Thoughts on potential build

[YoungerDreams]

I'm going to a build a PC sometime soon and was wondering if I can get this any cheaper.  I plan on overclocking with Asus's one-click OC feature.  I wouldn't mind changing out the PSU but I want decent looking cables without having to individually sleeve them myself.  Flat black cables would probably work but if anyone else knows of a good looking PSU (with good looking cables and good performance) let me know.  The SSD is the cheapest SSD I can find for a boot drive and I can add a HDD or another SSD a few months later.  I really like the design of the case (minimalistic, but some uniqueness to it) and for $50-60 its a pretty good deal.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zQZ7WX

[xdeathshot20]

3 minutes ago, YoungerDreams said:

I'm going to a build a PC sometime soon and was wondering if I can get this any cheaper.  I plan on overclocking with Asus's one-click OC feature.  I wouldn't mind changing out the PSU but I want decent looking cables without having to individually sleeve them myself.  Flat black cables would probably work but if anyone else knows of a good looking PSU (with good looking cables and good performance) let me know.  The SSD is the cheapest SSD I can find for a boot drive and I can add a HDD or another SSD a few months later.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zQZ7WX

i would use the corsair rmx 750w psu. its cheaper,  fully modular and uses flat black cables.  used it in a recent build and is an excellent psu

[SuperMonkey507]

You could buy Windows from kinguin.net as an OEM edition for $30. Just means you can't switch motherboards without buying another key.

[YoungerDreams]

6 minutes ago, SuperMonkey507 said:

You could buy Windows from kinguin.net as an OEM edition for $30. Just means you can't switch motherboards without buying another key.

It actually might be possible for me to migrate my old old laptop's windows license since it can't really even run windows 10 anymore.  Not entirely sure though, I haven't checked if it is 32 or 64bit and I'm not sure if that could mean copying viruses from the old computer.

If I went with a PSU without braided cables (which this is the only one that I know of), I would decrease the wattage to 550-600.

[SuperMonkey507]

You could order custom cables

[YoungerDreams]

1 minute ago, SuperMonkey507 said:

You could order custom cables

Then I would need a modular PSU which are expensive anyways with 70.00 cables.  I haven't been able to find any for cheaper

[Zyndo]

You could save more on your motherboard if you go Asus Z170-E. You could also save a bunch of money if you don't get an overclocking CPU/cooler/motherboard. Contrary to popular belief, its not really "needed" for a gaming rig. You could also save money on the case by getting a Bit Fenix Nova. Cheaper and still a good case for all the reasons you mentioned. You could save a bunch of money on your PSU. You don't need that much wattage. You could also get 8GB of memory instead of 16GB to save a few more bucks. You could also get a cheaper 1070, or wait for the 1060 to come out if you need to save even more money.

6 minutes ago, SuperMonkey507 said:

You could order custom cables

He is looking to save money, not throw a couple hundred extra bucks at his computer

[stconquest]

8 minutes ago, YoungerDreams said:

Then I would need a modular PSU which are expensive anyways with 70.00 cables.  I haven't been able to find any for cheaper

If you don't plan to SLI the 1070:  http://pcpartpicker.com/product/TgW9TW/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii520bronze

 

 

or more power:  http://pcpartpicker.com/product/zTdqqs/seasonic-power-supply-ss750am2

 

[YoungerDreams]

27 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

You could save more on your motherboard if you go Asus Z170-E. You could also save a bunch of money if you don't get an overclocking CPU/cooler/motherboard. Contrary to popular belief, its not really "needed" for a gaming rig. You could also save money on the case by getting a Bit Fenix Nova. Cheaper and still a good case for all the reasons you mentioned. You could save a bunch of money on your PSU. You don't need that much wattage. You could also get 8GB of memory instead of 16GB to save a few more bucks. You could also get a cheaper 1070, or wait for the 1060 to come out if you need to save even more money.

