Can I run bf4

[awesomeking68]

i finally saved up au$450(took me a while cuz my parents only give me au$15 a week) so that i can build me a pc link: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/fhMmPs

the only game i want to play is bf4 and watch dogs, i want to play in low settings in 720p but i just want to know how many frames i will get.

should i go with this build or just build a pc with an amd a10 7850k

can any one give me any advice

p.s.i dont want to save up any more cuz dad says it is the most i can spend 4 some reason

[don_svetlio]

You won't get anywhere with this. The CPU is garbage, the GPU is too weak to run anything, even at 480p. An A10 7890K would be the best option

[TrigrH]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

 An A10 7890K would be the best option

this^ and you might see performance gains with mantle also, bf4 will run, watch dogs idk...

[racer243l]

The AMD A10 7850k is much better. This CPU won´t cut anything, GPU... holy f***! That is just worthless! If you really want then go AMD

[don_svetlio]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7860k 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($154.00 @ Newegg Australia)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($33.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: MSI MSI A88XM-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($95.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($53.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($68.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: Antec VSK4-500 ATX Mid Tower Case w/500W Power Supply  ($84.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $487.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-29 22:41 AEST+1000

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($154.00 @ CPL Online) 
Motherboard: MSI MSI A78M-E45 V2 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($85.00 @ CPL Online) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($64.98 @ Mwave Australia) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($68.00 @ CPL Online) 
Case: Antec VSK3-500 MicroATX Mini Tower Case w/500W Power Supply  ($80.00 @ CPL Online) 
Total: $451.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-29 22:57 AEST+1000

Edited May 29, 2016 by herman mcpootis

[TrigrH]

9 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

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comes in cheaper here ($462): 

http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/pc-accessories/12182-coolermaster-hyper-t4-rr-t4-18pk-r1-universal-cpu-cooler.html

http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/pc-components/16800--amd-ad786kybjcsbx-x4-a10-7860k-quad-core-36ghz-4m-fm2-cpu-integrated-radeon-r7-series.html

http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/pc-components/5175-wd-35-blue-1tb-wd10ezex-sata3-64m-7200rpm-hdd.html

http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/home/13323--kingston-hyperx-fury-blue-hx318c10fk2-8-8g-kit-4gx2-ddr3-1866mhz-desktop-ram.html

http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/pc-components/14932-asrock-fm2a68m-hd-fm2-a88x-2xddr3-1xpcie-sata3-front-usb30-hdmi-dvi-d-sub-matx-motherboard.html

http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/with-psu/15680--antec-vsk4-500-usb30-mid-tower-case-with-500watt-psu.html

 

that is that mobo okay?

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, TrigrH said:

comes in cheaper here ($462): 

http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/pc-accessories/12182-coolermaster-hyper-t4-rr-t4-18pk-r1-universal-cpu-cooler.html

http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/pc-components/16800--amd-ad786kybjcsbx-x4-a10-7860k-quad-core-36ghz-4m-fm2-cpu-integrated-radeon-r7-series.html

http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/pc-components/5175-wd-35-blue-1tb-wd10ezex-sata3-64m-7200rpm-hdd.html

http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/home/13323--kingston-hyperx-fury-blue-hx318c10fk2-8-8g-kit-4gx2-ddr3-1866mhz-desktop-ram.html

http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/pc-components/14932-asrock-fm2a68m-hd-fm2-a88x-2xddr3-1xpcie-sata3-front-usb30-hdmi-dvi-d-sub-matx-motherboard.html

http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/with-psu/15680--antec-vsk4-500-usb30-mid-tower-case-with-500watt-psu.html

 

that is that mobo okay?

No - A88X is for OCs. With the cooler he should be able to drive a decent OC on the iGPU. A68 also needs a BIOS update first

 

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($154.00 @ CPL Online) 
Motherboard: MSI MSI A78M-E45 V2 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($85.00 @ CPL Online) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($55.00 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($68.00 @ CPL Online) 
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.00 @ Storm Computers) 
Power Supply: Antec 500W ATX Power Supply  ($59.00 @ Umart) 
Total: $460.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-29 22:52 AEST+1000

A88X is what you want for the board and youreally want a cooler in there.

[Herman Mcpootis]

11 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

A88X is what you want for the board and youreally want a cooler in there.

he did say he can't spend anymore than $450, and adding an a88x and heatsink would have broke his budget by too much. he can switch the old heatsink out easily if he felt like it. but at this price, i feel that he should really get some parts used instead of going for an all-new pc.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

he did say he can't spend anymore than $450, and adding an a88x and heatsink would have broke his budget by too much. he can switch the old heatsink out easily if he felt like it. but at this price, i feel that he should really get some parts used instead of going for an all-new pc.

