Skylake Build Gaming Issues

[aviationjames]

I have just upgraded my GPU from a GTX 660 2GB to the AMD R9 380 4GB. I am still having low frame rates and frame drops in most games, such as GTA V (40-20fps), STAR Wars, The Division.

I am using a 430W PSU, and it says recommended is 600W for this GPU - does this have any effect?

 

Here are my specs:

Intel i3 6100 @3.70GHz Dual Core - 4 Threads

MSI Gaming Z170 Pro

XFX 430W PSU

12GB DDR4 RAM

[K0MP4CT]

2 minutes ago, aviationjames said:

I have just upgraded my GPU from a GTX 660 2GB to the AMD R9 380 4GB. I am still having low frame rates and frame drops in most games, such as GTA V (40-20fps), STAR Wars, The Division.

I am using a 430W PSU, and it says recommended is 600W for this GPU - does this have any effect?

 

Here are my specs:

Intel i3 6100 @3.70GHz Dual Core - 4 Threads

MSI Gaming Z170 Pro

XFX 430W PSU

12GB DDR4 RAM

You answered your own issue, a 430W PSU is going to struggle with Nvidia cards let alone AMD. You'll want to upgrade it, especially if it's a cheap quality. 

However, the i3 isn't exactly amazing for gaming.

[aviationjames]

1 minute ago, K0MP4CT said:

You answered your own issue, a 430W PSU is going to struggle with Nvidia cards let alone AMD. You'll want to upgrade it, especially if it's a cheap quality. 

However, the i3 isn't exactly amazing for gaming.

Oh, so having this PSU is affecting my GPU? Really?

[Sakkura]

430W is sufficient for your build, the problem lies elsewhere. Maybe driver issues - try uninstalling the driver, use DDU to clean up driver remnants (also from the old Nvidia driver), then installing the AMD driver again.

[aviationjames]

1 minute ago, Sakkura said:

430W is sufficient for your build, the problem lies elsewhere. Maybe driver issues - try uninstalling the driver, use DDU to clean up driver remnants (also from the old Nvidia driver), then installing the AMD driver again.

Okay, I would not mind re-installing Windows, to make sure? Also, when my PC boots the POST screen is tiny, and so is the Windows logo (its in like a tiny box, wrong resolution) until I reach the log in screen.

 

Should I get a new PSU, I am currently using 2 Molex to 1 6 pin to power the GPU, aside from the other 6 pin connector I already have

[K0MP4CT]

Just now, Sakkura said:

430W is sufficient for your build, the problem lies elsewhere. Maybe driver issues - try uninstalling the driver, use DDU to clean up driver remnants (also from the old Nvidia driver), then installing the AMD driver again.

I really don't think it is. 430W isn't a lot for an AMD GPU (well that specific one anyway).

 

3 minutes ago, aviationjames said:

Oh, so having this PSU is affecting my GPU? Really?

Not having enough wattage can crash your system or simply not power your components to their full potential, meaning they can't reach certain speeds and hence lack performance.

[aviationjames]

Just now, K0MP4CT said:

I really don't think it is. 430W isn't a lot for an AMD GPU (well that specific one anyway).

 

Not having enough wattage can crash your system or simply not power your components to their full potential, meaning they can't reach certain speeds and hence lack performance.

Okay  Which PSU should I get, I am currently looking at this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CP-9020097-UK-VS550-Power-Supply/dp/B00TE4XSMA/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1459764378&sr=1-1&keywords=psu

[K0MP4CT]

1 minute ago, aviationjames said:

Okay, I would not mind re-installing Windows, to make sure? Also, when my PC boots the POST screen is tiny, and so is the Windows logo (its in like a tiny box, wrong resolution) until I reach the log in screen.

 

Should I get a new PSU, I am currently using 2 Molex to 1 6 pin to power the GPU, aside from the other 6 pin connector I already have

It's also worth trying that before spending money to upgrade, although I can't see it being the issue here.

