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Hard drive defragging

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1. How often should I defrag my hard drive?

2. At what percent of disk fragmentation should I run a defrag?

3. What defrag tool do you use? Is the built-in one good enough?

 

OT last question, should I disable indexing?

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1. When it becomes an issue (if loading certain data sets is slowed

2. 20+ish percent seems to be where computers tend to start slowing down as a result in my experience

3 Window's tool is fine

 

 Last one, hmmm well it can improve data fetch speeds but I can't remember if there is a downside or not

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I've tried out 15 disk defrag software throughout the years. Auslogics DiskDefrag was by far the best; defragging was much faster, you can set up idle runs and specific time of day runs; idle should stop when the drive goes under a user based load; you can set it to use a specific % of the units performance; so it can run in the background without ruining your gaming experience. Defraging 3% on a 5tb hdd took only 5 minutes, it also updates often and you can suggest updates and changes. However the negative is, this software is freeware, it has ads within the software, and ads in the installation, unless you purchase their premium model. 

It has SSD optimizations and trim support, it displays an easy to understand fragmentation grid, it displays SMART, VSS support, disk cleanup, defragging file systems [most defrag software moves files so the disk doesn't have to seek, but won't defrag registry etc.], allows for exclusion of specific folders and files, allows skipping specific file sizes and also allows you to move all system files and commonly accessed files to the beginning of the HDD"short stroking" [because on a HDD the first ~10% of the drive is generally faster than the rest of the drive. This is a great feature, if you don't want to partition the dive to certain segments, you will also lose less performance on the other 90% compared to partitioning. This is best used if the HDD is your boot drive.] Refer to the video below for more information on the last feature mentioned.

 

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And just as a quick note, do not defrag SSDs. 

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51 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

And just as a quick note, do not defrag SSDs. 

Windows does some SSD defragmentation on it's own

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1 minute ago, zMeul said:

Windows does some SSD defragmentation on it's own

It might, but that is a special case scenario. There's no point to go out of your way to do it yourself. 

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1 minute ago, Godlygamer23 said:

There's no point to go out of your way to do it yourself. 

true

 

although it wouldn't "hurt" to do it once in 6 months

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20 minutes ago, zMeul said:

true

 

although it wouldn't "hurt" to do it once in 6 months

If you defrag an SSD like an HDD say good bye to that SSD. Well it probably won't kill it but the performance will be dead

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1 hour ago, SamStrecker said:

If you defrag an SSD like an HDD say good bye to that SSD. Well it probably won't kill it but the performance will be dead

you don't defrag it like a HDD, but once in a blue moon you might wanna do it, especially if you move data around that SSD

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2 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

If you defrag an SSD like an HDD say good bye to that SSD. Well it probably won't kill it but the performance will be dead

Eventually it will if done too much. Any writes done to an SSD shortens its life. 

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On 10.06.2016 г. at 4:24 PM, djdelarosa25 said:

~snip~

 

Hi :)

 

A few notes from me on the subject:
- You can occasionally check your drive for the level of fragmentation you have and depending on that the OS may suggest defragmentation. Fragmentation may cost performance from the computer so it's suggested to check more often. Using third-party tools is also not a bad idea as they have additional functionality over the built-in tools in the OS. 

 

- This is a complicated question. For regular usage you don't need to run whenever you see 1% fragmentation but whenever you see the percentage rising you could do that. Fragmentation does not wear out a HDD so if you do it more often you won't suffer health loss. 

 

- As I pointed out, the tool built in the OS is good but does not offer the additional features of a good third-party tool. I'd do some reasearch on the benefits that each popular tools provide over the basic built-in tool. 

 

- When it comes to SSDs things are totally different. SSDs by default run fragmented so their cells get worn out evenly. Defragging a SSD is strongly discouraged as it does a lot of writing to it and wears it out a lot and the SSD will eventually fragment itself purposefully so it can distribute the data evenly again. 

 

- If you are suffering from bad performance due to the HDD defragging may fix the issue but it's not a huge concern for modern HDDs. I would recommend to also keep an eye on the drive's S.M.A.R.T. status and make sure all the values there are stable and don't show anything alarming.

 

Post back if you have any further questions! 

 

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