Erm.. Help

[Nyxathid]

Okay, I'm a retard But I need help. 

 

So I bought a SSD and I was on Win 10, and I wanted to make that my boot drive, so I downloaded the "Media Creation Tool" from MS to perform a CLEAN install of win 10, but half way through my pc was giving errors(because of my USB stick they recommend a 3GB one and I only had a 1TB external HDD) so I have up on that idea and went ahead and picked up my Win7 disk, booted it up, and here is where it gets out of hand, so where it asked me to install the OS I selected the SSD, but before I started the process I formatted my HDD, and selected "Go" after a couple of minutes, it was done the PC rebooted, and for about 30 seconds the screen said :

Select OS: 

Win7

Win10

And I was like what the... Either way I pressed the Win7 got into Windows7, and I couldn't even connect to the Internet, rebooted, same message, but this time I selected Win 10 gave me a few options like, restore Win 10 and delete other OS (at this point in time I was freaked out. I just wanted to go to sleep) I pressed enter and after a couple of seconds it said "it occurred an error", I said fuck it. Turned off my pc, disconnected my SSD (I formatted it), put on my installation disk of Win7, and installed on my HDD, got into Win7 after a while, and same problem. Now, I wanna go back into Win 10, with my SSD as my boot drive and my Hard Drive for media, games, and so on... 

[QFA350]

if you are not connecting to the internet, you need to install your mobo drivers

[Nyxathid]

4 minutes ago, Warning said:

if you are not connecting to the internet, you need to install your mobo drivers

Hmm... Also note, I have a Wireless Card installed on my system. But I will try it.. 

 

Also keep posting suggestions, I will read them all in the morning, it's currently 5 am here

[Naeaes]

22 minutes ago, Nyxathid said:

Hmm... Also note, I have a Wireless Card installed on my system. But I will try it.. 

 

Also keep posting suggestions, I will read them all in the morning, it's currently 5 am here

Ok, so the Win10 installation crashed mid-install. That OS is never going to work. You need to finish the installation. The thing about a flash drive is that it's faster than an external HDD. That might be the reason for the hang. Anyway. You can get past that.

What you witnessed during bootup, the prompt to select the OS, was Microsoft's automated multiboot system. The selection between the operating systems is separate from the operating systems themselves. You could think of it as a tiny operating system in itself. So even if neither of the OSs works, the selection can still be there and it's techically fully functioning.

Just to recap, the reason your Win 10 almost worked but didn't fully work is that the installation didn't finish.

The reason your Win 7 won't go online is that you don't have the drivers installed. You need to install the divers for your Wifi card. If you're like 99 out of a hundred users and the CD that came with the card for this very reason, is lost forever, you'll need a second computer for this. Download the drivers onto your external HDD and install them from there. Then when you get internet on the machine, download the rest of the drivers. 

 

If you don't want to go thumbstick shopping or just want to save time, scrap the current installations. Install Win 7 from the DVD onto the SSD, install drivers, activate the OS and use the in-OS upgrade to windows 10. Then when you get that done and have made sure you have all your drivers and the activation in order, search the OS for "reset this PC". That'll remove the remains of the seven and clean up the Win 10 installation. It'll be just as clean as Win 10 ever was. 

 

If you do decide to do this, make sure you remove (not just format! remove them) all partitions on both drives and only have the SSD plugged in during the process. You do not want to retain this misinformed Bootsector with the multiboot enabled. Nor do you want your bootsector to wind up on the HDD.

 

Tl;Dr: Reinstall + use a second computer to download the Wi-Fi drivers.

[Nyxathid]

11 hours ago, Naeaes said:

Ok, so the Win10 installation crashed mid-install. That OS is never going to work. You need to finish the installation. The thing about a flash drive is that it's faster than an external HDD. That might be the reason for the hang. Anyway. You can get past that.

