Graphics cards availability issues.

[WereCat]

I am already month without graphics card. I sold my 770 before I went on vacation and planned to get new on when I get back home.

Problem is that everything is sold out now and I have to wait 3 weeks for delivery if I order any.

 

I preordered RX480 8GB Sapphire Nitro OC for 310€ with shipping included... haven't paid anything yet. I can cancel this pre-order.

 

I can order Gainward GTX 1060 with custom cooler and reference PCB for 278€ (without shipping). But that one is out of stock as well.

 

Now I can't decide whether I should wait 3 weeks for 480 or who knows how long for 1060.

The 1060 is more appealing to me because of price and because I know how much performance to expect out of it.

 

480 is appealing to me mainly because of my hopes and wishes that I will be able to OC it to over 1400MHz and and get similar performance to 1060 in DX11 times and that it will last me longer because of better performance in DX12/Vulkan titles.

 

 

What to do?

[CrackheadKyle]

I think you should go for GTX 1060 the DX12 and Pascal makes it stellar and if waiting REALLY bothers you. you CAN try the GTX 1070 it is in low 400s but 1060 will reach mid to high 300s and 1070 is MUCH more faster than 1060 for like 50 bucks more but also if you more of an AMD person I am almost sure that in Fall they will come out with a whole array of well performing GPUS for cheap after all they've been spending the summer watching Nvidias sucess

[Bl00dgod]

6 minutes ago, Savageiste said:

I think you should go for GTX 1060 the DX12 and Pascal makes it stellar and if waiting REALLY bothers you. you CAN try the GTX 1070 it is in low 400s but 1060 will reach mid to high 300s and 1070 is MUCH more faster than 1060 for like 50 bucks more but also if you more of an AMD person I am almost sure that in Fall they will come out with a whole array of well performing GPUS for cheap after all they've been spending the summer watching Nvidias sucess

amd said that their high performing GPU will come in 2017 with the "VEGA" generation

linus and luke talked about that in the last wan show too

[DrMikeNZ]

If you have to wait either way. You can spend that time saving the difference to get a 1070 instead, or go with the 1060 or RX 480, it really doesn't matter. As you are currently without a GPU I would just get the first card that is in stock. DX12 and vulkan do not magically make AMD cards better than their rival Nvidia cards in all titles, it will always depend on what the developers do and how they code their games.

[CrackheadKyle]

Then he should probably get a 1070 best value and will last you do for a while 

[WereCat]

22 minutes ago, DrMikeNZ said:

If you have to wait either way. You can spend that time saving the difference to get a 1070 instead, or go with the 1060 or RX 480, it really doesn't matter. As you are currently without a GPU I would just get the first card that is in stock. DX12 and vulkan do not magically make AMD cards better than their rival Nvidia cards in all titles, it will always depend on what the developers do and how they code their games.

 

30 minutes ago, Savageiste said:

I think you should go for GTX 1060 the DX12 and Pascal makes it stellar and if waiting REALLY bothers you. you CAN try the GTX 1070 it is in low 400s but 1060 will reach mid to high 300s and 1070 is MUCH more faster than 1060 for like 50 bucks more but also if you more of an AMD person I am almost sure that in Fall they will come out with a whole array of well performing GPUS for cheap after all they've been spending the summer watching Nvidias sucess

Cheapest 1070 is 520€ which is not 50$ more but twice as much as 1060.

[ace_cheaply]

I would rather have the 480 Nitro than the 1060, but what do I know? I bought a 1070. 

 

Edit, looking at the prices I would go with the 1060 though. 

[DrMikeNZ]

52 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Cheapest 1070 is 520€ which is not 50$ more but twice as much as 1060.

That changes things, probably best to skip the 1070's where you are then, 1060's are much closer in price to the 1070's where I live (1060's are ~$500 USD, with the cheapest 1070 at ~$584 USD).

[WereCat]

10 hours ago, ace_cheaply said:

I would rather have the 480 Nitro than the 1060, but what do I know? I bought a 1070. 

 

Edit, looking at the prices I would go with the 1060 though. 

 

9 hours ago, DrMikeNZ said:

That changes things, probably best to skip the 1070's where you are then, 1060's are much closer in price to the 1070's where I live (1060's are ~$500 USD, with the cheapest 1070 at ~$584 USD).

Well. I saw GTX 1060 from Palit for the same price as the RX480 except I will have this one this Thursday as it was in stock so I cancelled my preorder for RX480 and ordered that Palit GTX 1060 Dual. Looks like reference design PCB with dual fans .. should be good enough for 2000MHz hopefully.

 

[ace_cheaply]

9 minutes ago, WereCat said:

 

Well. I saw GTX 1060 from Palit for the same price as the RX480 except I will have this one this Thursday as it was in stock so I cancelled my preorder for RX480 and ordered that Palit GTX 1060 Dual. Looks like reference design PCB with dual fans .. should be good enough for 2000MHz hopefully.

Awesome, I'm sure you'll be happy with it.  I haven't seen anybody have trouble hitting 2000.  It's getting over 2100 that's the trick. My 1070 boosts to 2114, but throttles back to 2088-2101. 

