AMD Rant (No hate pls)

[T99]

Hello guys.

 

Recently AMD released the Polaris cards. The RX 480 and 470(?). The 480 beats the 970 from green side, on DX12 titles. Has similar performance (if not better) to 970, and costs possibly less. This is next generation GPU. Well done AMD there.

 

However, if you guys think about it, AMD has been falling behind in the *latest and greatest* part in the GPU industry against Nvidia, and is going for the price per performance instead. That is not bad, now theoretically there should be an RX 490 somehow waiting for us in a corner.. due to AMD's naming convention. R7 370 - RX 470. R9 380 - RX 480 and possibly R9 390 - RX 490. I predict that the 490 (if it even releases) will come between the performance of a GTX 980 and a 980ti in DX11 Titles, and completely throw 980ti in the trash in DX12 titles such as Doom.

 

I agree - Most people fanboy Nvidia / AMD and is mostly ignorant of what the opposing manufacturer has to offer. I hate fanboys - Nvidia or AMD. As a Nvidia type of person myself, I am not a fanboy, but just a fan. AMD make good GPUs, and so does Nvidia. But there has always been one thing that is unclear in my mind - What is their top of the line latest and greatest GPU? If you can correct me in the comments that would be great. But I personally think there is a good chance it is the R9 Fury X. Let's compare that to an Nvidia Equivalent, GTX 980(ti)? The 980 was Nvidia's top of the line GPU 22 months ago, and probably was the best GPU aside from the Titan Z (2* 780) (Kepler). Pardon me on my lack of knowledge for AMD GPUs, but I believe that the Fury X was released with the 390x. (970 / 980 performance) Which was 14/15 months ago (??). Now a top of the line AMD GPU can justify a comparison to a top of the line Nvidia GPU nearly 3 seasons older than that card is quite shocking.

 

The whole point of this thread was say, that I really expected more on the red team, and make some high performance and premium products that can compete with the new Pascal GPUs. Now that the Titan X has been released, the architecture AMD is expected to release in 2017 is pointless, considering the top of the line for that arc. is similar to a 1080. Did this not happen with Polaris? RX 480 OC can compare with 980? 

 

 

I would really want AMD to make some exciting products that is on the par with a  Titan X Pascal at least, it doesn't have to be cheap, at least it can amuse consumers of what AMD can actually product.

 

 

No hate on AMD, just expected something exciting with Polaris and didn't get it.

[RuLeZ]

The RX 480 was never supposed to be a high-end product, it is a  232 mm² chip for gods sake, if you want something exciting from AMD just wait for 2017 with Vega HBM2.

[T99]

Just now, RuLeZ said:

The RX 480 was never supposed to be a high-end product, it is a  232 mm² chip for gods sake, if you want something exciting from AMD just wait for 2017 with Vega HBM2.

What I was saying that the Polaris Architecture never had anything high-end, which was something that I expected. 

[rattacko123]

I just want something on par with gtx 1080. Just as long as AMD can give good value for money, I dont care if AMD brings a titan x pascal competitor or not.

[Ichi]

1 minute ago, T99 said:

What I was saying that the Polaris Architecture never had anything high-end, which was something that I expected. 

They never state Polaris to be high-end do they?

That's where Vega comes in later.

[Kirky2k15]

What happened to RX 490?

[GirlFromYonder]

6 minutes ago, T99 said:

Hello guys.

 

Recently AMD released the Polaris cards. The RX 480 and 470(?). The 480 beats the 970 from green side, on DX12 titles. Has similar performance (if not better) to 970, and costs possibly less. This is next generation GPU. Well done AMD there.

 

However, if you guys think about it, AMD has been falling behind in the *latest and greatest* part in the GPU industry against Nvidia, and is going for the price per performance instead. That is not bad, now theoretically there should be an RX 490 somehow waiting for us in a corner.. due to AMD's naming convention. R7 370 - RX 470. R9 380 - RX 480 and possibly R9 390 - RX 490. I predict that the 490 (if it even releases) will come between the performance of a GTX 980 and a 980ti in DX11 Titles, and completely throw 980ti in the trash in DX12 titles such as Doom.

 

I agree - Most people fanboy Nvidia / AMD and is mostly ignorant of what the opposing manufacturer has to offer. I hate fanboys - Nvidia or AMD. As a Nvidia type of person myself, I am not a fanboy, but just a fan. AMD make good GPUs, and so does Nvidia. But there has always been one thing that is unclear in my mind - What is their top of the line latest and greatest GPU? If you can correct me in the comments that would be great. But I personally think there is a good chance it is the R9 Fury X. Let's compare that to an Nvidia Equivalent, GTX 980(ti)? The 980 was Nvidia's top of the line GPU 22 months ago, and probably was the best GPU aside from the Titan Z (2* 780) (Kepler). Pardon me on my lack of knowledge for AMD GPUs, but I believe that the Fury X was released with the 390x. (970 / 980 performance) Which was 14/15 months ago (??). Now a top of the line AMD GPU can justify a comparison to a top of the line Nvidia GPU nearly 3 seasons older than that card is quite shocking.

 

The whole point of this thread was say, that I really expected more on the red team, and make some high performance and premium products that can compete with the new Pascal GPUs. Now that the Titan X has been released, the architecture AMD is expected to release in 2017 is pointless, considering the top of the line for that arc. is similar to a 1080. Did this not happen with Polaris? RX 480 OC can compare with 980? 

 

 

I would really want AMD to make some exciting products that is on the par with a  Titan X Pascal at least, it doesn't have to be cheap, at least it can amuse consumers of what AMD can actually product.

 

 

No hate on AMD, just expected something exciting with Polaris and didn't get it.

well look at it this way. Once pascal is released, AMD will know what it is up agasint thus it can deliver a better gpu

[T99]

Just now, Ichi said:

They never state Polaris to be high-end do they?

