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Just now, 3DGamerOnSteam said:

It's never a bad idea to have a decent GPU. Then you can have better render distance and AA, if you're into that kinda thing. Plus having a dedicated GPU lets him use the IGPU for quicksync. 

definitely good to have a decent one, but something like a 960 or even a 750 ti would be excellent for this

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1 minute ago, Josephdalepi said:

definitely good to have a decent one, but something like a 960 or even a 750 ti would be excellent for this

It depends on the mods.  I find it funny no one asked what mod (modpack) OP is planning to use.  Some mods are GPU intensive involving new particle and lighting effects. 

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Just now, stconquest said:

It depends on the mods.  I find it funny no one asked what mod (modpack) OP is planning to use.  Some mods are GPU intensive involving new particle and lighting effects. 

dont think theres many mods that a 960 couldnt power through easily

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1 minute ago, stconquest said:

It depends on the mods.  I find it funny no one asked what mod (modpack) OP is planning to use.  Some mods are GPU intensive involving new particle and lighting effects. 

Unless he plans on using texture mods that use 64x64 pixel or higher, he should be fine. And I don't think he is.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, AlexTheRose said:

He needs a bigger budget, but no, “just about anything” will not do if he ever intends to use shaders.

 

I don’t know what boring fantasy everyone seems to think Minecraft is, but a 980 Ti barely pushes 60 FPS at 4K with shaders on Windows. Scale that down to 1080p and you’ll probably want a 950 at the very least, if not a 960 or a 970.

 

OP could move over to Linux and get better performance out of the resident OpenJDK, but I don’t know whether he cares to do that. Not very many anti-Windows gamers put their money where their mouth is when it comes to stuff like that, so I’d be happily surprised.

He should stick with windows for video editing. And I don't think he plans on using heavy graphics mods considering his budget. An i5 6500 using the igpu should be fine for starting out.

 

And Minecraft can be cpu intesive. I can max out my i5 with it running at 4.5 GHz in vanilla minecraft without even using tnt or red stone.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, AlexTheRose said:

He needs a bigger budget, but no, “just about anything” will not do if he ever intends to use shaders.

 

I don’t know what boring fantasy everyone seems to think Minecraft is, but a 980 Ti barely pushes 60 FPS at 4K with shaders on Windows. Scale that down to 1080p and you’ll probably want a 950 at the very least, if not a 960 or a 970.

 

OP could move over to Linux and get better performance out of the resident OpenJDK, but I don’t know whether he cares to do that. Not very many anti-Windows gamers put their money where their mouth is when it comes to stuff like that, so I’d be happily surprised.

 

I’m frankly sick and tired of people saying Minecraft requires “serious CPU power.” It doesn’t. Not with any combination of mods you can think of would your standard gaming Core i5 falter. And technically it’d be just as fine with a Core i3 because Minecraft’s tick system operates on a single thread.

I was thinking he would use the CPU to record.  The iGPU would be busy rendering the game.  This until he saved enough for a decent dGPU.

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11 minutes ago, AlexTheRose said:

He needs a bigger budget, but no, “just about anything” will not do if he ever intends to use shaders.

 

I don’t know what boring fantasy everyone seems to think Minecraft is, but a 980 Ti barely pushes 60 FPS at 4K with shaders on Windows. Scale that down to 1080p and you’ll probably want a 950 at the very least, if not a 960 or a 970.

 

OP could move over to Linux and get better performance out of the resident OpenJDK, but I don’t know whether he cares to do that. Not very many anti-Windows gamers put their money where their mouth is when it comes to stuff like that, so I’d be happily surprised.

 

I’m frankly sick and tired of people saying Minecraft requires “serious CPU power.” It doesn’t. Not with any combination of mods you can think of would your standard gaming Core i5 falter. And technically it’d be just as fine with a Core i3 because Minecraft’s tick system operates on a single thread.

 

This. From playing minecraft myself with shaders. i5 did sit at 10 - 30% from best to worst (cough itemframes, minecrafters will understand..)

With optifine minecraft uses 4 cores while the tick count indeed sits on the first core. 

 

With shaders what power this needs? R9 390's wasn't enough to archive stable +60fps with x256 texturepack (yes I play since alpha, it's texturepack not resourcepack, f off hippster) 

 

Sideloaded 10 mods. Included xray, minimap, player- chest esp and flanes mod.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, AlexTheRose said:

Ah, okay. Then a Core i5 would be optimal I guess since he’s on such a tight budget.

 

I guess I’m lucky saving on rendering with my setup – I always use the vanilla set with shaders… never cared for the graininess of larger texture packs, and as they got big enough to smooth out they just didn’t feel right.

 

I don’t think MC supports CrossfireX or SLI, either. Shame.

But it's beautifull

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And nope. Opengl supports sli however java is missing needed libs. Crossfire suppose it's the same here. Can't remember if anyone in history ever got it working.

 

Edit: And this is what happens putting shadermod on i3 igpu. No way that will work.

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39 minutes ago, AlexTheRose said:

He needs a bigger budget, but no, “just about anything” will not do if he ever intends to use shaders.

 

I don’t know what boring fantasy everyone seems to think Minecraft is, but a 980 Ti barely pushes 60 FPS at 4K with shaders on Windows. Scale that down to 1080p and you’ll probably want a 950 at the very least, if not a 960 or a 970.

