High-end Desktop

[Dzzope]

i meant vs the bigger chips.

[stanzlavos]

13 hours ago, Matias_Chambers said:

Would you rather have a 4K monitor or a high refresh rate monitor?

I want to stick with a 1440p, 120/144Hz monitor with a decent response time.

13 hours ago, Matias_Chambers said:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zMKWGf

Thank you very much for spending all the time to provide the config.  A few things :

1) As mentioned, I have uses other than gaming (photo editing and matlab programs). Any reason why you are pushing away from X99 ?

2) I am from India. Most of the stuff are cheaper in the US.  

3) Any reason for choosing the MSI gaming GTX1080 over the Asus Strix version ?

4) The monitor you chose is awesome, but it will cost me a lot more here in India.  Instead of the Asus MG279Q I could opt for the Asus ROG Swift PG278Q (but it has only one displayport 1.2)

[stanzlavos]

And one small query regarding the PSU :

The Rampage V extreme needs one 8pin for the CPU and then additional 4 pin as well. So, I guess I'd use one more 8pin available on the PSU for this.

The Asus strix GTX 1080 requires 6+8. So there goes two more 8pin connections available in the PSU. And I would like to keep an option open for a two way SLI. So one more GTX1080 later on would mean 2 more connectors.

So, in all I would require six 8pin slots on the PSU. The 8pin connection available on the Corsair PSUs are marked as "6+2 PCI-E & 4+4 CPU". The number of slots available are :

750x : 3
850x : 5
1000x : 6

So I will have to go with the 1000x ? Or any other option ?

[Guest]

3 hours ago, stanzlavos said:

And one small query regarding the PSU :

The Rampage V extreme needs one 8pin for the CPU and then additional 4 pin as well. So, I guess I'd use one more 8pin available on the PSU for this.

The Asus strix GTX 1080 requires 6+8. So there goes two more 8pin connections available in the PSU. And I would like to keep an option open for a two way SLI. So one more GTX1080 later on would mean 2 more connectors.

So, in all I would require six 8pin slots on the PSU. The 8pin connection available on the Corsair PSUs are marked as "6+2 PCI-E & 4+4 CPU". The number of slots available are :

750x : 3
850x : 5
1000x : 6

So I will have to go with the 1000x ? Or any other option ?

You probably won't need the additional 4 pin cpu connector. Try with just the 8 pin first. The extra 4 pin is most likely just for additional power for overclocking the cpu.

 

The pcie cables are 6 + 2 and there are two connectors per cable, so you would only need a single cable per gpu.

 

You will be fine with the 850W RMx.

[Matias_Chambers]

7 hours ago, stanzlavos said:

I want to stick with a 1440p, 120/144Hz monitor with a decent response time.

Thank you very much for spending all the time to provide the config.  A few things :

1) As mentioned, I have uses other than gaming (photo editing and matlab programs). Any reason why you are pushing away from X99 ?

2) I am from India. Most of the stuff are cheaper in the US.  

3) Any reason for choosing the MSI gaming GTX1080 over the Asus Strix version ?

4) The monitor you chose is awesome, but it will cost me a lot more here in India.  Instead of the Asus MG279Q I could opt for the Asus ROG Swift PG278Q (but it has only one displayport 1.2)

I chose the 6700K because all the other stuff you do, doesn't really benefit from 12 threads anyways and the 6700K will perform better in games due to better single core perforamce and IPC. 

[stanzlavos]

3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

You probably won't need the additional 4 pin cpu connector. Try with just the 8 pin first. The extra 4 pin is most likely just for additional power for overclocking the cpu.

 

The pcie cables are 6 + 2 and there are two connectors per cable, so you would only need a single cable per gpu.

 

You will be fine with the 850W RMx.

1) OK, I don't mind trying with a single CPU connection. But I did see a few people who could not boot up with only the single 8pin connection. Maybe it was after an overclock. Now, I do intend to spend some quality time overclocking the CPU. So, is it safe to assume that I would need two 8pin connection from the PSU after a good overclock ?

