soundcard

[BukaSlyat]

Hey there!

 

What is the best soundcard to be bought? (it is to counter-measure the coil whine and needs to be cheap, europe only)

 

Best regards

[Oshino Shinobu]

To counter the coil whine? A sound card wouldn't help with that. If the motherboard you have is fairly recent, the onboard is just as good as a soundcard, especially a cheap one. 

[zMeul]

2 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

To counter the coil whine? A sound card wouldn't help with that.

yes it would

a common source of noise on on-board audio is from the video card as the I/O traces pass just bellow it

a sound card would definitely be useful

[BukaSlyat]

1 minute ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

To counter the coil whine? A sound card wouldn't help with that. If the motherboard you have is fairly recent, the onboard is just as good as a soundcard, especially a cheap one. 

board is a asus m5a97 evo r 2.0, my sister said that she hears a lot of buzz and weird noises. I will take a sweex soundcard that i have in here in the office and try it out.

[Clonzoo]

I'll just leave this link here so you guys actually know whats going on.

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/585102-coil-whine/

[Oshino Shinobu]

3 minutes ago, zMeul said:

yes it would

a common source of noise on on-board audio is from the video card as the I/O traces pass just bellow it

a sound card would definitely be useful

Coil whine is audible without any speakers or headphones.

 

If we're talking about interference and noise, then yeah, a soundcard may help with that, but internal solutions are still easily susceptible to noise and inference. AFAIK, that shouldn't be affected by coilwhine, though. If there's coil whine, it will still be there and audible, regardless of the audio solution. 

 

[BukaSlyat]

Just now, Oshino Shinobu said:

Coil whine is audible without any speakers or headphones.

 

If we're talking about interference and noise, then yeah, a soundcard may help with that, but internal solutions are still easily susceptible to noise and inference. 

 

she can hear the noise in the headsets, we dont have any speaker to try it out.

[zMeul]

4 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

Coil whine is audible without any speakers or headphones.

 

If we're talking about interference and noise, then yeah, a soundcard may help with that, but internal solutions are still easily susceptible to noise and inference. 

coils (and not only) produce interference, with them whining or not

ad-in sound cards have components facing the other side from the video card - thus having a lot of substrates to shield the components

[Oshino Shinobu]

2 minutes ago, Clonzoo said:

I'll just leave this link here so you guys actually know whats going on.

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/585102-coil-whine/

 

Just now, BukaSlyat said:

she can hear the noise in the headsets, we dont have any speaker to try it out.

Then it's not coil whine (most likely). 

It's most likely just interference. It's pretty common. Are you using the rear audio jacks or the front? Use the rear if you're not already. A soundcard may help, but it is not certain to, as it can still be effected by other components inside the case. A USB headset/headphones should fix the issue and can be fairly cheap. 

[Clonzoo]

5 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

 

Then it's not coil whine (most likely). 

It's most likely just interference. It's pretty common. Are you using the rear audio jacks or the front? Use the rear if you're not already. A soundcard may help, but it is not certain to, as it can still be effected by other components inside the case. A USB headset/headphones should fix the issue and can be fairly cheap. 

We basically went over all of this in the other topic. He needs a cheap sound card or a solution that will help him overcome interference on the onboard audio solution. He have already tried back and front jacks.

[BukaSlyat]

Just now, Oshino Shinobu said:

 

Then it's not coil whine (most likely). 

It's most likely just interference. It's pretty common. Are you using the rear audio jacks or the front? Use the rear if you're not already. A soundcard may help, but it is not certain to, as it can still be effected by other components inside the case. A USB headset/headphones should fix the issue and can be fairly cheap. 

As @Clonzoo posted my original thread, I've tried both ways and rearrange the cable in the motherboard and nothing works. The last system that she had, it had the same PSU (corsair vs 550 and the r9 380) and never had a single problem.

[Oshino Shinobu]

1 minute ago, BukaSlyat said:

As @Clonzoo posted my original thread, I've tried both ways and rearrange the cable in the motherboard and nothing works. The last system that she had, it had the same PSU (corsair vs 550 and the r9 380) and never had a single problem.

What sort of money are you looking to spend? I'm not too knowledgeable on individual soundcards, but from what I know Creative tends to be a reliable brand. If it's just to avoid interference, you'll likely be okay going for one of their base models without any gimmicky features. 

