Fx 6300 overclock.

[Ghost0625]

Hey guys. I am new at overclocking let's put that out there. Anyway, I'm not nessisarily asking what the 6300 is able to overclock too, I know each chip is different. I am mostly asking how to set one. I'm not sure what to do or where to start. I have a msi 970 gaming mobo with click bios 4 and oc genie which only set the processor at its Max turbo speed. I am running a hyper 212 eve air cooler. Just a few tips on how to overclock would be great. Please don't give me too much crap about why I want to overclock a 6 core, I'm not looking to shatter any records. I just want to learn how to do it. Thanks.

[KearneyMC]

1 hour ago, Ghost0625 said:

Hey guys. I am new at overclocking let's put that out there. Anyway, I'm not nessisarily asking what the 6300 is able to overclock too, I know each chip is different. I am mostly asking how to set one. I'm not sure what to do or where to start. I have a msi 970 gaming mobo with click bios 4 and oc genie which only set the processor at its Max turbo speed. I am running a hyper 212 eve air cooler. Just a few tips on how to overclock would be great. Please don't give me too much crap about why I want to overclock a 6 core, I'm not looking to shatter any records. I just want to learn how to do it. Thanks.

Increase by 100mhz each time 

[-rascal-]

5 hours ago, KearneyMC said:

Increase by 100mhz each time 

Yes and no.

The FX-6300 (along with other socket AM3+ FX CPUs) have a Base clock of 200 MHz.

You don't want to increase the Base Clock by 100 MHz. You want to increase the overall CPU frequency.

 

@Ghost0625

Since the FX-6300 has an unlocked multiplier, it can be overclocked by adjusting the CPU multiplier.

Increasing the multiplier up by one yields a 200 MHz overclock.

Leave the Base Clock at the stock 200 MHz.

Stock FX-6300 is 3.5 GHz (200 MHz X 17.5)

 

The "average" overclock on most FX CPU's are in the 4.4 GHz ~ 4.6 GHz.

4.7 GHz ~ 4.8 GHz is uncommon.

4.9 ~ 5.0+ GHz is quite rare -- especially with air cooling.

 

1. Run a quick stress test on your FX-6300 at STOCK settings so you get a reference starting point.
   1. Use something like AIDA64 Stability Test, or Prime95 small FFT for stress testing
   2. This way you will have starting numbers (e.g. Core Voltage, stock temperatures, etc)
2. Increase CPU multiplier up by one (17.5 >> 18 or 18.5).
3. Save and restart.
4. Run a quick 10 minute ~ 30 minute CPU stress test.
5. If it is stable, go back into the BIOS, and increase the multiplier up by one more (18 / 18.5 >> 19 / 19.5) 
   1. If it is unstable, then increase Core (CPU) Voltage by 0.01V or 0.02V
   2. Test again
6. Repeat steps 2 ~ 5 until you reach your desired or maximum overclock.
7. Run a final, thorough stress test consisting of a few hours non-stop (e.g. 2 or 3 hours)
8. Test your overclock in a few games that you play
9. If your overclock is unstable, then you will need to further fine-tune your settings

 

TIPS:

•  Given the Cooler Master 212 EVO's cooling capacity, it would recommend that you keep the Core Voltage at 1.45V or below.
• When stress testing, keep the CPU temperature under 72*C ~ 75*C
• Enable High Performance Computing (HPC) in the UEFI BIOS
• For the sake of each troubleshooting, for now (you can re-enable them after), disable the following in the UEFI BIOS
  1. Cool' N Quiet
  2. C1E
  3. Any other power-saving features
• In Windows settings > Power Options (within Control Panel), set it to Higher Performance
• I would recommend either HWMonitor, AIDA64, or AMD OverDrive for monitoring
  • Depending on the motherboard, HWMonitor may or may not have a specific label for the CPU temperature reading. DO NOT go by the Package > Temperature reading in HWMonitor. The more accurate reading should be either "TMPIN0" or "TMPIN1" (don't exactly remember).
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My Phenom II X6 1090T on ASUS Crosshair IV Formula 890FX board (CPU idling in desktop)

 

