Mini-ITX case

[laminutederire]

1 minute ago, byalexandr said:

Looking at builds on PCPartPicker using that cooler and a 6600K, the temp range seems to be 45-50C on load, without an overclock (in a small case as well). I'd say you can get it to 3.8-4.0GHz without much problem. Although bear in mind the 6600K is already a fast chip, I don't see why you'er so focused on overclocking it. Even a small OC to 3.7-3.8GHz will be more than fine.

I was aiming at 4.0GHz for physics simulation which are CPU only

But I may be over reasonable

[byalexandr]

1 minute ago, laminutederire said:

I was aiming at 4.0GHz for physics simulation which are CPU only

But I may be over reasonable

A couple hundred MHz won't hurt it too much. If you want more power from the get go without having to overclock so much than you can look at a 6700K instead, or even go X99 with and AsRock X99E-ITX.

[laminutederire]

1 minute ago, byalexandr said:

A couple hundred MHz won't hurt it too much. If you want more power from the get go without having to overclock so much than you can look at a 6700K instead, or even go X99 with and AsRock X99E-ITX.

Yeah... I was looking at that in the first place. But I don't really have the money

[byalexandr]

4 minutes ago, laminutederire said:

Yeah... I was looking at that in the first place. But I don't really have the money

It might be better to save up for the 6700K instead of dumping more heat into the system

 

But the 6600K is no slouch, OC or not.

[laminutederire]

1 minute ago, byalexandr said:

It might be better to save up for the 6700K instead of dumping more heat into the system

 

But the 6600K is no slouch, OC or not.

Yeah of course, especially when you only have an HP mid range 2 year old laptop

Are silverstone Sugo cases any good?

[porina]

3 minutes ago, laminutederire said:

I was aiming at 4.0GHz for physics simulation which are CPU only

But I may be over reasonable

4 GHz is easy on Skylake. You might even attain it below default voltage. At least, on one of my 6700k does 4.2 GHz at 1.25v set which is lower than the bios picks for default 4.0 GHz. I'm too lazy to find the minimum voltage needed. As for cooling, Hyper 212 class is adequate for that. You wont get the lowest temps but it'll be ok, providing your case has enough flow to feed it fresh cooler air.

 

Also there wont be an advantage in heat terms going to a 6700k, which could run a little hotter through HT if usable by the app. Then again, that could give more performance, again if supported.

[byalexandr]

1 minute ago, laminutederire said:

Yeah of course, especially when you only have an HP mid range 2 year old laptop

Are silverstone Sugo cases any good?

I actually have a lot of experience with the SG05 and SG13 (I have a couple of SG05s and one SG13) and they are absolutely stellar cases. They are quite a bit smaller than the Core 500, and they can still hold full length GPUs. The SG05 is a touch smaller, but it is the older version. Back when there was only the SG05, if we wanted a really long GPU you had to modify the case, or if you wanted a full size PSU, mode the case, etc. etc. The SG13 on the other hand comes with all of those mods built in plus it has some extra structural integrity that really stiffens up the chassis.

 

Since you plan on getting an RX 480, it'll fit in either case. But the SG13 does support more hardware in it's stock form, so I'd get that. It holds an ATX PSU by default and it has space for a 120mm radiator. 140mm radiator if you cut out some space given to the GPU.

[laminutederire]

2 minutes ago, porina said:

4 GHz is easy on Skylake. You might even attain it below default voltage. At least, on one of my 6700k does 4.2 GHz at 1.25v set which is lower than the bios picks for default 4.0 GHz. I'm too lazy to find the minimum voltage needed. As for cooling, Hyper 212 class is adequate for that. You wont get the lowest temps but it'll be ok, providing your case has enough flow to feed it fresh cooler air.

 

Also there wont be an advantage in heat terms going to a 6700k, which could run a little hotter through HT if usable by the app. Then again, that could give more performance, again if supported.

anything running under 70 degrees under full load is acceptable, I'm not that picky ^^

[laminutederire]

1 hour ago, byalexandr said:

I actually have a lot of experience with the SG05 and SG13 (I have a couple of SG05s and one SG13) and they are absolutely stellar cases. They are quite a bit smaller than the Core 500, and they can still hold full length GPUs. The SG05 is a touch smaller, but it is the older version. Back when there was only the SG05, if we wanted a really long GPU you had to modify the case, or if you wanted a full size PSU, mode the case, etc. etc. The SG13 on the other hand comes with all of those mods built in plus it has some extra structural integrity that really stiffens up the chassis.

 

Since you plan on getting an RX 480, it'll fit in either case. But the SG13 does support more hardware in it's stock form, so I'd get that. It holds an ATX PSU by default and it has space for a 120mm radiator. 140mm radiator if you cut out some space given to the GPU.

I revised everything, changing my strategy.

Here the final build minus the GPU:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbMTHN
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbMTHN/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Enermax Liqtech 120X 111.0 CFM Ball Bearing Liquid CPU Cooler  ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($59.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($154.85 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone Sugo SG13B Mini ITX Tower Case  ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair SF600 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply
Total: $801.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-27 10:01 EDT-040

 

What do you think? Could I optimize it? (Is the power supply enough? I calculated something around 350W without the peripherals (Mouse keyboard and headset) )

[byalexandr]

9 hours ago, laminutederire said:

I revised everything, changing my strategy.

Here the final build minus the GPU:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbMTHN
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbMTHN/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Enermax Liqtech 120X 111.0 CFM Ball Bearing Liquid CPU Cooler  ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($59.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($154.85 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone Sugo SG13B Mini ITX Tower Case  ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair SF600 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply
Total: $801.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-27 10:01 EDT-040

 

What do you think? Could I optimize it? (Is the power supply enough? I calculated something around 350W without the peripherals (Mouse keyboard and headset) )

If you do get SFX I would get a Silverstone PSU instead. But if you get an ATX PSU I would get something like a GS or G2 from EVGA. Even 300W would be plenty for an RX 480 and 6600K.

[laminutederire]

23 minutes ago, byalexandr said:

If you do get SFX I would get a Silverstone PSU instead. But if you get an ATX PSU I would get something like a GS or G2 from EVGA. Even 300W would be plenty for an RX 480 and 6600K.

Well in known retailers we only have two SFX psu which are the corsair one at 450W and 600W. There is also a Silverstone one but it's very damn expensive and only come in 600W.

And for atx one we don't have any from EVGA. We do have seasonic ones

Isn't SFX a must have in  small cases like that?

(i hope we'll have RX 480, because there are a lot of things we lacks of unfortunately  )

[byalexandr]

24 minutes ago, laminutederire said:

Well in known retailers we only have two SFX psu which are the corsair one at 450W and 600W. There is also a Silverstone one but it's very damn expensive and only come in 600W.

And for atx one we don't have any from EVGA. We do have seasonic ones

Isn't SFX a must have in  small cases like that?

(i hope we'll have RX 480, because there are a lot of things we lacks of unfortunately  )

I'd prefer to get an ATX PSU in this case. Sure it makes it harder to build in but the room it takes up makes the build seem even smaller.

[laminutederire]

4 minutes ago, byalexandr said:

I'd prefer to get an ATX PSU in this case. Sure it makes it harder to build in but the room it takes up makes the build seem even smaller.

Well an ATX PSU would probably be annoying when it comes to air cooling since it wouldn't necessarily help the airflow, but water-cooled that's not an issue  (and it can balance the price as well) I still feel like Watercooling may be too much, but every build I see uses Watercooling to achieve good temperature so... people don't seem to air cool as efficiently