Windows 10 Won't Start Properly

[JakeMnz]

After every time I install Win10 to my SSD I'll be able to do the first time set up, get to my desktop, and then install my WiFi drivers. If I try to update Windows or my display drivers (only two things I've been trying to install to start with) then I'm met with one of two issues. Either my computer will restart during the updates and my monitor will go black and can't get back into Windows, or I'll finish the updates, restart my computer and then end up with the same issue.

 

I'm dealing with either a constant black screen or sometimes my monitor will turn on like it's gotten a signal, then turn off because no signal could be found. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Step by step I'm:

-Putting Windows Install Media on a flashdrive

-Booting from the flashdrive (I've tried UEFI and USB, both result with the same issues)

-Deleting the old partitions and allocating space for Win10

-Installing Win10

After I'm done, my PC restarts and I do the first time set up stuff. Then once I'm in I take out the flashdrive and then I restart my PC to make sure it can boot into Windows. 9/10 it will, then I'll go to update and restart and I'll get the black screen. Anyone know what I'm missing?

[The_Denks]

2 minutes ago, JakeMnz said:

After every time I install Win10 to my SSD I'll be able to do the first time set up, get to my desktop, and then install my WiFi drivers. If I try to update Windows or my display drivers (only two things I've been trying to install to start with) then I'm met with one of two issues. Either my computer will restart during the updates and my monitor will go black and can't get back into Windows, or I'll finish the updates, restart my computer and then end up with the same issue.

 

I'm dealing with either a constant black screen or sometimes my monitor will turn on like it's gotten a signal, then turn off because no signal could be found. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Step by step I'm:

-Putting Windows Install Media on a flashdrive

-Booting from the flashdrive (I've tried UEFI and USB, both result with the same issues)

-Deleting the old partitions and allocating space for Win10

-Installing Win10

After I'm done, my PC restarts and I do the first time set up stuff. Then once I'm in I take out the flashdrive and then I restart my PC to make sure it can boot into Windows. 9/10 it will, then I'll go to update and restart and I'll get the black screen. Anyone know what I'm missing?

Issues with drivers. I have done over 50 installs of W10 and the only problem I had was once the output signal was in negative color on first boot up, but that was fixed in 1 minute.

[HPWebcamAble]

What are the system specs that you're trying to install windows on?

[JakeMnz]

13 minutes ago, UberGamerKing said:

Issues with drivers. I have done over 50 installs of W10 and the only problem I had was once the output signal was in negative color on first boot up, but that was fixed in 1 minute.

So what should I do?

 

12 minutes ago, HPWebcamAble said:

What are the system specs that you're trying to install windows on?

CPU: FX-8350

GPU: r9 290 4GB

RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600

Mobo: AsRock 990FX Killer

PSU: Corsair CX850M

SSD: Sandisk 100GB

Storage HDD: WD Black 1TB (Unplugged when installing Windows)

Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX

 

[HPWebcamAble]

1 minute ago, JakeMnz said:

CPU: FX-8350

GPU: r9 290 4GB

RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600

Mobo: AsRock 990FX Killer

PSU: Corsair CX850M

SSD: Sandisk 100GB

Storage HDD: WD Black 1TB (Unplugged when installing Windows)

Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX

Can you install windows with your GPU unplugged? Can't remember if the FX 8350 has an iGPU...

 

3 minutes ago, JakeMnz said:

So what should I do?

His response was exceptionally unhelpful...

[JakeMnz]

4 minutes ago, HPWebcamAble said:

Can you install windows with your GPU unplugged? Can't remember if the FX 8350 has an iGPU...

Nope. I can boot into safe mode, if that means anything.

[HPWebcamAble]

Just now, JakeMnz said:

Nope. I can boot into safe mode, if that means anything.

The idea is that windows installs the driver for your iGPU, then you can use that to install your GPU driver.

 

But the FX series does NOT have an iGPU, so much for that idea

[JakeMnz]

2 minutes ago, HPWebcamAble said:

The idea is that windows installs the driver for your iGPU, then you can use that to install your GPU driver.

 

But the FX series does NOT have an iGPU, so much for that idea

I'm just really confused how I could be having driver issues over and over again even after I delete everything and start from scratch. It makes me think that maybe it's the SSD and it's not reading or writing properly.

[HPWebcamAble]

2 minutes ago, JakeMnz said:

I'm just really confused how I could be having driver issues over and over again even after I delete everything and start from scratch. It makes me think that maybe it's the SSD and it's not reading or writing properly.

It makes think that the driver isn't working, not any of the hardware's fault.

 

Maybe someone else has a suggustion @Enderman

[Omon_Ra]

7 minutes ago, JakeMnz said:

I'm just really confused how I could be having driver issues over and over again even after I delete everything and start from scratch. It makes me think that maybe it's the SSD and it's not reading or writing properly.

It could be the driver itself. If your mobo manufacturer support page has an older driver, try one of those. Make sure you're on the latest version BIOS for your motherboard and if there are any chipset drivers, make sure you install those.

[GoodBytes]

If you go in Safe mode with networking, you should be able to install your graphics card GPU there.

