT.

 

with a 4.8 Ghz OC I sit about 15C belower the thermal margin and with 5Ghz I am about 10C from it. That 8 core gets hot lol

 

Edit: I actually did most of my work on a Chromebook and then did most of the software side in college I actually did very little at home.

[manlykeweaver465]

Just now, MrDrWho13 said:

After the CPU and SSD, have a look into RX460/470/480 depending on how much budget you have left. 

In theory, you're able to overclock the FX6300 if needed, but you'll need a new cooler.

well i mean i could buy a gpu later on like Christmas 

[MrDrWho13]

Just now, manlykeweaver465 said:

well i mean i could buy a gpu later on like Christmas 

That sounds like a good plan to get the most performance on your budget.

[Prokart2000]

2 minutes ago, vorticalbox said:

probaly vm's getting hot. my VM's have a massive heat sink on them and any overlock over 4.5 ~ 4.6 gets them too hot and I get massive drops to 1.4GHz. I have a switch 810 and the rear fan blowing in and a h100i and the thing still gets HOT.

 

with a 4.8 Ghz OC I sit about 15C belower the thermal margin and with 5Ghz I am about 10C from it. That 8 core gets hot lol

Its really weird tbh, if you dont use it for a couple of days, it will turn on and not post with the memok! light on and gpu activity light shows its under load, but when i hard reset it from the wall its fine, its annoying as it stops me from getting a 500mhz oc out of it as the oc resets when it happens

 

4 minutes ago, manlykeweaver465 said:

what if i stuck with the fx 6300 and spent a little more on some storage upgrades ? 

Sounds good

[manlykeweaver465]

what about a cpu cooler then ?

 

something  a bit cheaper than the hyper 212 evo ?

[MattBoxer]

1 minute ago, manlykeweaver465 said:

what about a cpu cooler then ?

 

something  a bit cheaper than the hyper 212 evo ?

This one is a tad cheaper and on par and looks a bit better.

:https://www.amazon.co.uk/SilentiumPC-Fera-HE1224-CPU-Cooler/dp/B01C0L60KU/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470740461&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=silemtium+pc

[Prokart2000]

Just now, manlykeweaver465 said:

what about a cpu cooler then ?

 

something  a bit cheaper than the hyper 212 evo ?

hyper 212 will do great, you should be able to oc a bit too, depends on the silicon lottery and how hot the vrms get on the mobo, not forgetting about llc on the board (load line calibration)

[manlykeweaver465]

3 minutes ago, Prokart2000 said:

hyper 212 will do great, you should be able to oc a bit too, depends on the silicon lottery and how hot the vrms get on the mobo, not forgetting about llc on the board (load line calibration)

is there anything cheaper i was looking at this https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Freezer-Multicompatible-pre-applied-Performance/dp/B0048F64DU/ref=sr_1_12?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1470740607&sr=1-12&keywords=cpu+cooler

 

or  should i stick with the hyper 212 incase i overclock later down the line 

[Prokart2000]

2 minutes ago, manlykeweaver465 said:

is there anything cheaper i was looking at this https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Freezer-Multicompatible-pre-applied-Performance/dp/B0048F64DU/ref=sr_1_12?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1470740607&sr=1-12&keywords=cpu+cooler

This looks like a decent option from the reviews, also the mounting looks easier http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/vptCmG/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrtx3e22pkr1 

[vorticalbox]

7 minutes ago, Prokart2000 said:

Its really weird tbh, if you dont use it for a couple of days, it will turn on and not post with the memok! light on and gpu activity light shows its under load, but when i hard reset it from the wall its fine, its annoying as it stops me from getting a 500mhz oc out of it as the oc resets when it happens

Very weird just heat though, these things get hot even when not overclocked.

[Prokart2000]

1 minute ago, vorticalbox said:

Very weird just heat though, these things get hot even when not overclocked.

Oh well, hoping to upgrade this year