 

2) The Asus Strix GTX1080 has two power connectors : 8pin + 6pin

 

So that adds up to 6 in SLI. See, the point is, when I know that there is a possibility that I would need 6 eight pin connections, is it not safe to go with a PSU that offers it ?  I don't want to get a new PSU later on ?

 

Anyhow, I am thinking on waiting for a weak or two. Wait for cards from other vendors. Maybe MSI gaming Z ? Or EVGA ? To be frank, I don't mind going ahead with the Asus though...  

[stanzlavos]

2 hours ago, Matias_Chambers said:

I chose the 6700K because all the other stuff you do, doesn't really benefit from 12 threads anyways and the 6700K will perform better in games due to better single core perforamce and IPC. 

After putting photo editing and some intensive matlab programs on the table, does the 5820K make more sense ?

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, stanzlavos said:

1) OK, I don't mind trying with a single CPU connection. But I did see a few people who could not boot up with only the single 8pin connection. Maybe it was after an overclock. Now, I do intend to spend some quality time overclocking the CPU. So, is it safe to assume that I would need two 8pin connection from the PSU after a good overclock ?

 

2) The Asus Strix GTX1080 has two power connectors : 8pin + 6pin

 

So that adds up to 6 in SLI. See, the point is, when I know that there is a possibility that I would need 6 eight pin connections, is it not safe to go with a PSU that offers it ?  I don't want to get a new PSU later on ?

 

Anyhow, I am thinking on waiting for a weak or two. Wait for cards from other vendors. Maybe MSI gaming Z ? Or EVGA ? To be frank, I don't mind going ahead with the Asus though...  

The Asus Rampage board has an 8 pin cpu socket and a 4 pin cpu socket. The Corsair RMx 850W has 2 x 4+4 connectors so you can plug both in if it doesn't boot with just the 8 pin.

 

The pcie cables have 2 x 6+2 connectors on each cable which you can use as either 8 pin or 6 pin, so for SLI you would only need 2 cables.

 

On the back of the RMx 850W you have 5 x sockets which are for the pcie cables and cpu cables. In total you have 3 pcie cables and 2 cpu cables so you are fine.

 

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Cases-and-Cooling/Corsair-RMx-Series-Fully-Modular-850W-Power-Supply-Review/Detailed-Look

 

 

This shows everything plugged in:

 

http://www.pcper.com/image/view/62007?return=node%2F63903

[stanzlavos]

8 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

The Asus Rampage board has an 8 pin cpu socket and a 4 pin cpu socket. The Corsair RMx 850W has 2 x 4+4 connectors so you can plug both in if it doesn't boot with just the 8 pin.

 

The pcie cables have 2 x 6+2 connectors on each cable which you can use as either 8 pin or 6 pin, so for SLI you would only need 2 cables.

 

On the back of the RMx 850W you have 5 x sockets which are for the pcie cables and cpu cables. In total you have 3 pcie cables and 2 cpu cables so you are fine.

 

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Cases-and-Cooling/Corsair-RMx-Series-Fully-Modular-850W-Power-Supply-Review/Detailed-Look

 

 

This shows everything plugged in:

 

http://www.pcper.com/image/view/62007?return=node%2F63903

Got it!!!!  Finally

 

A single cable plugs into the 8pin socket on the PSU. On the other end there are two connectors that I can plug into the card.

 

So the 850x should suffice.  I will also search for some other PSU the offers the same but at a lower rating. 

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, stanzlavos said:

Got it!!!!  Finally

 

A single cable plugs into the 8pin socket on the PSU. On the other end there are two connectors that I can plug into the card.

 

So the 850x should suffice.  I will also search for some other PSU the offers the same but at a lower rating. 

 

Correct 

[stanzlavos]

OK... open questions : 

 

1) 6800K ? Worth the upgrade ?

2) Asus Rampage V Extreme.. I love the motherboard. Anyhow, any good replacement option?  Need to be red+black (or full black I guess). WiFi, decent sound, decent fan cntrl system. Should be OC friendly. 

3) GSkill Ripjaws V DDDR4 2666 ? Should be fine right ? Should I go 2800 ?

4) Any input on which GTX 1080 to get is also welcome.

