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How bad is my CPU bottlenecking my GPU?

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So I recently just bought a Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro as it was on such a reduced price on OverClockers.co.uk and I was looking for an exuse for a new card anyway... :)

Currently my CPU is at a very stable 4.3ghz OC up from 3.5 ... it's an FX8320.... ouch.. but the OC helps a tonne!

I've attached my best valley score.. it's definitely better than my r9-290 but seems the card doesn't care much for 1080p
This is the best score I've got so far in Valley with 13mv on the GPU core and 30% PowerDraw.... I'm pretty sure I modded the BIOS to 1130/520mhz respectively but I cannot replicate this score,
Is this a low score for a Fury Nitro Air because of my FX8320... how many FPS do you think I'd gain by upgrading to Skylake 6500K(+) + Z170 / X99 & DDR4 (Nothing lol)

I'm thoroughly happy with the card as it plays everything so smoothly on such an ancient MOBO (Gigabte 990FX-A-UD3 rev4)

If new mobo / cpu yeilds only 10% or so I won't bother but if we're talking 20%(+) then I'll not hesitate,

Thanks in advance if you can offer any advice

Current BIOS also attached... if anyone can tweak it I'd be eternally greatful... like seriously.

Unigine_Valley_Benchmark_1.0_20160804_1238.html

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// Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 // AMD FX-8320 CPU @ 4.3 Ghz (7-21.5 Multiplier) 200.90mhz FSB CPU-Z Validated // Kraken X40 AIO - 2x140mm Push-Pull // 4GB Corsair Vengeance LP - 8GB Avexir Core Series Red 1760Mhz // Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro 1130mhz/4GB 1025mhz (Effective) GPU-Z Validation // Corsair SP2500 2.1 & Microlab Solo 9C Speakers // Corsair K90 Silver - Cherry MX Red & Blue LEDs // EVGA SuperNova 850w G2

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benchmark something like GTA V that is open world or witcher 3; then put ur cpu back to stock and do benchmark again
now put everything to ultra for either of these games, and watch the cpu usage, how much of cpu and gpu is being utilized; 

now compare the results you got to a similar build benchmark of these games on youtube; look how much performance they are getting vs you are

Sorry I can straight spit the answer for your questions; I don't own all the parts, thats the best thing i can tell you; you have to do your own research here

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um

 

solution?:

 

buy intel 

 

i dunno

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Use MSI Afterburner while you play and keep an eye at the CPU usage. If it's at 100% AND your GPU is under 99% on well optimized games, then you have a problem. Remember not all games are CPU-intensive.

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No thank you that's the best advice you could of given. Teach a man to fish and all that.. I probably would of done that but I am super tired and was hoping someone had a handy graph. As it stands I *personally* don't feel like the CPU is bottlenecking. As during FurMark I can bench without any Core(mhz) throttle for nearly 10 minutes before driver crashing on a 1150/525 overclock... though that is with an extremely aggressive custom fan profile.. but I feel this card needs it if you hope to OC pas 1100mhz core as things get real hot after that lol. Apparently Sapphire got it to 1200mhz... I'd *love* to know how...

// Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 // AMD FX-8320 CPU @ 4.3 Ghz (7-21.5 Multiplier) 200.90mhz FSB CPU-Z Validated // Kraken X40 AIO - 2x140mm Push-Pull // 4GB Corsair Vengeance LP - 8GB Avexir Core Series Red 1760Mhz // Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro 1130mhz/4GB 1025mhz (Effective) GPU-Z Validation // Corsair SP2500 2.1 & Microlab Solo 9C Speakers // Corsair K90 Silver - Cherry MX Red & Blue LEDs // EVGA SuperNova 850w G2

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Btw Witcher 3 and GTA 5 run perfectly, unfortunately I didn't pre-bench but there is no frame lag on either with absolute max IQ settings on both.

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4 minutes ago, Mateus Campello said:

Use MSI Afterburner while you play and keep an eye at the CPU usage. If it's at 100% AND your GPU is under 99% on well optimized games, then you have a problem. Remember not all games are CPU-intensive.

Games rarely ever max CPU and rarely GPU.. only furmark maxes GPU consistently... where as Valley/Heaven GPU core mhz fluctuates like mad which lead me to believe something was a-miss....

// Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 // AMD FX-8320 CPU @ 4.3 Ghz (7-21.5 Multiplier) 200.90mhz FSB CPU-Z Validated // Kraken X40 AIO - 2x140mm Push-Pull // 4GB Corsair Vengeance LP - 8GB Avexir Core Series Red 1760Mhz // Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro 1130mhz/4GB 1025mhz (Effective) GPU-Z Validation // Corsair SP2500 2.1 & Microlab Solo 9C Speakers // Corsair K90 Silver - Cherry MX Red & Blue LEDs // EVGA SuperNova 850w G2

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5 minutes ago, Mkfish said:

Games rarely ever max CPU and rarely GPU.. only furmark maxes GPU consistently... where as Valley/Heaven GPU core mhz fluctuates like mad which lead me to believe something was a-miss....

