upgrading my pc

[supremedutchgamer]

hi. i decided to upgrade my pc's GPU since it was having trouble (R7 240). the one i want to upgrade to is a GTX 750 TI MSI gaming. but i dont know if this will fit in my pc with the powersuply i have now. the pc i own at the moment is a prebuilt one but it doesnt have a warranty anymore so upgrading is not a problem. http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/435868/hp-pavilion-500-407nd/specificaties/ this is the best site i can find its specs at sadly. (its in dutch). i dont need any tips on upgrading anything to something else. i only need to know if the GTX 70 TI gaming graphics card from MSI will fit without the need of a new PSU. 

[Moonzy]

unless we know your psu model and wattage, we cant give you a definitive answer

 

but the r7 240 have a TDP of 30W and the 750Ti have a TDP of ~75W (iirc)

so its ~40W extra and in most cases its fine

[supremedutchgamer]

12 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

unless we know your psu model and wattage, we cant give you a definitive answer

 

but the r7 240 have a TDP of 30W and the 750Ti have a TDP of ~75W (iirc)

so its ~40W extra and in most cases its fine

i found a better link: http://support.hp.com/us-en/product/HP-Pavilion-500-400-Desktop-PC-series/7161732/model/7757469/document/c04576808/ maybe this will help? it just says external 180watt (100V-240V)

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, supremedutchgamer said:

i found a better link: http://support.hp.com/us-en/product/HP-Pavilion-500-400-Desktop-PC-series/7161732/model/7757469/document/c04576808/ maybe this will help? 

ooo... its a 180W psu... might be risking it a bit here tbh...

 

it says it uses an adapter and not a conventional ATX psu, is it true?

[supremedutchgamer]

4 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

ooo... its a 180W psu... might be risking it a bit here tbh...

 

it says it uses an adapter and not a conventional ATX psu, is it true?

i dont know. if you are saying it uses a brick outside of the case. no. but since i dont know what atx is. i went and looked it up. from what i understand its some intel thing. and my pc is 100% amd at the moment. so it could be true. 

[Moonzy]

Just now, supremedutchgamer said:

i dont know. if you are saying it uses a brick outside of the case. no. but since i dont know what atx is. i went and looked it up. from what i understand its some intel thing. and my pc is 100% amd at the moment. so it could be true. 

nono, you're right lol

Adapter = external power brick

ATX PSU = most desktop's power supply, ATX is just a standard

 

anyway is it possible if you take a picture of the label on the psu? i think the hp website is wrong since it says adapter `-`

or im just understanding adapter wrong

[supremedutchgamer]

3 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

nono, you're right lol

Adapter = external power brick

ATX PSU = most desktop's power supply, ATX is just a standard

 

anyway is it possible if you take a picture of the label on the psu? i think the hp website is wrong since it says adapter `-`

or im just understanding adapter wrong

i cant take a picture without messing with my phone for half an hour. and i realy want to buy the gpu today so i can upgrade tomorrow. but i can tell you the only thing wrong with the site is the external thing. the rest is all the same. 180 watts. 100 to 240 volts. and it is in fact internal.

[Moonzy]

Just now, supremedutchgamer said:

i cant take a picture without messing with my phone for half an hour. and i realy want to buy the gpu today so i can upgrade tomorrow. but i can tell you the only thing wrong with the site is the external thing. the rest is all the same. 180 watts. 100 to 240 volts. and it is in fact internal.

as you can see here (approximate build, wont be that far off)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LvYVt6

the recommended wattage of psu is more than 214 `-`

the website adds some overhead but its never good to go below this figure

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4C9s6h

this is your original configuration (approximately)

it's already consuming near 180W lol

 

so its best if you upgrade your psu before you upgrade your gpu `-`

[supremedutchgamer]

12 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

as you can see here (approximate build, wont be that far off)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LvYVt6

the recommended wattage of psu is more than 214 `-`

the website adds some overhead but its never good to go below this figure

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4C9s6h

this is your original configuration (approximately)

it's already consuming near 180W lol

 

so its best if you upgrade your psu before you upgrade your gpu `-`

ah.you used the evga card. that one uses way more power. thats why i went with the msi gaming one. which only uses 65watt's at full load. that might be the problem with your aproximation. still. pretty funny how they claimed "full upgradability" when i bought this. they shouldve said "if you want to upgrade anything. you must upgrade everything"

 

edit: on the site i want to buy them from. the evga card has 300 watts and the one i want to buy 65. (this measurement is under full load)

[Moonzy]

5 minutes ago, supremedutchgamer said:

 "full upgradability"

could also mean you have to upgrade fully, not partially  

[supremedutchgamer]

7 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

could also mean you have to upgrade fully, not partially  

well..... sheit. ill ask if i can try out if it works. if not. i can send it back. luckily they have great customer service. its going to be just fits or just doesnt. 

[Moonzy]

2 minutes ago, supremedutchgamer said:

well..... sheit. ill ask if i can try out if it works. if not. i can send it back. luckily they have great customer service. its going to be just fits or just doesnt. 

yeap, you do that lol

they know their desktop best

 

if they say 180W can power the 750Ti, either its true or they want you to buy a new computer after you killed your current psu lol

[supremedutchgamer]

3 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

yeap, you do that lol

they know their desktop best

 

if they say 180W can power the 750Ti, either its true or they want you to buy a new computer after you killed your current psu lol

well..... if i ask for a trial and they say its fine. and it kills my psu. they will replace it. but it doesnt logic to say 65watts doesnt work while 122 watt does.

[Moonzy]

2 minutes ago, supremedutchgamer said:

if i ask for a trial and they say its fine. and it kills my psu. they will replace it.

make sure you have a black and white of this, not just through a phone call or something

either e-mail or a letter with their company name