My Phenom II X6 1090T on ASUS Crosshair V Formula 990FX board

 

My FX-8350 on ASUS Crosshair V Formula 990FX

 

FX-4130 on a Gigabyte motherboard (another LTT member)

 

FX-8350 on MSi 990FX Gaming motherboard (another LTT member)

 

FX-4100 on a Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 motherboard (another LTT forum member)

• CPU Voltage, CPU-NB Voltage, NB Voltage, and SB Voltage are all very different things. Do not get them mixed up
  • CPU Voltage is your...CPU voltage
  • CPU-NB Voltage is for the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) inside your CPU
  • NB Voltage is for the 970 chipset on your motherboard
  • SB Voltage is for the SB950 chipset on your motherboard
• You should really be onlying touch your CPU Voltage, and MAYBE a tad bit on CPU-NB as your overclock pushes closer to 4.6 ~ 4.8 GHz
• If you are going to increase the voltage for the CPU-NB, there is no real reason to exceed 1.3V; usually 1.23V ~ 1.25V is enough.
  • Stock CPU-NB voltage should be 1.200V (?)

[Nena Trinity]

In bios increase speed by 0.1 and run AMD Overdrive stability test! (repeat)

[Ghost0625]

13 hours ago, -rascal- said:

Yes and no.

The FX-6300 (along with other socket AM3+ FX CPUs) have a Base clock of 200 MHz.

You don't want to increase the Base Clock by 100 MHz. You want to increase the overall CPU frequency.

 

@Ghost0625

Since the FX-6300 has an unlocked multiplier, it can be overclocked by adjusting the CPU multiplier.

Increasing the multiplier up by one yields a 200 MHz overclock.

Leave the Base Clock at the stock 200 MHz.

Stock FX-6300 is 3.5 GHz (200 MHz X 17.5)

 

The "average" overclock on most FX CPU's are in the 4.4 GHz ~ 4.6 GHz.

4.7 GHz ~ 4.8 GHz is uncommon.

4.9 ~ 5.0+ GHz is quite rare -- especially with air cooling.

 

1. Run a quick stress test on your FX-6300 at STOCK settings so you get a reference starting point.
   1. Use something like AIDA64 Stability Test, or Prime95 small FFT for stress testing
   2. This way you will have starting numbers (e.g. Core Voltage, stock temperatures, etc)
2. Increase CPU multiplier up by one (17.5 >> 18 or 18.5).
3. Save and restart.
4. Run a quick 10 minute ~ 30 minute CPU stress test.
5. If it is stable, go back into the BIOS, and increase the multiplier up by one more (18 / 18.5 >> 19 / 19.5) 
   1. If it is unstable, then increase Core (CPU) Voltage by 0.01V or 0.02V
   2. Test again
6. Repeat steps 2 ~ 5 until you reach your desired or maximum overclock.
7. Run a final, thorough stress test consisting of a few hours non-stop (e.g. 2 or 3 hours)
8. Test your overclock in a few games that you play
9. If your overclock is unstable, then you will need to further fine-tune your settings

 

TIPS:

•  Given the Cooler Master 212 EVO's cooling capacity, it would recommend that you keep the Core Voltage at 1.45V or below.
• When stress testing, keep the CPU temperature under 72*C ~ 75*C
• Enable High Performance Computing (HPC) in the UEFI BIOS
• For the sake of each troubleshooting, for now (you can re-enable them after), disable the following in the UEFI BIOS
  1. Cool' N Quiet
  2. C1E
  3. Any other power-saving features
• In Windows settings > Power Options (within Control Panel), set it to Higher Performance
• I would recommend either HWMonitor, AIDA64, or AMD OverDrive for monitoring
  • Depending on the motherboard, HWMonitor may or may not have a specific label for the CPU temperature reading. DO NOT go by the Package > Temperature reading in HWMonitor. The more accurate reading should be either "TMPIN0" or "TMPIN1" (don't exactly remember).
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My Phenom II X6 1090T on ASUS Crosshair IV Formula 890FX board (CPU idling in desktop)

 

My Phenom II X6 1090T on ASUS Crosshair V Formula 990FX board

 