He is looking to save money, not throw a couple hundred extra bucks at his computer

Hm, I didn't notice the E was so much cheaper.  Its only real downside is it doesn't have USB Type A though I'm not really sure what it's used for.  The Bit Fenix Nova is a really good suggestion, I like it a lot but I think I like the dukase slightly more since it doesn't show the optical drives :p.  The cost of the case is really a pretty good deal.

 

My thought on 16GB of ram is its only $20.00 more and its really the only thing that can be truly future proofed (until like DDR6) and it might be needed later so I can transfer the ram to a new PC. 

 

As for the OCing, I figured I'd do it just in case.  I'm not sure which one will bottleneck first the 1070 or the 6500 but I figured Asus's OC to 4.6GHz on the 6600k would never bottleneck.  Thoughts?

 

Also I'm an asus fanboy so I can't change the vid card

 

Making your changes on the PSU, MOBO, RAM, and Processor save about $200.00 which is definitely something I'm considering.

Another thing I'm wondering about is the LED lighting.  I want some LED lighting like from the RAM and from the GPU but I don't want the entire case to blare blue light out.  I want it to be dark with subtle lighting shining out (like lasers, not like a flashlight).  So I've avoided LED fans and concentrated on LED components with small slots.  Think it'll work?

[Zyndo]

8 minutes ago, YoungerDreams said:

Hm, I didn't notice the E was so much cheaper.  Its only real downside is it doesn't have USB Type A though I'm not really sure what it's used for

It only lacks 3.1 type A. all that does is increase the bandwidth over 3.0. It has 2 USB 3.0 type A,  and I'm not aware of any devices that truely NEED 3.1 type A speeds (most devices that can take advantage of those speeds come with USB C/thunderbolt, and you have a 3.1 type C). So its not really needed. I mean, nice to have just in case, but if you are looking to save money, you can easily get by without it.
 

10 minutes ago, YoungerDreams said:

My thought on 16GB of ram is its only $20.00 more and its really the only thing that can be truly future proofed (until like DDR6) and it might be needed later so I can transfer the ram to a new PC. 

Certainly not a bad idea. I even agree with you. You were just looking for suggestions on how to cut back on your spending, so I offered that up =)

 

11 minutes ago, YoungerDreams said:

As for the OCing, I figured I'd do it just in case.  I'm not sure which one will bottleneck first the 1070 or the 6500 but I figured Asus's OC to 4.6GHz on the 6600k would never bottleneck.  Thoughts?

If you get a 6600 (non k) you could save 15 bucks. if you get an H170 board instead of your Z170-A you could easily save yourself 50 bucks or more (depending on how cheap you're willing to go). If you go 6600 you don't even need a CPU cooler, you can just use stock (which will bring your cost down by as much as another 35 bucks) and your CPU will still run at 3.9 GHz. You just have to ask yourself if getting to 4.6 GHz is worth all that money spent (if you can even get there with safe temperatures on your chosen air cooler). 3.9 GHz will very likely not bottleneck your 1070 except MAYBE in the most ridiculously extreme situations, and even then it would be minimal so its not a big deal.

 

15 minutes ago, YoungerDreams said:

Also I'm an asus fanboy so I can't change the vid card

If you go with my suggestion of a H170 board, Gigabyte has the best/cheapest available H170 board with USB 3.1 C. Gigabyte also offers (currently) the cheapest 1070, the G1 Gaming 1070 (40 dollars less than the Asus you linked). You could end up with a Gigabyte build instead of an Asus build if you want to save money and still keep theme.

 

17 minutes ago, YoungerDreams said:

Making your changes on the PSU, MOBO, RAM, and Processor save about $200.00 which is definitely something I'm considering.

Yeah I come out to about the same number. You could shave another 30-ish bucks off this if you go 8GB RAM instead, but here is about 200 bucks off the build you want without really giving up any real world performance.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/s3YZRG
 

This build was done with the desire to save money. If you really want Asus, I'm sure you could get a good H170 board for only a few bucks more than that gigabyte board and then you could get your Asus 1070. At the end of the day, if you plan on using this computer for several years, it would really suck to cheap out on 200 bucks now and have to live with something sub-par for the next several years. Its a good idea to save money, sure, but its also a good idea to get exactly what you want.