 

And just to get an idea : I haven'tgot a desktop in years. Have been using an Asus G73JH for some time now. The question is related to sound levels. Once everything is in the case, say the cpu cooler is a lil noisy. Will it be that much audible ? The deepcool cpu cooler am interested in offers decent performance. It is not the best out there but price-wise its on the lower side. And, it is red+black.

[Matias_Chambers]

18 hours ago, stanzlavos said:

After putting photo editing and some intensive matlab programs on the table, does the 5820K make more sense ?

Well you wouldn't really see a difference.  The 5820K is better for heavily multithreaded applications. The 6700K can handle pretty much program and has higher singlecore performance and IPC. Photo editing isn't really the most intensive thing. I don't know anything about Matlab programs but if they can take advantage of the extra cores and threads then go for the 6800K

[stanzlavos]

38 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

Well you wouldn't really see a difference.  The 5820K is better for heavily multithreaded applications. The 6700K can handle pretty much program and has higher singlecore performance and IPC. Photo editing isn't really the most intensive thing. I don't know anything about Matlab programs but if they can take advantage of the extra cores and threads then go for the 6800K

 

Matlab programs do use multiple cores. So, I am taking 6700K out of the picture completely.

 

And I think I made up my mind regarding the CPU.  Now, as you suggested, being the new CPU, the 6800K is what I would go for. But, it costs around 90USD more than the 5820K. Maybe it gives 10-15% more performance ? But, looks like it doesn't overclock that very well. From a review at "tomshardware", the 6800K did hit 4.5Ghz but at a Vcore of 1.5V and they had to go down to 4.4 to make it stable. It could be a problem with the chip they got.  Anyhow, I haven't seen any other promising overclocking results for the 6800K. Would be a better option to stick with the proven 5820K (and hope I get lucky) ?

[Guest]

I would stick with the 5820K if you are going for an X99 build. If the price was $20 difference for the 6800K then it would be worth going for the newer cpu but I personally don't think it is worth an extra $90 over the 5820K.

[Matias_Chambers]

42 minutes ago, stanzlavos said:

 

Matlab programs do use multiple cores. So, I am taking 6700K out of the picture completely.

 

And I think I made up my mind regarding the CPU.  Now, as you suggested, being the new CPU, the 6800K is what I would go for. But, it costs around 90USD more than the 5820K. Maybe it gives 10-15% more performance ? But, looks like it doesn't overclock that very well. From a review at "tomshardware", the 6800K did hit 4.5Ghz but at a Vcore of 1.5V and they had to go down to 4.4 to make it stable. It could be a problem with the chip they got.  Anyhow, I haven't seen any other promising overclocking results for the 6800K. Would be a better option to stick with the proven 5820K (and hope I get lucky) ?

Then get the 5820K/6800K. Is the 6800K worth it over the 5820K? No. I would personally pay the extra for the 6800K but that's just me.

[stanzlavos]

So, I guess that's one less thing to worry about. And for the RAM, I think I stick with the Ripjaws at 2666 (maybe get 3200 if they are available).

 

1) Asus Rampage V Extreme.. I love the motherboard.  Anyhow, any good replacement option?  Need to be red+black (or full black I guess). WiFi, decent sound, decent fan cntrl system. Should be OC friendly. 

2) Any input on which GTX 1080 to get is also welcome.  As of now I am sticking with the Asus Strix O8G. Does it make sense for an EVGA SC version or the MSI gaming Z version ? I am not sure if they can provide much of a significant improvement.

3) Monitor :

----- Acer XB270HU     61.3K

----- Asus PG279Q      71.6K
----- Asus MG279Q     53.4K   
----- Asus PG278Q      62.3K

 

I am unsure about a TN panel (unless someone can put forward compelling reasons for it). So maybe lower priority for the PG278Q. The MG279Q was what i had shortlisted for my build. If G-Sync is not going to benefit much, I'd like to stick to it. But as I understood, at lower frame rates, G-Sync could be very much handy. So, maybe a bit in the future, when games become more demanding and my FPS starts to drop, G-Sync would play an important role ? Then, it boils down to the Asus PG279Q and the Acer XB270HU. I did see very good reviews about the Acer and being the lower priced one, I am inclined towards it. Ideas ?