[user328453]

7 minutes ago, aviationjames said:

I have just upgraded my GPU from a GTX 660 2GB to the AMD R9 380 4GB. I am still having low frame rates and frame drops in most games, such as GTA V (40-20fps), STAR Wars, The Division.

I am using a 430W PSU, and it says recommended is 600W for this GPU - does this have any effect?

 

Here are my specs:

Intel i3 6100 @3.70GHz Dual Core - 4 Threads

MSI Gaming Z170 Pro

XFX 430W PSU

12GB DDR4 RAM

You wasted money on the motherboard considering you aren't overclocking you wasted your money getting a Z150A chipset because your cup is not overclockable 

[aviationjames]

2 minutes ago, Jackster1249 said:

You wasted money on the motherboard considering you aren't overclocking you wasted your money getting a Z150A chipset because your cup is not overclockable 

I am considering of getting a 6700K by the end of the month, hopefully.

[K0MP4CT]

4 minutes ago, aviationjames said:

Okay  Which PSU should I get, I am currently looking at this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CP-9020097-UK-VS550-Power-Supply/dp/B00TE4XSMA/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1459764378&sr=1-1&keywords=psu

I'm not a fan of the Corsair ones and I've heard some bad things. This is a good option - https://www.scan.co.uk/products/550w-evga-supernova-gs-psu-fully-modular-80plus-gold-45a-single-rail-sli-crossfirex-support-whisper-

 

(You might get it cheaper from Amazon, I chose SCAN simply because they are a well trusted option).

 

Or if you want headroom to upgrade in the future (for example Crossfire) go for the 650W version.

[aviationjames]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Builder-Modular-Supply-Certified/dp/B00ALYOTTI/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1459764378&sr=1-5&keywords=psu

 

Is this PSU any good? 

[Castdeath97]

2 minutes ago, K0MP4CT said:

You answered your own issue, a 430W PSU is going to struggle with Nvidia cards let alone AMD. You'll want to upgrade it, especially if it's a cheap quality. 

However, the i3 isn't exactly amazing for gaming.

No a 430W power supply is enough for a 960 or a R9 380, especially if its from someone like xfx. Systems with both the 960 and R9 380 don't get over the 350W mark so there is no way a decent 430W PSU won't be able supply them enough power. 

 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, K0MP4CT said:

I really don't think it is. 430W isn't a lot for an AMD GPU (well that specific one anyway).

 

Not having enough wattage can crash your system or simply not power your components to their full potential, meaning they can't reach certain speeds and hence lack performance.

 

[Castdeath97]

2 minutes ago, aviationjames said:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Builder-Modular-Supply-Certified/dp/B00ALYOTTI/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1459764378&sr=1-5&keywords=psu

 

Is this PSU any good? 

No that's even worse than what you have, just stick with your PSU:

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/406160-psu-ranking-and-tiers/

[aviationjames]

Just now, Castdeath97 said:

No a 430W power supply is enough for a 960 or a R9 380, especially if its from someone like xfx. Systems with both the 960 and R9 380 don't get over the 350W mark so there is no way a decent 430W PSU won't be able supply them enough power. 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, was just about to get this: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/600w-evga-100-w1-0600-k3-80plus-atx-psu-single-plus12v-rail-120mm-quiet-fan

 

I have this GPU, it is from MSI: http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-R9-380-Gaming-Graphics/dp/B00ZPOBI0M?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00

[HKZeroFive]

8 minutes ago, K0MP4CT said:

I really don't think it is. 430W isn't a lot for an AMD GPU (well that specific one anyway).

 

Not having enough wattage can crash your system or simply not power your components to their full potential, meaning they can't reach certain speeds and hence lack performance.

If you think that a decent 430W PSU can't power a R9 380, you're wrong. Various benchmarks online prove that. Sure, some headroom would be better but the PSU isn't the problem.