What you witnessed during bootup, the prompt to select the OS, was Microsoft's automated multiboot system. The selection between the operating systems is separate from the operating systems themselves. You could think of it as a tiny operating system in itself. So even if neither of the OSs works, the selection can still be there and it's techically fully functioning.

Just to recap, the reason your Win 10 almost worked but didn't fully work is that the installation didn't finish.

The reason your Win 7 won't go online is that you don't have the drivers installed. You need to install the divers for your Wifi card. If you're like 99 out of a hundred users and the CD that came with the card for this very reason, is lost forever, you'll need a second computer for this. Download the drivers onto your external HDD and install them from there. Then when you get internet on the machine, download the rest of the drivers. 

 

If you don't want to go thumbstick shopping or just want to save time, scrap the current installations. Install Win 7 from the DVD onto the SSD, install drivers, activate the OS and use the in-OS upgrade to windows 10. Then when you get that done and have made sure you have all your drivers and the activation in order, search the OS for "reset this PC". That'll remove the remains of the seven and clean up the Win 10 installation. It'll be just as clean as Win 10 ever was. 

 

If you do decide to do this, make sure you remove (not just format! remove them) all partitions on both drives and only have the SSD plugged in during the process. You do not want to retain this misinformed Bootsector with the multiboot enabled. Nor do you want your bootsector to wind up on the HDD.

 

Tl;Dr: Reinstall + use a second computer to download the Wi-Fi drivers.

Okay just a question, a) how do I remove the partitions? 

[Nyxathid]

UPDATE: I installed my drivers, video, Wi-Fi card, bios, but here's a problem, win7 doesn't recognize USB sticks(code 28) , mouse and keyboard do work but

the mouse wheel doesn't. (I installed win7 on my HDD) 

[Nyxathid]

Seriously I need help... 

[Naeaes]

18 hours ago, Nyxathid said:

UPDATE: I installed my drivers, video, Wi-Fi card, bios, but here's a problem, win7 doesn't recognize USB sticks(code 28) , mouse and keyboard do work but

the mouse wheel doesn't. (I installed win7 on my HDD) 

Sounds like you haven't installed the USB drivers from the motherboard manufacturer but from some other source. Maybe Windows updates? The keyboard and mouse need drivers too. Windows has a universal driver for them called a pnp driver but often with that specialized stuff like extra buttons on mice or media buttons on keyboards won't work. But sort the USB driver issue first. Your peripherals may well start working after that. Your bio has no info about the motherboard so I can't really help you with the correct drivers. I do know that since it's an older machine, the USB controller is in the chipset and not built into the CPU. And the chipset was split into two chips called the north and the south bridges. Simply installing the chipset driver from the motherboard manufacturer should have installed the USB driver too. Maybe you didn't install the chipset driver or it didn't install correctly? Back with those old Intel setups it was kind of crucial that you installed the chipset driver and the IME drivers first before anything else. So much low level stuff was built into them. Kind of hard to build a three-story house without a sturdy foundation.

[Nyxathid]

2 hours ago, Naeaes said:

Sounds like you haven't installed the USB drivers from the motherboard manufacturer but from some other source. Maybe Windows updates? The keyboard and mouse need drivers too. Windows has a universal driver for them called a pnp driver but often with that specialized stuff like extra buttons on mice or media buttons on keyboards won't work. But sort the USB driver issue first. Your peripherals may well start working after that. Your bio has no info about the motherboard so I can't really help you with the correct drivers. I do know that since it's an older machine, the USB controller is in the chipset and not built into the CPU. And the chipset was split into two chips called the north and the south bridges. Simply installing the chipset driver from the motherboard manufacturer should have installed the USB driver too. Maybe you didn't install the chipset driver or it didn't install correctly? Back with those old Intel setups it was kind of crucial that you installed the chipset driver and the IME drivers first before anything else. So much low level stuff was built into them. Kind of hard to build a three-story house without a sturdy foundation.

Hey, sorry for the late reply/update  but I just installed Win10 and everything worked, bios was updated, usb's port's working, everything was okay  Sorry for the late reply