You could also go for something like this http://www.uk.insight.com/en-gb/productinfo/media-converters-repeaters-and-transceivers/0002488228-00000001?utm_source=Google+Shopping&utm_medium=Feed&utm_campaign=Feed&src=000093&&cm_mmc=Google+Shopping-_-Feed-_-Feed-_-Feed&gclid=CjwKEAjw9OG4BRDJzY3jrMng4iQSJABddor1xPmSkcdUIo4j7cv6NEPgfwUhR893Zg79B18dFsbvpxoCsRXw_wcB

[HrutkayMods]

well there isn't a guarantee a sound card will work, but it might... they're right though a USB headset or adapter should work

[DioOmicida]

If you're having issues with interference why not DAC?
Don't quote me though, I was just asking about Sound Cards the other day.

[BukaSlyat]

Just now, Oshino Shinobu said:

What sort of money are you looking to spend? I'm not too knowledgeable on individual soundcards, but from what I know Creative tends to be a reliable brand. If it's just to avoid interference, you'll likely be okay going for one of their base models without any gimmicky features. 

You could also go for something like this http://www.uk.insight.com/en-gb/productinfo/media-converters-repeaters-and-transceivers/0002488228-00000001?utm_source=Google+Shopping&utm_medium=Feed&utm_campaign=Feed&src=000093&&cm_mmc=Google+Shopping-_-Feed-_-Feed-_-Feed&gclid=CjwKEAjw9OG4BRDJzY3jrMng4iQSJABddor1xPmSkcdUIo4j7cv6NEPgfwUhR893Zg79B18dFsbvpxoCsRXw_wcB

she wants something good to play some csgo and cods (dunno what games she plays more but i think those should get you what can i spend) Probably less then 30 € (europe)

[BukaSlyat]

Just now, DioOmicida said:

If you're having issues with interference why not DAC?
Don't quote me though, I was just asking about Sound Cards the other day.

DAC or a usb sound card those are the 2 things i would buy if they are affordable then less 30€

[zMeul]

7 minutes ago, DioOmicida said:

If you're having issues with interference why not DAC?
Don't quote me though, I was just asking about Sound Cards the other day.

if the source of the interference is not the video card but the PSU or some other component that introduces noise in the power lines, his only solution would be a TOS Link to completely electrically separate the source and the DAC

[BukaSlyat]

13 minutes ago, zMeul said:

if the source of the interference is not the video card but the PSU or some other component that introduces noise in the power lines, his only solution would be a TOS Link to completely electrically separate the source and the DAC

so a usb soundcard is only the solution?

[zMeul]

7 minutes ago, BukaSlyat said:

so a usb soundcard is only the solution?

1st test with a sound card and see if that works

 

there are sound cards that offer TOS Link output

a simple USB sound card is not the solution if the source of the interference is the power delivery

 

TOS Link is a optical connection

opto coupling is the most used solution for interference barriers 

[BukaSlyat]

Just now, zMeul said:

1st test with a sound card and see if that works

 

there are sound cards that offer TOS Link output

a simple USB sound card is not the solution if the source of the interference is the power delivery

i grabbed one sweex usb sound card from the office, so i will teste it when i get home. If that cancels the noise, it should be fine to buy a usb one? its only the motherboard that is affected ?

[zMeul]

1 minute ago, BukaSlyat said:

its only the motherboard that is affected ?

as I said, you need to test

but, if the USB sound card does it, the source was most likely the video card

[BukaSlyat]

Just now, zMeul said:

as I said, you need to test

but, if the USB sound card does it, the source was most likely the video card

in the latest system that she had, she didnt have this issue at all (e7500, 4g, asus p5kpl am epu?, same gpu and power supply)

[zMeul]

Just now, BukaSlyat said:

in the latest system that she had, she didnt have this issue at all (e7500, 4g, asus p5kpl am epu?, same gpu and power supply)

it could be that the sound chip is just trash

 

there are other factors to consider too, but that's out of your control

[BukaSlyat]

14 minutes ago, zMeul said:

it could be that the sound chip is just trash

 

there are other factors to consider too, but that's out of your control

got home and none of headsets plugged into this sweex soudcard suffers from the issue. So i need to put here a soundcard, pcie or usb? This one is from office and its usb.

[zMeul]

1 minute ago, BukaSlyat said:

got home and none of headsets plugged into this sweex soudcard suffers from the issue. So i need to put here a soundcard, pcie or usb? This one is from office and its usb.

my guess is that the USB ones would be cheaper

check on-line, Amazon or whatever your poison is; as Creative and other sound card can get pretty expensive, even the basic models