The stock heatsink is crap and it will thermal throttle - a cooler is a MUST. He can wait 1-2 weeks for the A88X - it's worth it

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

The stock heatsink is crap and it will thermal throttle - a cooler is a MUST. He can wait 1-2 weeks for the A88X - it's worth it

as OP said, his father won't let him spend more then $450. going for an a88x wouldn't be too bad since its only $10 more but the heatsink will go too far over the budget. and he can easily swap the cooler out for another one in future, where he would have the $ to pay for it, easily.

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

as OP said, his father won't let him spend more then $450. going for an a88x wouldn't be too bad since its only $10 more but the heatsink will go too far over the budget. and he can easily swap the cooler out for another one in future, where he would have the $ to pay for it, easily.

Running the APU at extreme temps is likely to cause damage and thus the OP will end up with a broken 200$ APU for no reason.... Either buy a heatsink or don't buy anything.

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Running the APU at extreme temps is likely to cause damage and thus the OP will end up with a broken 200$ APU for no reason.... Either buy a heatsink or don't buy anything.

he can't afford the heatsink, don't you understand? he said he can't spend more than $450, because his father wouldn't let him spend more than that. AMD wouldn't add an insufficient stock cooler with their cpu, they would have to deal with more RMAs otherwise. while it sucks and sounds as loud as a jet engine, its still enough, even if its just enough, to cool the cpu. He can add the cooler next time, unless his father allows him to spend more than that. i don't want to have him go over budget on an aftermarket heatsink and get scolded by his parents because of it.

[Dackzy]

3 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

he can't afford the heatsink, don't you understand? he said he can't spend more than $450, because his father wouldn't let him spend more than that. AMD wouldn't add an insufficient stock cooler with their cpu, they would have to deal with more RMAs otherwise. while it sucks and sounds as loud as a jet engine, its still enough, even if its just enough, to cool the cpu. He can add the cooler next time, unless his father allows him to spend more than that. i don't want to have him go over budget on an aftermarket heatsink and get scolded by his parents because of it.

this is what he said: i finally saved up au$450(took me a while cuz my parents only give me au$15 a week). So he could just wait 3 weeks and he could make Dons build with no problem.

[SeanAngelo]

58 minutes ago, awesomeking68 said:

i finally saved up au$450(took me a while cuz my parents only give me au$15 a week) so that i can build me a pc link: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/fhMmPs

the only game i want to play is bf4 and watch dogs, i want to play in low settings in 720p but i just want to know how many frames i will get.

should i go with this build or just build a pc with an amd a10 7850k

can any one give me any advice

p.s.i dont want to save up any more cuz dad says it is the most i can spend 4 some reason

nope

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

this is what he said: i finally saved up au$450(took me a while cuz my parents only give me au$15 a week). So he could just wait 3 weeks and he could make Dons build with no problem.

and here's what he said at the end.

1 hour ago, awesomeking68 said:

 

p.s.i dont want to save up any more cuz dad says it is the most i can spend 4 some reason

 

[Dackzy]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

and here's what he said at the end.

 

Well his pc is not going to last that long if he doesn't get a better cpu cooler, so it will be liek burning your cash to buy it without a good cpu cooler.

[Herman Mcpootis]

13 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

Well his pc is not going to last that long if he doesn't get a better cpu cooler, so it will be liek burning your cash to buy it without a good cpu cooler.

then convince his father to let him spend more, because he isn't the one who can't spend more, its his father that doesn't want him to spend more. 

[Coaxialgamer]

Ok . This was difficult , but i would recommend this :

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/rJMmPs
Price breakdown by merchant: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/rJMmPs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($82.00 @ CPL Online) 
Motherboard: ASRock ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($85.00 @ CPL Online) 
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($39.00 @ PLE Computers) 
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.10 @ Newegg Australia) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 250 1GB Video Card  ($114.00 @ IJK) 
Case: Antec VSK3-500 MicroATX Mini Tower Case w/500W Power Supply  ($80.00 @ CPL Online) 
Total: $456.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-29 23:44 AEST+1000

 

Dual core is enough for bf4 and watch dogs , but honestly i would recommend an athlon x4 ( which wasn't avilable ).

 

However , if you can , you should seriously consider buying used .

[Coaxialgamer]

1 hour ago, don_svetlio said:

You won't get anywhere with this. The CPU is garbage, the GPU is too weak to run anything, even at 480p. An A10 7890K would be the best option

7890k doesn't really provide a huge performance boost over a 7860k , and isn't worth the 60 $ premium IMO

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Coaxialgamer said:

7890k doesn't really provide a huge performance boost over a 7860k , and isn't worth the 60 $ premium IMO

7890K comes with the wraith cooler - that's essentially a free 212 EVO and it's also higher binned

[Coaxialgamer]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

7890K comes with the wraith cooler - that's essentially a free 212 EVO and it's also higher binned

true , but at this price point i don't think he can afford it , and the 7860k has a 65W TDP , which should help the old stock cooler.