[stanzlavos]

51 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

I would stick with the 5820K if you are going for an X99 build. If the price was $20 difference for the 6800K then it would be worth going for the newer cpu but I personally don't think it is worth an extra $90 over the 5820K.

Done.

[stanzlavos]

38 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

Then get the 5820K/6800K. Is the 6800K worth it over the 5820K? No. I would personally pay the extra for the 6800K but that's just me.

 

[stanzlavos]

1) Asus Rampage V Extreme.. I love the motherboard.  Anyhow, any good replacement option?  Need to be red+black (or full black I guess). WiFi, decent sound, decent fan cntrl system. Should be OC friendly. 

2) Any input on which GTX 1080 to get is also welcome.  As of now I am sticking with the Asus Strix O8G. Does it make sense for an EVGA SC version or the MSI gaming Z version ? I am not sure if they can provide much of a significant improvement.

3) Monitor :

----- Acer XB270HU     61.3K

----- Asus PG279Q      71.6K
----- Asus MG279Q     53.4K   
----- Asus PG278Q      62.3K

 

I am unsure about a TN panel (unless someone can put forward compelling reasons for it). So maybe lower priority for the PG278Q. The MG279Q was what i had shortlisted for my build. If G-Sync is not going to benefit much, I'd like to stick to it. But as I understood, at lower frame rates, G-Sync could be very much handy. So, maybe a bit in the future, when games become more demanding and my FPS starts to drop, G-Sync would play an important role ? Then, it boils down to the Asus PG279Q and the Acer XB270HU. I did see very good reviews about the Acer and being the lower priced one, I am inclined towards it.

 

Ideas ?

[stanzlavos]

Bump...

[Guest]

On 6/8/2016 at 2:54 AM, stanzlavos said:

1) Asus Rampage V Extreme.. I love the motherboard.  Anyhow, any good replacement option?  Need to be red+black (or full black I guess). WiFi, decent sound, decent fan cntrl system. Should be OC friendly. 

2) Any input on which GTX 1080 to get is also welcome.  As of now I am sticking with the Asus Strix O8G. Does it make sense for an EVGA SC version or the MSI gaming Z version ? I am not sure if they can provide much of a significant improvement.

3) Monitor :

----- Acer XB270HU     61.3K

----- Asus PG279Q      71.6K
----- Asus MG279Q     53.4K   
----- Asus PG278Q      62.3K

 

I am unsure about a TN panel (unless someone can put forward compelling reasons for it). So maybe lower priority for the PG278Q. The MG279Q was what i had shortlisted for my build. If G-Sync is not going to benefit much, I'd like to stick to it. But as I understood, at lower frame rates, G-Sync could be very much handy. So, maybe a bit in the future, when games become more demanding and my FPS starts to drop, G-Sync would play an important role ? Then, it boils down to the Asus PG279Q and the Acer XB270HU. I did see very good reviews about the Acer and being the lower priced one, I am inclined towards it.

 

Ideas ?

 

https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-X99-GAMING/ 

 

 

Asus usually have better build quality for Monitors. I guess it depends on whether you can justify the price difference.

[stanzlavos]

25 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

 

https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-X99-GAMING/ 

 

 

Asus usually have better build quality for Monitors. I guess it depends on whether you can justify the price difference.

Mmmmm... Both the Asus PG279Q and the Acer XB270HU seems to have back-light bleed issues I guess.  Hopefully I get something good. I have my eyes on the  Acer XB271HU, but it is not yet available in India guess.  Most probably I would be getting the XB270HU...

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, stanzlavos said:

Mmmmm... Both the Asus PG279Q and the Acer XB270HU seems to have back-light bleed issues I guess.  Hopefully I get something good. I have my eyes on the  Acer XB271HU, but it is not yet available in India guess.  Most probably I would be getting the XB270HU...

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/asus-is-replacing-rog-swift-pg279q-monitors-subjected-to-ips-glow-and-backlight-bleeding/#:nhBXbKHh7ZzbvA

 

 

That motherboard I linked above might not be available yet also, as it is pretty new. It should be priced lower than the Rampage V Extreme though.