[WereCat]

1 minute ago, ace_cheaply said:

Awesome, I'm sure you'll be happy with it.  I haven't seen anybody have trouble hitting 2000.  It's getting over 2100 that't the trick. My 1070 boosts to 2114, but throttles back to 2088-2101. 

I am just a lot sceptical since I had really bad luck with my GTX 770.

It was from Gigabyte (Windforce cooler).

Memory clock 7010MHz.

I go and OC it to 7011MHz... unstable.... that memory was maxed out since begining.

And I could OC core only by 15-20MHz before it got unstable as well.

[ace_cheaply]

Just now, WereCat said:

I am just a lot sceptical since I had really bad luck with my GTX 770.

It was from Gigabyte (Windforce cooler).

Memory clock 7010MHz.

I go and OC it to 7011MHz... unstable.... that memory was maxed out since begining.

And I could OC core only by 15-20MHz before it got unstable as well.

I'm absolutely positive you'll get over 1900mhz.  My 770 was a decent overclocker.  I could get all the way to 1339 for benchmarks, but it would artifact after a while in games. For gaming I could get it to 1287 with 7600mhz memory.  My memory on the 1070 overclocks to 9200mhz.  It'll run in games at 2101 boost clock stable all the time, but for some reason in benchmarks like firestrike it will only hold 2050-2088. If I push it even one more mhz in GPU Tweak or Afterburner it will shoot the boost to 2134 and crash.  I'm waiting for the software to mature a little to see if that goes away.

[WereCat]

Just now, ace_cheaply said:

I'm absolutely positive you'll get over 1900mhz.  My 770 was a decent overclocker.  I could get all the way to 1339 for benchmarks, but it would artifact after a while in games. For gaming I could get it to 1287 with 7600mhz memory.  My memory on the 1070 overclocks to 9200mhz.  It'll run in games at 2101 boost clock stable all the time, but for some reason in benchmarks like firestrike it will only hold 2050-2088. If I push it even one more mhz in GPU Tweak or Afterburner it will shoot the boost to 2134 and crash.  I'm waiting for the software to mature a little to see if that goes away.

You got some really nice results. From what I have seen 2050MHz OC is possible for majority of Pascal cards so I keep my fingers crossed to get to this clock at least. Anything above it will be just icing on the cake.

Regarding memory clock... well. I dont expect much there but if I get at least close to 9000MHz it would be great. Samsung memory tends to OC well but we will see.

[alexblair]

The 1060 Founders Edition is available on NVIDIA's website: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/geforce-gtx-1060?gclid=Cj0KEQjwlNy8BRC676-W0JezxbwBEiQA4Ydg0VxrASaVMd_3yAubp4Q91OyR5Z4NImhF4w7WBytVbXIaAm9s8P8HAQ

 

Visiontek 480 8GB for Pre-Order: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1265084&gclid=Cj0KEQjwlNy8BRC676-W0JezxbwBEiQA4Ydg0RfWAfUtSxUQTnMiX4uooT9U8QlfNj7B59Pw1fbODfYaAmzY8P8HAQ&is=REG&ap=y&m=Y&c3api=1876%2C52934714882%2C&A=details&Q=

 

 

[1Cup1Tea]

31 minutes ago, WereCat said:

 

Well. I saw GTX 1060 from Palit for the same price as the RX480 except I will have this one this Thursday as it was in stock so I cancelled my preorder for RX480 and ordered that Palit GTX 1060 Dual. Looks like reference design PCB with dual fans .. should be good enough for 2000MHz hopefully.

 

Nice card.

[1Cup1Tea]

15 minutes ago, ace_cheaply said:

I'm absolutely positive you'll get over 1900mhz.  My 770 was a decent overclocker.  I could get all the way to 1339 for benchmarks, but it would artifact after a while in games. For gaming I could get it to 1287 with 7600mhz memory.  My memory on the 1070 overclocks to 9200mhz.  It'll run in games at 2101 boost clock stable all the time, but for some reason in benchmarks like firestrike it will only hold 2050-2088. If I push it even one more mhz in GPU Tweak or Afterburner it will shoot the boost to 2134 and crash.  I'm waiting for the software to mature a little to see if that goes away.

Same clocks as my ASUS STRIX 1080, not sure if i can go higher but i'm happy so far.

[ace_cheaply]

9 minutes ago, WereCat said:

You got some really nice results. From what I have seen 2050MHz OC is possible for majority of Pascal cards so I keep my fingers crossed to get to this clock at least. Anything above it will be just icing on the cake.

Regarding memory clock... well. I dont expect much there but if I get at least close to 9000MHz it would be great. Samsung memory tends to OC well but we will see.

Yeah, i'm super happy, was happy with the 770 too, but now that goes to the wife's rig, her hd 7870 goes to the htpc, and the 4870 gets retired for good.   As far as the memory goes, I'd really expect 

 

[ace_cheaply]

17 minutes ago, 1Cup1Tea said:

Same clocks as my ASUS STRIX 1080, not sure if i can go higher but i'm happy so far.

Well, it's a strix 1070, so makes sense!  

[ace_cheaply]

17 minutes ago, 1Cup1Tea said:

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Just curious... How does the GDDR5x overclock?

[1Cup1Tea]

1 hour ago, ace_cheaply said:

Just curious... How does the GDDR5x overclock?

It's stock right now, not fiddled yet.