My FX-8350 on ASUS Crosshair V Formula 990FX

 

FX-4130 on a Gigabyte motherboard (another LTT member)

 

FX-8350 on MSi 990FX Gaming motherboard (another LTT member)

 

FX-4100 on a Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 motherboard (another LTT forum member)

• CPU Voltage, CPU-NB Voltage, NB Voltage, and SB Voltage are all very different things. Do not get them mixed up
  • CPU Voltage is your...CPU voltage
  • CPU-NB Voltage is for the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) inside your CPU
  • NB Voltage is for the 970 chipset on your motherboard
  • SB Voltage is for the SB950 chipset on your motherboard
• You should really be onlying touch your CPU Voltage, and MAYBE a tad bit on CPU-NB as your overclock pushes closer to 4.6 ~ 4.8 GHz
• If you are going to increase the voltage for the CPU-NB, there is no real reason to exceed 1.3V; usually 1.23V ~ 1.25V is enough.
  • Stock CPU-NB voltage should be 1.200V (?)

Hey, I wanted to thank you for that very detailed reply. Im working on the overclock as I type so far I have the multiplier up too 21 (4200 MHz) with no instability. I'm officially overclocked lol. I'm using AIDA 64 as my monitor. Waiting while this thing stress test sucks haha.

[Ghost0625]

@-rascal-

 

I hope I'm adjusting the right one here. There's a Max turbo Core Ratio and a Turbo Core Ratio. I have been adjusting the Turbo Core Ratio. 

[-rascal-]

9 hours ago, Ghost0625 said:

@-rascal-

 

I hope I'm adjusting the right one here. There's a Max turbo Core Ratio and a Turbo Core Ratio. I have been adjusting the Turbo Core Ratio. 

The Turbo Core frequency will scale depend on the number of active cores.

That is why there is Max Turbo Core Ratio and Turbo Core Ratio settings.

 

For an example (not exact values...just an example), at stock 3.5 GHz (4.1 GHz max) Turbo:

• 1 or 2 cores active >> 4.1 GHz
• 3 or 4 cores active >> 3.8 GHz
• 5 cores active >> 3.6 GHz
• All 6 cores active 3.5 GHz

If you adjust the Turbo Core Ratio, you are just changing those values.

 

If you want your CPU to run at a higher frequency across ALL cores, then you should be adjusting the CPU Ratio setting. This determines what the minimum speed ALL cores will run at.

 

I personally disabled "Turbo Core" on my FX-8350, so all 8 cores run at my set overclock speed...at all times (200 X 24 = 4.8 GHz).

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By the way, your 26*C CPU temperature reading in your other post is the wrong temperature reading...most likely pulling the same reading as Package > Temperature in HWMonitor (which I mentioned is inaccurate). Run the stress test again, a post a screenshot of HWMonitor open.

 

If you are stress testing, have these things opened all at the same time:

• CPU-Z (voltage + frequency readings)
• HWMonitor (temperature readings)
• AIDA64 (stress tester)

If your voltage is set to 1.4V (and not left on Auto) you should be able to push 4.4 GHz ~ 4.6 GHz without much trouble...given that temperature is in check. If you have a good chip then you may be able to push 4.7+ GHz with 1.4V.

 

( I can do 4.8 GHz across all cores with 1.40V, and 4.9 GHz with 1.45V on my FX-8350 ).

[Ghost0625]

@-rascal- So right now I have the stress test running. I have 4.8GHz across the board and according to TMPIN1 I'm running at about 45 C and hold after 12 mins. I will post a screen shot after an hour. 

[Guest]

Turn turbo off, ftw. 

 

 

[Ghost0625]

9 minutes ago, Alexokan said:

Turn turbo off, ftw. 

 

 

Turbo is off now. lol i didnt know that i wasnt at the top of the menu in the click bios. lol. turbo is off, cpu ratio is set at 24 X 200 (4800 MHz) I'm about to end the stress test. so far Temps peaked at 50 C on 50% fan speed. the test has been running for an hour. 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Ghost0625 said:

Turbo is off now. lol i didnt know that i wasnt at the top of the menu in the click bios. lol. turbo is off, cpu ratio is set at 24 X 200 (4800 MHz) I'm about to end the stress test. so far Temps peaked at 50 C on 50% fan speed. the test has been running for an hour. 