 

To go into safe mode, restart your computer while the system in loading Windows... do this 3 times. On the third boot, it should get you to a menu screen.

[JakeMnz]

7 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

If you go in Safe mode with networking, you should be able to install your graphics card GPU there.

 

To go into safe mode, restart your computer while the system in loading Windows... do this 3 times. On the third boot, it should get you to a menu screen.

I've already tried. I get denied permission when I try to install them no matter what. I looked more into that specifically and found that you're really not supposed to install drivers in safe mode, not sure how true that is but it isn't working regardless.

 

edit: Just tried to get into safe mode to try again anyways and now I can't even get into that.

[GoodBytes]

5 minutes ago, JakeMnz said:

I've already tried. I get denied permission when I try to install them no matter what. I looked more into that specifically and found that you're really not supposed to install drivers in safe mode, not sure how true that is but it isn't working regardless.

:sigh: why AMD you are being a pain as always with new version of Windows...

 

Ok tell me this, when you run the AMD drivers setup, does it extract the drivers somewhere in you system, like in a folder in the C:\ drive.

For example, for Nvidia, the drivers are extracted in C:\Nvidia\<driver version>. If so, or if you find out where the drivers are, in Safe Mode, look for some ".inf' file which you can then, if found, right-click and select Install. That will install the drivers. If not, open Device Manager, go to your graphics card, and select "Update Drivers", and follow the wizard and pick the location of the extracted drivers.

 

If all fails, from Safe mode with networking, get the driver hider utility (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930) And then, go to device manager, uninstall your graphics card drivers from there, check the box to delete drivers as well, run the utility that you just downloaded, see if it find the graphics card, and check the box to hide the update. If the utility doesn't find anything, because now Windows 10 is being a pain, unplug the Internet completely your system, so that Windows Update can't work, boot to Windows 10 normal, and from there install the Radeon drivers. Once installed, restart your computer, make sure everything works, if it does, quickly connect on the internet, run the Windows utility linked here, and see if the Radeon drivers now shows up to hide it, and do so. If it still doesn't find it, and Windows Update doesn't try and install its version of the drivers, then you are good.

 

 

[JakeMnz]

1 minute ago, GoodBytes said:

:sigh: why AMD you are being a pain as always with new version of Windows...

 

Ok tell me this, when you run the AMD drivers setup, does it extract the drivers somewhere in you system, like in a folder in the C:\ drive.

For example, for Nvidia, the drivers are extracted in C:\Nvidia\<driver version>. If so, or if you find out where the drivers are, in Safe Mode, look for some ".inf' file which you can then, if found, right-click and select Install. That will install the drivers. If not, open Device Manager, go to your graphics card, and select "Update Drivers", and follow the wizard and pick the location of the extracted drivers.

 

If all fails, from Safe mode with networking, get the driver hider utility (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930) And then, go to device manager, uninstall your graphics card drivers from there, check the box to delete drivers as well, run the utility that you just downloaded, see if it find the graphics card, and check the box to hide the update. If the utility doesn't find anything, because now Windows 10 is being a pain, unplug the Internet completely your system, so that Windows Update can't work, boot to Windows 10 normal, and from there install the Radeon drivers. Once installed, restart your computer, make sure everything works, if it does, quickly connect on the internet, run the Windows utility linked here, and see if the Radeon drivers now shows up to hide it, and do so. If it still doesn't find it, and Windows Update doesn't try and install its version of the drivers, then you are good.

 

 

All of this relies on me getting in to safe mode, which I can no longer do for some reason. I've had AMD for 3 years now and trust me I'm switching over the second I get the money.

[GoodBytes]

1 hour ago, JakeMnz said:

All of this relies on me getting in to safe mode, which I can no longer do for some reason. I've had AMD for 3 years now and trust me I'm switching over the second I get the money.

Well, Nvidia also has its share of issues also... but it is generally related to SLI... usually. Anyway,

 

What do you mean you can no longer do? Do you have the menu screen and it just get stuck going in Safe Mode? Or the menu isn't showing up?

[JakeMnz]

14 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Well, Nvidia also has its share of issues also... but it is generally related to SLI... usually. Anyway,

 

What do you mean you can no longer do? Do you have the menu screen and it just get stuck going in Safe Mode? Or the menu isn't showing up?

I can get to the menu and select boot into safe mode, but when it actually tries to boot into safe mode it just restarts a few times and brings me back to the menu.

[JakeMnz]

I reinstalled Win10 again and I'm pretty much having the same problem. Connected to the internet, went to do Windows updates, screen went black while the updates were still downloading.

[GoodBytes]

3 minutes ago, JakeMnz said:

I reinstalled Win10 again and I'm pretty much having the same problem. Connected to the internet, went to do Windows updates, screen went black while the updates were still downloading.

I normally don't recommend this, but if you already re-install Windows 10, and a in a state of re-install once again, basically.

Can you try and getting into the Insider Preview Fast ring latest build, and see if your problem is solved. Install your graphics card drivers before connecting online.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewadvanced

Use Rufus to prepare a USB flash drive if you want to go with USB flash drive install.