Have you raised your Power limit? Current GPUs are quite constrained power-wise and the variable boost try to make the best with what it has, so it fluctuates like hell. Try to put that at max and see if your clocks stabilizes.

 

And about the usage, not all games will keep your GPU at 99%, but most of current AAA games will, if not, something may be wrong. Are you looking at the general CPU usage or core by core usage? The total usage may not reach 100% but some cores may do.

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Yeah power limit is settled nicely at +30% for my 1130 OC and +13mv on GPU core.. otherwise the card throttles like mad as soon as you get to 75oC even if your target temp is 85oC.... 0_0;

I've not really paid attention to CPU core usage mainly just socket temps since I know all cores will be fine < 65oC on CPU socket (Not package as that always reads -10oC cooler)
I've mostly just been watching the GPU clock.. in Valley at 1080p / No AA I'll get about 80-82FPS average which is good but when I monitor GPU clock even with 8xAA the GPU clock never runs at it's full speed of 1130... even with plenty of power, voltage, and max cooling... I find it odd as FurMark keeps the clock at the desired 1130mhz operating speed.. 

This is heaven 1080p/ultra benchmark which I also find poor

Unigine_Heaven_Benchmark_4.0_20160806_0248.html

// Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 // AMD FX-8320 CPU @ 4.3 Ghz (7-21.5 Multiplier) 200.90mhz FSB CPU-Z Validated // Kraken X40 AIO - 2x140mm Push-Pull // 4GB Corsair Vengeance LP - 8GB Avexir Core Series Red 1760Mhz // Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro 1130mhz/4GB 1025mhz (Effective) GPU-Z Validation // Corsair SP2500 2.1 & Microlab Solo 9C Speakers // Corsair K90 Silver - Cherry MX Red & Blue LEDs // EVGA SuperNova 850w G2

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41 minutes ago, TheAmazingCookieFromSquare said:

um

 

solution?:

 

buy intel 

 

i dunno

This is what I'm leaning towards... I just want the FPS increase to be worth it and not like 10% hehe

// Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 // AMD FX-8320 CPU @ 4.3 Ghz (7-21.5 Multiplier) 200.90mhz FSB CPU-Z Validated // Kraken X40 AIO - 2x140mm Push-Pull // 4GB Corsair Vengeance LP - 8GB Avexir Core Series Red 1760Mhz // Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro 1130mhz/4GB 1025mhz (Effective) GPU-Z Validation // Corsair SP2500 2.1 & Microlab Solo 9C Speakers // Corsair K90 Silver - Cherry MX Red & Blue LEDs // EVGA SuperNova 850w G2

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Your CPU is bottlenecking your Fury, but it's not a huge loss like 20%+. What resolution do you play on? 1080p? 1440p?

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I have the same mobo and same chip. I got it to 4.4 1.416 volts and I have my vcore loadline set to medium . I am running a 980 on it OC slightly to 1354 boost- hits 1367. No added gpu core voltage.

 

I am seeing an avg of 66.2 fps in 1080 at ultra/8x aa everything on. 66.7 in heaven same settings, 55 in the gta v benchmark msaa 4x, ultra. 

 

I have debated with myself the exact same thing. Switching to intel. especially since win10 anv ed makes carrying over a license super easy now.

 

I am playing on 1080 and honestly, like I am sure you see with your fury card, 1080 is no problem for this thing. I know my cpu is a bottleneck . I still feel that my first upgrade for me personally would be to upgrade my monitor setup from dual 27in ips 1080s to something in 1440 before I swap out this mobo and cpu. 

 

I edit video and game and of course the typical yt vid, browse etc. The 8320 while not perfect, does the job just fine with a 980. It is so expensive to upgrade IMO. 

 

If you already play on a 1440 or better monitor, then yea sure. There is no doubt certain intel cpus and boards outdo this one, but if it ain't really broke ya know? I would just weigh out cost vs actual in game benefit and I don't really know if you'll gain 20% + going to a i5 6500 or 6600k. Maybe in some games that are really CPU intensive and if you edit video sure.

 

Sorry I can not help with your video card bios. 

 

 

 

 

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In the benchmark you're not being bottlenecked much, but in CPU intensive games like GTA5 you will certainly feel it, especially with your minimum framerates. I have a non-overclocked Fury and 6700k at 4.5GHz.

Unigine_Valley_Benchmark_1.0_20160807_1728.html

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Assuming the fury nitro is ~10% faster than the 1060, this should make a pretty good comparison

 

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