Notebook for College

[nilotachi]

 

Hello guys, im from brazil and im going to spain, so actually im thinking on change my notebook (Dell xps 15 l502x).

I was in doubt if for me is better a desktop pc or a notebook, but since i travell a lot im going for the notebook, i saw some but im not sure, so any one can tell me his experience  with various  brands will be great.
 

These are what im seeing:

Dell Inspiron 15 7559 ( i5-6300HQ 2.3 GHz/ Gtx 960M 4gb/ 8gb ram/ 1 tb 5200rpm)

Msi PE60 6QD-200XES ( i5-6300HQ 2.3 Ghz/ Gtx 950M 2gb/ 8gb ddr4/ 1tb 7200rpm)

MSI GP62 6QE-266XES ( i7-6700HQ  2.6Ghz/ Gtx 950M 2gb/8gb ddr4 SO-DIMM/ 1tb 7200rpm)
Asus GL552VW-DM141 ( i7-6700HQ 2.6 Ghz/ Gtx 960M 2gb/ 8gb ddr4/ 1 tb 7200rpm)

My budget is $900

Im concerned a lot about Asus durability i had one and it was a total crap worth less, Dell i had 3 2 inspiron series and 1 xps i think they are amazing, msi i dont know i never used and never saw.

Thanks

 

[don_svetlio]

Lenovo Y700
Asus G552VW (grey one - the black lid is crappy as fuck and can easily break)
Dell 7559 (this is a VERY budget-oriented gaming laptop - lot of cut corners)
 

[nilotachi]

3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Lenovo Y700
Asus G552VW (grey one - the black lid is crappy as fuck and can easily break)
Dell 7559 (this is a VERY budget-oriented gaming laptop - lot of cut corners)
 

Lenovo... i had bad experiences, and this one have some bad coments about his fragility.
what do u mean with VERY budget-oriented gaming laptop - lot of cut corners) hehe my english is not really good  sry

[don_svetlio]

13 minutes ago, nilotachi said:

Lenovo... i had bad experiences, and this one have some bad coments about his fragility.
what do u mean with VERY budget-oriented gaming laptop - lot of cut corners) hehe my english is not really good  sry

The Y700 is actually probably the best option in this price range - if you are worried about addware, that has been fixed over 2 years ago. As for fragility - it's an enitrely metal chassis whereas the rest are all plastic

[don_svetlio]

13 minutes ago, nilotachi said:

what do u mean with VERY budget-oriented gaming laptop - lot of cut corners) hehe my english is not really good  sry

The Dell has a crappy keyboard, mediocre screen, poor audio, crappy BIOS (hence the needed update), weak screen (the display flexes) - it's cheap for a reason

[nilotachi]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

The Dell has a crappy keyboard, mediocre screen, poor audio, crappy BIOS (hence the needed update), weak screen (the display flexes) - it's cheap for a reason

Yea, i wasnt going for the asus because i only found the plastic version on Europe under 900
then i saw the msi and i thought that is harder than asus, i have a asus that is a crap, the same with samsung i do not recomend it, my moms notebook came with a processor that supports 32bit with w8.1 64bit installed  
If i find the lenovo i think i may go for it.
Thanks a lot!

 

[don_svetlio]

Just now, nilotachi said:

Yea, i wasnt going for the asus because i only found the plastic version on Europe under 900
then i saw the msi and i thought that is harder than asus, i have a asus that is a crap, the same with samsung i do not recomend it, my moms notebook came with a processor that supports 32bit with w8.1 64bit installed  
If i find the lenovo i think i may go for it.
Thanks a lot!

 

@Dackzy and I were talking and apparently MSI laptops are VERY prone to premature failure of random parts - you can ask him.

[Dackzy]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

@Dackzy and I were talking and apparently MSI laptops are VERY prone to premature failure of random parts - you can ask him.

Yeah they are, but it makes business great for me, since I know a lot of people who buy MSI laptops, because they are priced well.  

[nilotachi]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

@Dackzy and I were talking and apparently MSI laptops are VERY prone to premature failure of random parts - you can ask him.

haha thats why i dont like notebooks, my actual Xps 15 l502x has a problem with his 540M, i have to underclock the grafics to 440-800 mhz so i can play 3D games like Cs go, lol, etc... 

If i didnt found that solution the game  will still Freezing and have to Shut down by the power button, so if anyone is going to buy a notebook with 540M (that is old) you will have to do that    its really anoying, thats why im searching so much about errors

[don_svetlio]

Just now, nilotachi said:

haha thats why i dont like notebooks, my actual Xps 15 l502x has a problem with his 540M, i have to underclock the grafics to 440-800 mhz so i can play 3D games like Cs go, lol, etc... 