If the temp has plateaued and is steady and not climbing, you should be good to go. 

 

That's really good OC for the temps. Doesn't look like you're running any crazy fan set up, so pretty damn good.

 

I would push it further, personally. I bring my stress temperature all the way up to the thermal limit, because you will likely never push it as hard as you can synthetically. Plus, there are always the CPU smart protection (that should be enabled, unless you're reckless).  

 

cinebench it for me and report back? 

[Ghost0625]

@-rascal- Here you go. HWmonitor, CPU-Z and Aida 

[Guest]

Temp01 is not the temp you should be looking at. I believe it is northbridge or VRM temp on this board. 

[Ghost0625]

2 minutes ago, Alexokan said:

Temp01 is not the temp you should be looking at. I believe it is northbridge or VRM temp on this board. 

well then I don't know how to get an accurate temp because according to the internet something isn't right because there is no way im pushing that voltage and getting those temps.  (according to the internet.)

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, Ghost0625 said:

well then I don't know how to get an accurate temp because according to the internet something isn't right because there is no way im pushing that voltage and getting those temps.  (according to the internet.)

42c would be plausible if you're in a cold environment. 

 

What's the max temp while cinebenching? 

 

[Rylie59]

You got a pretty good chip. My FX 6300 with the same motherboard and cooler can't go above 4.3 

[Ghost0625]

54 minutes ago, Alexokan said:

42c would be plausible if you're in a cold environment. 

 

What's the max temp while cinebenching? 

 

Screen shot as soon as it finished 

[Ghost0625]

@Alexokan Im also in my basement which is usually around the ball park of 60 F or 15 C so i mean its below usual ambient temps. 

[Guest]

I don't see anything abnormal with these results. 

 

In a typical room, you'd be approaching the temp threshold of the chip. Which would make perfect sense considering your cooler and OC. (If 76F is typical, and 61C is safe operating temperature). 

 

If these are temperatures that you experience year round, no reason not to push it further IMO. 1.5v is as high as I would go. 

[Ghost0625]

1 minute ago, Alexokan said:

I don't see anything abnormal with these results. 

 

In a typical room, you'd be approaching, if not surpassing the temp threshold of the chip. Which would make perfect sense considering your cooler and OC.

 

If these are temperatures that you experience year round, no reason not to push it further IMO. 1.5v is as high as I would go. 

alright ill get back to you

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Ghost0625 said:

alright ill get back to you

Sweet! I edited that a bit. This OC would probably be fine in a 76-78F ambient temp room. At the upper limit, but fine. 

 

Just note, when moving to a different place where the temperatures are different, you'll need a back up profile OC. 

[Ghost0625]

well sad news.... 5.0GHz was not achieved at 1.5V lol. I was able to load windows but system crashed mid way through CB test. lol so I have to stick with 4.9 for now. 

[Guest]

solid OC. 

 

I would have no issue running that 24/7 in that environment. 

 

Pushing beyond 1.5v is where you're taking risk for the reward, your temps are still low on temp01 - so it's possible you can go further, but I can't recommend going any further. 

[Ghost0625]

2 minutes ago, Alexokan said:

solid OC. 

 

I would have no issue running that 24/7 in that environment. 

 

Pushing beyond 1.5v is where you're taking risk for the reward, your temps are still low on temp01 - so it's possible you can go further, but I can't recommend going any further. 

You said it man. And I am going to have to stop myself before I hurt something. Running stress on 4.9 and then I'm going back to defults. There's real no reason for me to be running that kind of OC. 

[Guest]

Oh, and there is a decent amount of performance in trading multiplier OC'ing for FSB OC'ing.

 

Set HT Link and CPU-NB to x12 and start trading the Multiplier for FSB OC. 

 

For instance, I am running 220 FSB and 21.5 multiplier to get to the 4.73 OC. 

 

Basically, if you're Max OC is 4.9, try and match that with different FSB and multiplier clocks.