That's where Vega comes in later.

I shall wait then

[RuLeZ]

1 minute ago, Kirky2k15 said:

What happened to RX 490?

My bet its a dual chip Polaris.

[GirlFromYonder]

Just now, RuLeZ said:

My bet its a dual chip Polaris.

if it is will it be worth it.

 

Maybe not

[Morgan MLGman]

AMD took a different approach here, they decided that so few people buy those highest-end GPUs that it's better to invest into bringing VR and premium 1080p performance to masses for ~199$. Though they will release higher-end GPUs in the future I believe

[McHox]

12 minutes ago, T99 said:

 in DX12 titles such as Doom.

 

m8,doom runs on opengl or vulkan

[GirlFromYonder]

Just now, Morgan MLGman said:

AMD took a different approach here, they decided that so few people buy those highest-end GPUs that it's better to invest into bringing VR and premium 1080p performance to masses for ~199$. Though they will release higher-end GPUs in the future I believe

Well yes that is good consider that amd is in a loss. but then the more expensive the gpu the more the profit too

[Morgan MLGman]

Just now, DeezNoNos said:

Well yes that is good consider that amd is in a loss. but then the more expensive the gpu the more the profit too

The more expensive GPU, the higher are the costs of research, production etc as well.

[GirlFromYonder]

2 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

The more expensive GPU, the higher are the costs of research, production etc as well.

OOh makes sense but yeah that gpu is good tho. research was enough

[refinedskillz]

RX 495 x2 incoming?

[handymanshandle]

8 minutes ago, RuLeZ said:

My bet its a dual chip Polaris.

Especially from this Twitter post of theirs, it seems they might do a dual chip option. Or that's another dual chip card of theirs that is in this picture.

 

[BurblingBarbacoa]

17 minutes ago, T99 said:

What I was saying that the Polaris Architecture never had anything high-end, which was something that I expected. 

It was never supposed to be. Ever since the first leaks it has been expected that Polaris would be for the lower end market. 

[Sagar Das]

32 minutes ago, T99 said:

Hello guys.

 

Recently AMD released the Polaris cards. The RX 480 and 470(?). The 480 beats the 970 from green side, on DX12 titles. Has similar performance (if not better) to 970, and costs possibly less. This is next generation GPU. Well done AMD there.

 

However, if you guys think about it, AMD has been falling behind in the *latest and greatest* part in the GPU industry against Nvidia, and is going for the price per performance instead. That is not bad, now theoretically there should be an RX 490 somehow waiting for us in a corner.. due to AMD's naming convention. R7 370 - RX 470. R9 380 - RX 480 and possibly R9 390 - RX 490. I predict that the 490 (if it even releases) will come between the performance of a GTX 980 and a 980ti in DX11 Titles, and completely throw 980ti in the trash in DX12 titles such as Doom.

 

I agree - Most people fanboy Nvidia / AMD and is mostly ignorant of what the opposing manufacturer has to offer. I hate fanboys - Nvidia or AMD. As a Nvidia type of person myself, I am not a fanboy, but just a fan. AMD make good GPUs, and so does Nvidia. But there has always been one thing that is unclear in my mind - What is their top of the line latest and greatest GPU? If you can correct me in the comments that would be great. But I personally think there is a good chance it is the R9 Fury X. Let's compare that to an Nvidia Equivalent, GTX 980(ti)? The 980 was Nvidia's top of the line GPU 22 months ago, and probably was the best GPU aside from the Titan Z (2* 780) (Kepler). Pardon me on my lack of knowledge for AMD GPUs, but I believe that the Fury X was released with the 390x. (970 / 980 performance) Which was 14/15 months ago (??). Now a top of the line AMD GPU can justify a comparison to a top of the line Nvidia GPU nearly 3 seasons older than that card is quite shocking.

 

The whole point of this thread was say, that I really expected more on the red team, and make some high performance and premium products that can compete with the new Pascal GPUs. Now that the Titan X has been released, the architecture AMD is expected to release in 2017 is pointless, considering the top of the line for that arc. is similar to a 1080. Did this not happen with Polaris? RX 480 OC can compare with 980? 

 

 

I would really want AMD to make some exciting products that is on the par with a  Titan X Pascal at least, it doesn't have to be cheap, at least it can amuse consumers of what AMD can actually product.

 

 

No hate on AMD, just expected something exciting with Polaris and didn't get it.

I think rx490 will be a duel gpu card? and could be unveiled at capsaicin (it could be a water cooled card)

[GirlFromYonder]

17 minutes ago, wcreek said:

Especially from this Twitter post of theirs, it seems they might do a dual chip option. Or that's another dual chip card of theirs that is in this picture.

 

what ever it is that cooler is SEXY

[handymanshandle]

9 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

what ever it is that cooler is SEXY

Will be interesting to see what AMD has to show off or talk about in a few days. In 22 minutes it looks like Sapphire will release info about the Nitro RX 480s.

[GirlFromYonder]

5 minutes ago, wcreek said:

Will be interesting to see what AMD has to show off or talk about in a few days. In 22 minutes it looks like Sapphire will release info about the Nitro RX 480s.

where in 22 mins

[handymanshandle]

4 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

where in 22 mins

There's a countdown on this page on Sapphire Nation. http://sapphirenation.net/NitroYear/

[GirlFromYonder]

1 minute ago, wcreek said:

There's a countdown on this page on Sapphire Nation. http://sapphirenation.net/NitroYear/

THANKS MATEY

[handymanshandle]

Just now, DeezNoNos said:

THANKS MATEY

Lol why all caps?

Also, I don't know actually where there'll be info about the Nitro 480s.