 

OP could move over to Linux and get better performance out of the resident OpenJDK, but I don’t know whether he cares to do that. Not very many anti-Windows gamers put their money where their mouth is when it comes to stuff like that, so I’d be happily surprised.

 

I’m frankly sick and tired of people saying Minecraft requires “serious CPU power.” It doesn’t. Not with any combination of mods you can think of would your standard gaming Core i5 falter. And technically it’d be just as fine with a Core i3 because Minecraft’s tick system operates on a single thread.

dude

look through later posts

we all agreed a 960 would be perfect

also, i dont play minecraft for a reason

the optimization makes me cringe

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so.. this is what i came up with:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($111.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DVS/D3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($49.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($26.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Enermax ECA3212-BL ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $386.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-25 20:16 EDT-0400

 

- skylake i3: you WANT single core performance for modded minecraft. no arguing there. i've seen someone stream with an i3, so it *should* at least do mediocre quality wise when recording at a decent res.

- cheapest mobo, theres nothing more to it

- cheapest 8GB ram, i actually figured out these are the type of sticks acer uses for their prebuilts

- 1TB of spinning rust, does the job.

- 750Ti will either push some basic shaders (dont expect too much of it) or do the nvenc thing just fine. you also *want* some kind of dedicated gpu for minecraft because somehow it *really* doesnt like intel graphics. (got a lot better tho)

- cheapest case

- decent power supply, its a quality brand but literally the cheapest thing the quality brand has to offer :P

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1 minute ago, manikyath said:

so.. this is what i came up with:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($111.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DVS/D3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($49.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($26.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Enermax ECA3212-BL ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $386.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-25 20:16 EDT-0400

 

- skylake i3: you WANT single core performance for modded minecraft. no arguing there. i've seen someone stream with an i3, so it *should* at least do mediocre quality wise when recording at a decent res.

- cheapest mobo, theres nothing more to it

- cheapest 8GB ram, i actually figured out these are the type of sticks acer uses for their prebuilts

- 1TB of spinning rust, does the job.

- 750Ti will either push some basic shaders (dont expect too much of it) or do the nvenc thing just fine. you also *want* some kind of dedicated gpu for minecraft because somehow it *really* doesnt like intel graphics. (got a lot better tho)

- cheapest case

- decent power supply, its a quality brand but literally the cheapest thing the quality brand has to offer :P

I'd say ditch the GPU, get the i5-6500, and buy a better gpu later. As for minecraft not liking intel integrated graphics.. What? The IGPU in my laptop which has a 5200u runs minecraft better than a 940m

 

 

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Just now, 3DGamerOnSteam said:

I'd say ditch the GPU, get the i5-6500, and buy a better gpu later.

i wouldnt dare to say tbh, theres the chance minecraft wont like the igpu, because y'know LWJGL is a disaster xD

 

the thing to consider with "a better gpu later" is if you're planning on that you'll also end up needing a better power supply than that 350 watt empty box from seasonic.

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3 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i wouldnt dare to say tbh, theres the chance minecraft wont like the igpu, because y'know LWJGL is a disaster xD

 

the thing to consider with "a better gpu later" is if you're planning on that you'll also end up needing a better power supply than that 350 watt empty box from seasonic.

The IGPU in my laptop which has a 5200u runs minecraft better than a 940m. So in my mind, theres a good chance minecraft won't like the 750. He can get a 450 watt then.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Josephdalepi said:

also, i dont play minecraft for a reason

the optimization makes me cringe

Then why post when you have no idea what that games needs. Cringe x2

 

And no mc doesn't like the igpu. It's much better then it was 2 years ago but anything dedicated helps a lot.

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1 minute ago, SparkyRain said:

Then why post when you have no idea what that games needs. Cringe x2

 

And no mc doesn't like the igpu. It's much better then it was 2 years ago but anything dedicated helps a lot.

Really? My i5 5200u iGPU runs minecraft WAY better than the 940m can in it.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, 3DGamerOnSteam said:

The IGPU in my laptop which has a 5200u runs minecraft better than a 940m. He can get a 450 watt then.

seemingly you'd also lose 8% on the single core, but that offcourse comes with a massive boost in encoding performance.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6500-vs-Intel-Core-i3-6100/3513vs3511

 

that'd end up with something like this, although i still dont like the igpu idea, since you'd also lose the ability of going nvenc.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DVS/D3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($49.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($26.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Enermax ECA3212-BL ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($58.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $395.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-25 20:29 EDT-0400

EDIT: and 940m is a toaster :P

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1 minute ago, 3DGamerOnSteam said:

Really? My i5 5200u iGPU runs minecraft WAY better than the 940m can in it.

Laptop gpu why compare that pos to a desktop dedicaded gpu? And yeah really. i5 igpu caps out at 700fps with no vsync and plain old 650ti caps out at 1400fps with no vysnc on.

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5 minutes ago, SparkyRain said:

Laptop gpu why compare that pos to a desktop dedicaded gpu? And yeah really. i5 igpu caps out at 700fps with no vsync and plain old 650ti caps out at 1400fps with no vysnc on.

Because its the same tech. The 940 runs games like CSGO just fine, but it hates OpenGL. Intel IGPU's seem to run OpenGL programs just fine

 

And he can always get a GPU later, and he'll have not wasted any money. If he gets an i3, and it bottlenecks, then he has to go and spend more money than he would of had to other wise to get a better cpu.

 

 

 

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