If i didnt found that solution the game  will still Freezing and have to Shut down by the power button, so if anyone is going to buy a notebook with 540M (that is old) you will have to do that    its really anoying, thats why im searching so much about errors

Hence why good cooling is important and the Y700 with it's massive copper heatsink is a good one

[Dackzy]

3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Hence why good cooling is important and the Y700 with it's massive copper heatsink is a good one

Yeah that heatsink is pretty big for a laptop.

 

4 minutes ago, nilotachi said:

haha thats why i dont like notebooks, my actual Xps 15 l502x has a problem with his 540M, i have to underclock the grafics to 440-800 mhz so i can play 3D games like Cs go, lol, etc... 

If i didnt found that solution the game  will still Freezing and have to Shut down by the power button, so if anyone is going to buy a notebook with 540M (that is old) you will have to do that    its really anoying, thats why im searching so much about errors

I still use a T420s (i7 and quadro) because it is a solid laptop and it meets my requerments when it comes to power, but only just. I think that I will upgrade to the T460s soon.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Dackzy said:

Yeah that heatsink is pretty big for a laptop.

 

I still use a T420s (i7 and quadro) because it is a solid laptop and it meets my requerments when it comes to power, but only just. I think that I will upgrade to the T460s soon.

Even though many people dislike how the Y-series turn Turbo off when you are gaming, I personally find a 2.6GHz quad-ocre i7 is more than enough for a 960M/860M and it results in much lower temps

[nilotachi]

3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Even though many people dislike how the Y-series turn Turbo off when you are gaming, I personally find a 2.6GHz quad-ocre i7 is more than enough for a 960M/860M and it results in much lower temps

If it makes the notebook cooler and if gaming doesnt goes more than 5fps down is great! 
I really dont like overclocking notebooks  

[Dackzy]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

Even though many people dislike how the Y-series turn Turbo off when you are gaming, I personally find a 2.6GHz quad-ocre i7 is more than enough for a 960M/860M and it results in much lower temps

It's plenty fine for a 960m and lower temps are just better, because then I don't have to change thermal paste and parts out that often because they where to hot over longer usage.

I really hate changing the thermal paste since I have to remove so many things in a lot of laptops just to do that.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, nilotachi said:

If it makes the notebook cooler and if gaming doesnt goes more than 5fps down is great! 
I really dont like overclocking notebooks  

There's no difference - GPU usage is still at 100% but the whole thing runs cooler

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Dackzy said:

It's plenty fine for a 960m and lower temps are just better, because then I don't have to change thermal paste and parts out that often because they where to hot over longer usage.

I really hate changing the thermal paste since I have to remove so many things in a lot of laptops just to do that.

Y510P was one hell of a furnace tho

[nilotachi]

2 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

It's plenty fine for a 960m and lower temps are just better, because then I don't have to change thermal paste and parts out that often because they where to hot over longer usage.

I really hate changing the thermal paste since I have to remove so many things in a lot of laptops just to do that.

Then is the Y700  easy to remove the back plastic to upgrade it? 

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, nilotachi said:

Then is the Y700  easy to remove the back plastic to upgrade it? 

Back metal* - it's fairly straight forward - just watch a video tutorial

[Dackzy]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

Y510P was one hell of a furnace tho

Please dude I just fixed one yesterday and it was not fun. That thing runs super hot, but I know a guy that makes custom heat sinks things so I asked to custimor if he was willing to pay 100€ to get a better heatsink in it on top of the 80€ he was paying me and he said yes, so I asked my friend to make a heatsink that would fit inside the Y510p and put some special thermalpast on it and now it runs cooler.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, Dackzy said:

Please dude I just fixed one yesterday and it was not fun. That thing runs super hot, but I know a guy that makes custom heat sinks things so I asked to custimor if he was willing to pay 100€ to get a better heatsink in it on top of the 80€ he was paying me and he said yes, so I asked my friend to make a heatsink that would fit inside the Y510p and put some special thermalpast on it and now it runs cooler.

There is a MUCH easier fix - use some springs to increase the mounting pressure and it runs 10*C cooler - the pressure of the default screws is not enough

[Dackzy]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

There is a MUCH easier fix - use some springs to increase the mounting pressure and it runs 10*C cooler - the pressure of the default screws is not enough

Well I also did that, but the extra big heatsink and thermalpast got it lower than that.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Dackzy said:

Well I also did that, but the extra big heatsink and thermalpast got it lower than that.

What temps is it running at now? (also the ultrabay? xd)

[nilotachi]

3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Y510P was one hell of a furnace tho

im only founding the lenovo  over 1000 euros  

 

[don_svetlio]

Just now, nilotachi said:

im only founding the lenovo  over 1000 euros  

 

Y700? What country? Check Lenovo's site - it's usually cheap there

[nilotachi]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

Y700? What country? Check Lenovo's site - it's usually cheap there

Im going to spain, in lenovo site i found it by 949 euros with I5 6300