[Castdeath97]

Just now, aviationjames said:

Okay, was just about to get this: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/600w-evga-100-w1-0600-k3-80plus-atx-psu-single-plus12v-rail-120mm-quiet-fan

 

I have this GPU, it is from MSI: http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-R9-380-Gaming-Graphics/dp/B00ZPOBI0M?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00

That's even much worse! Just stick with your PSU, your R9 380 is probably bottlenecked by the i3.

[K0MP4CT]

1 minute ago, HKZeroFive said:

If you think that a decent 430W PSU can't power a R9 380, you're wrong. Various benchmarks online prove that. Sure, some headroom would be better but the PSU isn't the problem.

 

3 minutes ago, Castdeath97 said:

No a 430W power supply is enough for a 960 or a R9 380, especially if its from someone like xfx. Systems with both the 960 and R9 380 don't get over the 350W mark so there is no way a decent 430W PSU won't be able supply them enough power. 

 

 

 

 

 

Whilst I have seen this video and other similar ones, looking at reviews for the 380 lots of people are saying that they've had trouble with PSUs under 500W. 430W might be able to power it but it's cutting it thin there, and I personally like headroom of 50-100W. 

 

Also, I did say myself that the i3 isn't a powerful chip for gaming and is also another cause for the low frame rates. 

[user328453]

9 minutes ago, aviationjames said:

I am considering of getting a 6700K by the end of the month, hopefully.

Ok that makes a bit more sense 

[Sakkura]

13 minutes ago, K0MP4CT said:

I really don't think it is. 430W isn't a lot for an AMD GPU (well that specific one anyway).

 

Not having enough wattage can crash your system or simply not power your components to their full potential, meaning they can't reach certain speeds and hence lack performance.

430W is sufficient for an R9 380 and a Core i3-6100. The GPU uses less than 200W at full load, and the CPU about 50W. That means you're pulling significantly less than 300W from the power supply at full load.

[user328453]

Also I would step up to at min a 550W PSU if your concerned about you machine

[Castdeath97]

4 minutes ago, K0MP4CT said:

 

Whilst I have seen this video and other similar ones, looking at reviews for the 380 lots of people are saying that they've had trouble with PSUs under 500W. 430W might be able to power it but it's cutting it thin there, and I personally like headroom of 50-100W. 

 

Also, I did say myself that the i3 isn't a powerful chip for gaming and is also another cause for the low frame rates. 

It isn't cutting it thin, that's 77% load (considering test systems used by hardwarecanucks have an i7 and he has an i3 that would be even less!) which would be fine in a decent PSU. And never trust user reviews, users tend to be naive and will throw bs most of the time, I wouldn't be surprised if they were using PSU of bad quality.

[K0MP4CT]

1 minute ago, Castdeath97 said:

It isn't cutting it thin, that's 77% load which would be fine in a decent PSU. And never trust user reviews, users tend to be naive and will throw bs most of the time, I wouldn't be surprised if they were using PSU of bad quality.

 

3 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

430W is sufficient for an R9 380 and a Core i3-6100. The GPU uses less than 200W at full load, and the CPU about 50W. That means you're pulling significantly less than 300W from the power supply at full load.

Okay, I see your points, personally I wouldn't want any less than a 500W PSU. Although, I am one to overclock.

 

However, we all agree that the i3 is a probable cause for the lack of performance?

[aviationjames]

2 minutes ago, Jackster1249 said:

Also I would step up to at min a 550W PSU if your concerned about you machine

 

2 minutes ago, Castdeath97 said:

It isn't cutting it thin, that's 77% load (considering test systems used by hardwarecanucks have an i7 and he has an i3 that would be even less!) which would be fine in a decent PSU. And never trust user reviews, users tend to be naive and will throw bs most of the time, I wouldn't be surprised if they were using PSU of bad quality.

Okay, I think I should get a PSU if I am going to be getting a new CPU. Which one should I get, under £60?

[K0MP4CT]

Just now, aviationjames said:

 

Okay, I think I should get a PSU if I am going to be getting a new CPU. Which one should I get, under £60?

If you're planning to overclock, I would get a 500W one (although 550W PSUs cost hardly anything extra for the 50W extra).